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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMore than 1500 detainees are missing after the closure of Alligator Alcatraz.
More than 1800 detainees are missing after the closure of Alligator Alcatraz. Their families and lawyers canât find them and theyâve vanished from the ICE database. Feels like this should be a much bigger story www.miamiherald.com/news/local/i...
— Laura Bassett (@lebassett.bsky.social) 2025-09-23T17:39:33.074Z

tblue37
(67,057 posts)where it could possibly be?
regnaD kciN
(27,307 posts)Who needs crematoria when youve got alligators?
maveric
(16,940 posts)kimbutgar
(26,136 posts)I wouldnt put it past them.
B.See
(6,780 posts)On top of all the other "should've been bigger stories" relating to Trump's immigration scandals and his ICE gestapo-like actions.
Families, lawyers can't find them? Disappeared from ICE database?? Whatever can it mean?
Smells like straight up NAZI shit to me.
Bernardo de La Paz
(58,842 posts)some_of_us_are_sane
(2,139 posts)
struggle4progress
(124,650 posts)Greg_In_SF
(606 posts)is not closed. Second, they didn't vanish from the ICE database. They were never in the database because Alligator Alcatraz is a State run facility.
tblue37
(67,057 posts)LymphocyteLover
(8,804 posts)Greg_In_SF
(606 posts)the Florida Division of Emergency Management. The detainees at Alligator Alcatraz are not in the custody of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, hence the absence of their names in the federal database.
Marthe48
(21,932 posts)Is there any public record of the people who were sent to that place by i.c.e ? Or any of the other detainment camps?
Why can't their families and lawyers get in touch with 1800 people?
Greg_In_SF
(606 posts)if ICE arrests someone and then sends them to a State run facility. I would assume the State has records, but don't really know.
spanone
(140,275 posts)LymphocyteLover
(8,804 posts)Johnny2X2X
(23,439 posts)Either these people are dead. Or the numbers were inflated in order to make money.
Bettie
(18,905 posts)as slaves and don't want any records.
Who the fuck knows what the monsters in charge of this would to do people.
B.See
(6,780 posts)he can disappear the rest of us as well.
Alligator Alcatraz Is an Extrajudicial Black Site, Immigrant Advocates Say as Detainees Disappear - Common Dreams
Reporters found that around 800 of the people on the rosters do not appear on Immigration and Customs Enforcements (ICE) Online Detainee Locator System, which provides publicly available information about the court status and locations of people who have been jailed by immigration enforcement. Another 450 had no location listed and instead merely instructed users to Call ICE for details.
The Herald also found that the vast majority of the detainees in the system did not have final orders of removal issued against them by immigration judges, which would be required for their deportation. Nevertheless, the detainees families and attorneys have been left unable to find them.
Champp
(2,159 posts)why do Republicans hate and disrespect the teachings of Christ?
This is outright evil.
B.See
(6,780 posts)At what point, I wonder, does something like this garner appropriate outrage? Picked up, abducted, then disappeared?
At what point do we begin mentioning words like criminal, 'atrocity,' and such?
When 2000 disappear? Five thousand? 10? 20? 40? a million? or more?
Conversely, Is the loss of any ONE, if incarcerated and spirited away under dubious if not devious means, of lesser importance, especially to their wives, children, family members,
than the loss of another? Do they not also mourn?