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bronxiteforever

(10,883 posts)
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:21 PM Oct 11

'ICE Kidnapping' Signs Are Popping Up Around D.C. --And the White House Is Freaking Out

The Manhattan Times
SAT OCT 11 2025
Washington, D.C. residents say they’ve seen enough — and they’re taking matters into their own hands.
A new grassroots movement is sweeping the capital, marking locations where Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents have allegedly detained undocumented people. The signs, posted on telephone poles and fences, are direct and defiant: “ICE ABDUCTED SOMEONE HERE,” followed by a date, time, and a plea for others to share what they’ve witnessed.

…Presidential spokesperson Abigail Jackson blasted the signs in an email to The Washington Post, calling them “untrue smears” and insisting that “ICE does not ‘kidnap’ anyone.”

But that hasn’t stopped residents from putting up more. Barbara McCann, one of the campaign’s organizers, said the movement was born from firsthand experience, not political spin. “They are targeting people who can’t defend themselves — the homeless, the undocumented,” McCann said. “When there’s been great injustice, moral clarity takes a long time.”

She described watching ICE agents detain two men from a car near her home — a moment she said “shook” her and inspired her to act. Now, she’s one of dozens across the city documenting ICE activity in real time.

More here
https://mhtntimes.com/articles/ice-kidnapping-signs-are-popping-up-around-d-c

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'ICE Kidnapping' Signs Are Popping Up Around D.C. --And the White House Is Freaking Out (Original Post) bronxiteforever Oct 11 OP
no warrant, no probable cause DBoon Oct 11 #1
Taken by groups of armed, masked and unidentified men, then spirited away in unmarked unofficial vehicles. sop Oct 11 #9
And many are legal brakester Oct 11 #28
When the government kidnaps people off the street Captain Zero Oct 11 #53
Unfortunately warrant not required EX500rider Oct 11 #10
Reasonable suspicion: They looked at me wrong, or were filming me, or were in my way, or were a bystander. BWdem4life Oct 11 #15
or they had brown skin and spoke with a Spanish accent... nt mitch96 Oct 11 #36
Unfortunately, their reasonable suspicion is the color of their skin ... aggiesal Oct 11 #16
How are the political winds blowing there? Lucky Luciano Oct 11 #18
This is a very blue city for a long time. ... aggiesal Oct 11 #26
Ugh. Religion is the death of humanity. Lucky Luciano Oct 11 #40
At this point, I'd almost agree with you. slightlv Oct 11 #47
I'm Latino as well. sdfernando Oct 11 #20
Are you a US citizen? Get a Passport or ... aggiesal Oct 11 #24
I am a U.S. citizen and have been my entire life since the day I was born. sdfernando Oct 11 #34
I agree. That's why I carry my Passport Card ... aggiesal Oct 11 #39
If they come to your home, they need a judicial warrant. brakester Oct 11 #31
If they come to my home for anything other than directions, I'll have them arrested. DFW Oct 12 #61
And, the Neo Nazis Always LIE. nt Cha Oct 11 #22
As well as no public records of where these "detainees" are being taken IbogaProject Oct 11 #35
Good trouble!!! Nittersing Oct 11 #2
We should be putting missing signs everywhere newdeal2 Oct 11 #3
they say it's a crisis Be Leave On Oct 11 #8
Unfortunately, they are shameless. AZ8theist Oct 11 #44
DURec leftstreet Oct 11 #4
Kick SheltieLover Oct 11 #5
ICE(holes) do not kidnap anyone? Justice matters. Oct 11 #6
Jeffries should call every Democrat in Congress back to Washington and avebury Oct 11 #33
He is doing that. Qutzupalotl Oct 11 #37
Great idea Wild blueberry Oct 11 #7
These should be posted everywhere... sop Oct 11 #11
Good irisblue Oct 11 #12
ICE says that these stories of kidnappings are all lies and have led to assaults against ICE thugs RVN VET71 Oct 11 #13
In all the videos I have seen, I have never seen ICE assaulted even once. travelingthrulife Oct 11 #19
A "1000% increase" is a Disaffected Oct 11 #21
Yep, math was always my enemy in school RVN VET71 Oct 11 #58
S'OK, at least you didn't say Disaffected Oct 12 #60
Trump should be more careful about revealing his stupidity to the world RVN VET71 Oct 12 #63
Agreed and well said. nt Disaffected Oct 12 #64
Thanks RVN VET71 Oct 15 #65
Not only that, but PROVE to us they actually are ICE agents! slightlv Oct 11 #48
they define assault as photographing them or requesting a warrant or police ID DBoon Oct 11 #56
👍👍 TommieMommy Oct 11 #14
Awesome! n/t Ms. Toad Oct 11 #17
Yessss SuzyandPuffpuff Oct 11 #23
Here's yer sign. twodogsbarking Oct 11 #25
Outstanding action by D.C. residents. Keep up the good work. (nt) Paladin Oct 11 #27
Note to Abigail Jackson claiming that ICE does not avebury Oct 11 #29
They should use "kidnapped," not "abducted." tblue37 Oct 11 #30
Excellent idea!! n/t brakester Oct 11 #32
We Might needs something like the Nurenberg Trials for ICE AGENTS YoshidaYui Oct 11 #38
Yes, our form of the Nuremburg trials... slightlv Oct 11 #49
Is there an organization that collects the names of missing people Marthe48 Oct 11 #41
Do ya'll remrember the MIA/POW flags from a few years back? slightlv Oct 11 #50
Good ideas Marthe48 Oct 11 #52
Asymmetrical Resistance & brilliant! Hekate Oct 11 #42
Well one, DC'rs! electric_blue68 Oct 11 #43
Kidnapping is a good description, but HUMAN TRAFFICKING sounds classier. BurnDoubt Oct 11 #45
And I can't help but feel everything about this shrieks of human trafficking! slightlv Oct 11 #51
As we move closer and closer to the Final Solution. NBachers Oct 11 #46
Good, fuck this White House and the worst president ever! Initech Oct 11 #54
Ice doesn't kidnap yeah right. These fucking evil people they are EVERYWHERE Blues Heron Oct 11 #55
Thank you, Abigail. Buns_of_Fire Oct 11 #57
Don't wanna be called a NAZI? Then Don't ACT Like a Nazi! Jack Valentino Oct 11 #59
K & R SunSeeker Oct 12 #62

