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Several international activists deported from Israel after joining a Gaza aid flotilla have accused Israeli forces of mistreating climate campaigner Greta Thunberg.
The 137 deportees landed in Istanbul on Saturday, including 36 Turkish nationals alongside activists from the United States, Italy, Malaysia, Kuwait, Switzerland, Tunisia, Libya, Jordan and other countries, Turkish officials confirmed.
Turkish journalist and Gaza Sumud Flotilla participant Ersin Celik told local media outlets he witnessed Israeli forces torture Greta Thunberg, describing how she was dragged on the ground and forced to kiss the Israeli flag.
Malaysian activist Hazwani Helmi and American participant Windfield Beaver gave similar accounts at Istanbul Airport, alleging Thunberg was shoved and paraded with an Israeli flag.
It was a disaster. They treated us like animals, Helmi said, adding that detainees were denied food, clean water, and medication.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/4/greta-thunberg-mistreated-by-israeli-forces-in-detention-activists-say
I have seen no reports of this in American MSM. Naturally. They're all kissing up to Shitler, Bibi, and AIPAC

elleng
(141,091 posts)


BlueTsunami2018
(4,678 posts)Ill buy the poor conditions in a cell but dragging her by the hair and forcing her to kiss a flag just sets off my bullshit detector.
Shes got a very high profile and as insane as it might sound considering theres an open genocide going on, I think it would be considered a bad PR move to abuse her like that.
Of course, its not out of the realm of possibility with their track record of human abuses but it seems very unlikely to me that theyd do that to her.
Im sure well hear what she has to say once shes released.
Blues Heron
(7,796 posts)
BlueTsunami2018
(4,678 posts)I dont know that I can be any more clear.
I want to hear what she has to say.
stopdiggin
(14,497 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 6, 2025, 12:10 AM - Edit history (1)
I'm willing to be proved wrong (with adequately and straightforward documentation). But the, " how very convenient", BS meter sprang to life with some alacrity ...
Jilly_in_VA
(13,274 posts)so be careful there.
stopdiggin
(14,497 posts)Like I said, willing to change my mind given something really solid or persuasive. (and, yes, given the reliability of partisan 'testimony' in this conflict - that would lean toward video - that additionally hasn't been sliced, diced, and 'curated'. )
Jilly_in_VA
(13,274 posts)I believe them. The IDF is out of control. Anyone who shoots babies or people just trying to get food.....well, you get my drift. If you choose not to believe it, that's you.
stopdiggin
(14,497 posts)(about both ICE and IDF for instance) - without going for every story that crosses my path. And I think the record will bear that out as a reasoned response .... Misinformation abounds - as do the proponents with absolutely no qualms ...
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EX500rider
(12,038 posts)stopdiggin
(14,497 posts)(and conflicting accounts)
And - to date - Greta's accounts themselves have mentioned things like bugs - medications ....
"We were tortured!" - - "There were bedbugs!"
Yeah, OK ....
EX500rider
(12,038 posts)"They made me sit on hard surfaces!"
And apparently there wasn't a mini fridge in her detention cell
EX500rider
(12,038 posts)She was dragged by her hair and made to kiss the Israeli flag! sure dude
Rob H.
(5,729 posts)in an Israeli military prison, and you think its unlikely Israelis would drag Greta by her hair and make her kiss their flag? Come on.
Bettie
(18,959 posts)They have not silenced her yet. I fear for her safety along with the other prisoners.
There is no mechanism for consequences for anything the IDF or Israeli government does to
This is not hard to believe if we look at recent actions by Netanyahus government/military.
haele
(14,724 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:40 AM - Edit history (1)
There's always an "If" when dealing with the various political forces in the middle east.
We aren't dealing EU or Canada.
None of the countries or groups there except perhaps Jordan have clean hands when it comes to political prisoners. And I question even Jordan sometimes.
Edit. Typing too fast on the phone, "East" didn't make it.
Klarkashton
(4,314 posts)PufPuf23
(9,619 posts)Like Windfield Beaver, I also live near Orleans in far eastern Humboldt, a village of less than 1000 people. But I have never done an act remotely as courageous, timely nor moral as Beaver.
Do not know Beaver but found at senior meals yesterday where he lives. Many nooks and crannies in the mountains.
Have utmost respect for Beaver. Windfield has put his own safety on the line. That takes more than being a keyboard warrior excusing genocide and murder of innocents.
From Redhead Blackbelt; there are photos, a map text messages and local comments at the link
Abducted in International Waters: North Coast Native Sailing to Gaza on Veterans Flotilla is Intercepted
Thursday, 2 October 2025, 3:55 pm Ryan Hutson 44 comments
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Among the group of over 40 civilian vessels carrying more than 500 people from different nations, The Global Sumud Flotilla (GSF) has confirmed the ship Ohwayla was intercepted in international waters as it approached Gazas territorial seas, in the early hours of October 2, in the Mediterranean sea. As it was heading toward Gazas waters near the front of the flotilla group, the vessel lost connection with the tracking team late in the evening, as Windfield Wind Beaver sent messages to family and friends via Signal, before ultimately going into security protocol in anticipation of the Ohwayla being boarded and seized.
In his official pre-recorded SOS transmission posted to the GSF website, Windfield Beaver tells the public, if you are watching this video, I have been kidnapped by the Israeli occupation forces and taken against my will. Tell my government to end its complicity with Israel and to bring me home. Stop the genocide.
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We spoke with Windfield Beavers brother, Ben Beaver, who explained that his brother, Windfield, grew up in Forks of Salmon and later made a home in the eastern remote part of Humboldt County, in the enclave of Orleans, where he has lived for 20 years. Feeling compelled to offer his services as a mechanic to the GSF, Beaver was added to the crew of the Ohwayla better known as the Veterans boat which has made news in recent weeks featuring interviews from US Veteran Gregg Stoker.
Winds brother, Ben Beaver, explained by phone that family and friends understood Winds convictions and moral compass on the issue, and were all in to support him once he had announced his intent to sail with the GSF. His brother told us, These people, these hundreds of people on this Flotilla
knew theyre risking their lives, and theyre like, no but this is a cause that were willing to fight for, he said, illustrating the groups tenacity in the face of what they recognized as near-impossible objective.
Not knowing where his brother is being held, in what conditions, or when he may get news of Winds safety he added, Many of us wait our entire lives to find a purpose or find something to fight for. These are moral warriors who understand what it means to stand up for human rights.
According to Ben Beaver and confirmed by media representatives from the GSF, Windfield Beavers last messages to a Signal group chat showed that he was aware of the risks as the Israeli military began circling vessels, applying pressure tactics like spraying vessels with what was described by some crews as sulfur water, flying drones overhead, and using frequency jamming technology to frustrate radio communications between vessels.
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https://kymkemp.com/2025/10/02/abducted-in-international-waters-north-coast-native-sailing-to-gaza-on-veterans-flotilla-is-intercepted/
GreenWave
(11,781 posts)Mossfern
(4,438 posts)How stupid and arrogant can these Israelis be?
I'm not particularly a fan of Greta, but this treatment of her and her compatriots is beyond outrageous and is a shonda, for sure.
Ping Tung
(3,859 posts)She and her comrades (Insert Red scare here) are a danger to arms manufacturers and other patriots.
EX500rider
(12,038 posts)She complained about bugs & hard surfaces.