Is the cross today's version of the hakenkreuz?

[Aviation Pro]

Because I think it is.

Keep on identifying yourselves, MAGAts.

[Ocelot II]

1. When ostentatiously worn on a chain around the alabaster-white neck

of one of the Fascist Blonde Barbies, absolutely. When on a bumper sticker, possibly. When it's on a church it isn't, because that's where it belongs.

[Walleye]

2. Just had a funny thought, maybe we should all wear gold crosses around our necks

We would probably get arrested for impersonating a “Christian.”

[Ocelot II]

4. If Jesus had been executed by hanging, would the Barbies be wearing nooses?

[Celerity]

15. wearing nooses

The Monks - Oh, how to do now (1966)

The Monks, referred to by the name monks on record sleeves, were an American garage rock band formed in Gelnhausen, West Germany in 1964. Assembled by five American GIs stationed in the country, the group grew tired of the traditional format of rock, which motivated them to forge a highly experimental style characterized by an emphasis on hypnotic rhythms that minimized the role of melody, augmented by the use of sound manipulation techniques.

The band's unconventional blend of shrill vocals, feedback, and guitarist David Day's six-string banjo baffled audiences, but music historians have since identified the Monks as a pioneering force in avant-garde music. The band's lyrics often voiced objection to the Vietnam War and the dehumanized state of society, while prefiguring the harsh and blunt commentary of the punk rock movement of the 1970s and 1980s. The band's appearance was considered as shocking as its music, as they attempted to mimic the look of Catholic monks by wearing black habits with cinctures symbolically tied around their necks, and hair worn in partially shaved tonsures.

[Aviation Pro]

3. A lot of weak "men" are sporting it as well

Weak. Men.

[sop]

5. The ostentatious cross has replaced the ubiquitous flag pin as the symbol denoting rightwing fascist cult membership

[TommyT139]

6. Wow, bigoted generalization much?

On a site with faithful progressive Christians, you're equating the cross to a swastika?

[Wednesdays]

9. I'm a Christian

Church chorister for 33 years. I'm not offended by the assertion.

A lot of evil has been committed by people bearing the cross for centuries.

[sop]

11. "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

[TommyT139]

14. Exactly, that's why intelligent conversations are essential.

[TommyT139]

13. It doesn't matter if you are offended.

Sounds like you're not challenging a blanket assertion, which is fine if you personally agree with that. If you do, wow, sorry that's been your experience.

But if Democrats in large numbers are fine with this, it's a losing strategy, in the short term and in the long term. Abdicating entire domains of progressive values because of an inability to conduct respectful and nuanced discussions hasn't worked in the past -- for instance during the rise of fundamentalist power in the US; leaves lots of people outside the diversity of a democratic, progressive movement (LGBT people, but likely others, perhaps Black people who grew up in the church); and appears to provide evidence for the rightwing talking point that "Democrats hate Christianity."

[Irish_Dem]

16. The cross is being used as a weapon. And a symbol of hatred, racism, violence.

OP is making a legit point.

The facts are the facts whether we like them or not.

[TommyT139]

18. It's an ignorant globalization.

Christianity isn't a monolith.

Those of us progressive Christians who have always challenged the misuses of Christianity have already been targeted by the Trumpist regime. A notable example of that was the reaction to Bishop Budde's sermon. But others are putting themselves on the line, getting arrested and jailed for feeding homeless people, giving water to people crossing borders, and putting their bodies in between ICE agents and immigrants following the law.

Promoting the OP's stereotypes if Christianity, without having an actual intelligent conversation, sounds like evidence for the right-wing "Democrats hate Christianity" slur.

Note that this is very different than someone's personal experiences of the harm that they have felt from a conservative "Christian" upbringing. Those of us in the queer and trans communities are looking at the regime's legalizing and even funding "conversion therapy." I personally have had friends who were put through so-called exorcisms, re-education camps, and worse. Events I've run have been attended by fundies hoping to hijack the narrative (unsuccessfully).

Whether someone is a person of faith or not, it does not benefit the Democrats to shut out progressive Christians, sling slurs, and, frankly, lie by oversimplifying and stereotyping. That's a dynamic that is not specific to this board, but it's hard for me to think of a more clear example.

[marble falls]

7. Don't write us all off. Christians that is. Write off all all the MAGAs and Nazis regarless of the crosses they claim ..

... I do hold the LDS thought on the cross: there is no reason to wrap around a symbol of death, asking if Christ were executed today, would we be wearing syringes or little electric chairs, or rifles? So I don't wear one, but I don't fault anyone else who wears does. I do note it and watch to see it's jewelry/dog whistle or a commitment to being a christian. You know: feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, housing the homeless, educating the young in truthful and factual methods, comforting the imprisoned, treating others as we would be treated ourselves. Don't lock us up in one stripe.

[dalton99a]

8. They need to upsize

(Win McNamee/Getty Images)

[Blue Full Moon]

10. Absolutely but the real symbol for Christianity

Is Visica Pieces the fish. If someone would have shown a cross to early Christians they would have recoiled in horror of the symbol death. According to Jesus there is only one commandment that you love one another. Followers will be known by the love they have for one another.
Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, & I will give you a heart of flesh.
2 Corinthians 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not in ink but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in the fleshy tables of the heart.

[DavidDvorkin]

12. The cross was a symbol of hatred and brutality long before Hitler was born

Christians don't see it that way, but non-Christians have long had a different view.

[Buns_of_Fire]

17. It makes me wonder what Jesus might think,

returning to a place where people wear symbols of His suffering and death as amulets of their faith.