sop

(16,672 posts)
9. Taken by groups of armed, masked and unidentified men, then spirited away in unmarked unofficial vehicles.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:58 PM
Oct 11

brakester

(495 posts)
28. And many are legal
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 02:49 PM
Oct 11

immigrants who are showing up at their court dates and meetings.

App. 71% have no criminal record.

This is a travesty!

I remember talking to a legal immigrant while I was out canvassing for the Democrats last year. She is married to an American and both swore if twerp was elected she was not worried. I think about her a lot...

Captain Zero

(8,585 posts)
53. When the government kidnaps people off the street
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:10 PM
Oct 11

That is State Terrorism just like Nazi Germany.

EX500rider

(12,082 posts)
10. Unfortunately warrant not required
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:59 PM
Oct 11
No, ICE officers do not need a warrant to make an arrest for immigration violations, as they are authorized by the Immigration and Nationality Act to make warrantless arrests if they have reasonable suspicion to believe a person is in the U.S. illegally and poses a flight risk.

BWdem4life

(2,827 posts)
15. Reasonable suspicion: They looked at me wrong, or were filming me, or were in my way, or were a bystander.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 01:41 PM
Oct 11

aggiesal

(10,458 posts)
16. Unfortunately, their reasonable suspicion is the color of their skin ...
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 01:46 PM
Oct 11

which violates everyone's civil rights.

Being Latino, I now have to carry my Passport card to prove I'm a US citizen. How many here have to do this?
Living only 7 miles from the Mexican border, in a city with an estimate 50% population of undocumented immigrants, I have to live thinking about being pulled over every day.

Lucky Luciano

(11,784 posts)
18. How are the political winds blowing there?
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 02:01 PM
Oct 11

A lot of the highly Latino Texas border counties swung very hard towards trump the last cycle or two. Any regrets? Are they likely to regain their senses and swing back to the Democrats and democratic norms in general?

aggiesal

(10,458 posts)
26. This is a very blue city for a long time. ...
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 02:38 PM
Oct 11

The reason Texas border area are voting (R), is that conservatives are buying radio stations along the border but also throughout the state in Hispanic heavy areas, and converting them into Spanish Christian/Conservative format. So I'm hearing Latinos now using the same talking points that Conservative Christians use.
This will be a big problem in future elections.

slightlv

(6,959 posts)
47. At this point, I'd almost agree with you.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:54 PM
Oct 11

"Religion" is just man's power and control over others. It's a rigid set of rules with no reasons except "god said" spoken by the man who wants to control you.

Christians, I think, are going to be in for a really rude awakening when the pendulum swings. While we won't forget the progressive churches who were there doing the "red letter" work (we're not like magas, after all), we also won't forget the evangelicals and the NAR and the 7 Mountains movement and Dominionism and Charismatics, and the Proft and prophecy churches. IOW, the charlatans. They may actually find out what it means to be the persecuted people they always claim they are now. And I, for one, say so mote it be that love will be returned by love, and justice to hatred.

I have no use for religion. I see it now, and have for a long time seen it as a phony construct made by kings and dictators and wannabe's for their own wealth and power. REAL people who are spiritual... whether or not they're associated with any church, have morals and ethics that go far beyond those dictator's rules. And you don't have to be religious or spiritual to have moral and ethics. You just have to be human to be humane.

sdfernando

(5,957 posts)
20. I'm Latino as well.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 02:05 PM
Oct 11

I live in San Diego and am very wary traveling about. I do have a passport but I was born in Munich and I think that would be enough for them to take me. I'm currently working on leaving the country for good

aggiesal

(10,458 posts)
24. Are you a US citizen? Get a Passport or ...
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 02:30 PM
Oct 11

a Passport Card, which is the same size as a California Drivers License.
Protect yourself as much as possible.

SCOTUS has ruled that it's illegal to discriminate based on race when it pertains to College admissions,
but it's perfectly LEGAL to discriminate based on race when it pertains to immigration.

Colleges admissions affected white race negatively, by not being selected roll for admissions, so we have to get rid of that.
While immigration doesn't affect white race because they don't have dark skin, so it's perfectly fine to discriminate.

I'm sorry I don't mean to appear like a racist, but SCOTUS 6-Pack, put all of us in this situation.

sdfernando

(5,957 posts)
34. I am a U.S. citizen and have been my entire life since the day I was born.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 03:50 PM
Oct 11

But I was born in Munich Germany on foreign soil. I have a U.S. passport and a "Certificate of Foreign Birth" from the State Department....but, lets be honest here...none of that would preclude them from snatching me up and it could take weeks to be released (if not disappeared) from one of those hell hole Concentration Camps!

aggiesal

(10,458 posts)
39. I agree. That's why I carry my Passport Card ...
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 05:34 PM
Oct 11

I never used to carry it, but I do now.

Get a Passport Card!

brakester

(495 posts)
31. If they come to your home, they need a judicial warrant.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 03:04 PM
Oct 11

AI Overview Google

Yes, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) needs a warrant signed by a judge to enter your home, unless you give them consent or they have probable cause for a criminal arrest. You have the right to not open the door or let them in without a valid judicial warrant. An administrative warrant signed by an ICE official is not enough to enter your home.

Your rights if ICE comes to your door
Do not open the door:

You are not obligated to let them in unless they have a judicial warrant.

Ask for identification and a warrant: Ask the officers to show you their credentials and a warrant through a window or peephole. The warrant must be signed by a judge and must list your correct address and name.

Do not consent: Opening your door can be seen as giving consent for them to enter and search. If they do not have a warrant, simply state, "I do not consent to your entry" and keep the door closed.

Do not lie or sign documents: Do not lie or produce false documents, and do not sign anything without speaking to a lawyer first.

If they force their way in: Do not resist, and do not open the door to avoid a confrontation.

DFW

(59,251 posts)
61. If they come to my home for anything other than directions, I'll have them arrested.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 02:19 AM
Oct 12

I live in Germany. German weapons laws clearly state that if you are armed with a firearm while committing a crime, there is a mandatory five year jail sentence. It’s one of the harshest laws on the books here.

They wouldn’t make it that far, though. If German cops see a vehicle without license plates, they’ll be pulled over immediately. If they say “ICE!” well, in German (written “Eis” but pronounced the same), that usually (though not always, depending on context) means “ice cream,” so the German cops, while slapping on the cuffs, might ask, “what flavor?”

IbogaProject

(5,294 posts)
35. As well as no public records of where these "detainees" are being taken
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 04:03 PM
Oct 11

That fits the parts to indite for kidnapping to a T.

AZ8theist

(6,946 posts)
44. Unfortunately, they are shameless.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 06:28 PM
Oct 11

No doubt these assholes get erections while gleefully doing this shit....

Justice matters.

(9,047 posts)
6. ICE(holes) do not kidnap anyone?
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:52 PM
Oct 11

Pedofelon's spokeperson should be emailed THAT clip:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220713389

And ALL the repukes in Congress (out on paid vacation...).

avebury

(11,171 posts)
33. Jeffries should call every Democrat in Congress back to Washington and
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 03:11 PM
Oct 11

have them on the floor of the House every day. We are here to do the business of the people while the Republicans are perpetually on vacation. They should then be focused on round the clock reporting on what is going on with ICE and with the Federal Government. If the Republicans refuse to return to Washington and do their jobs that gives the Democrats the ability to become the biggest thorn in their side. Schummer could do the same thing with the Senate.

See if they can get well known Democrats not currently in office to go to the affected states to document and speak out on what is happening. Maybe see if they can find some well known, respecter International figures to work the sites acting as the eyes of the world. Former Intelligence experts should be called upon to see how the ICE "Agents" can be identified.

I think with a lot of thinking outside of the box there are ways for Democrats (as a whole) to fight back. There are some that are awesome in their fearlessness but there needs to be more.

Qutzupalotl

(15,583 posts)
37. He is doing that.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 05:02 PM
Oct 11

Jeffries called congressional Democrats to come back into the Capitol on Tuesday, despite the Republican vacation.

RVN VET71

(3,089 posts)
13. ICE says that these stories of kidnappings are all lies and have led to assaults against ICE thugs
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 01:10 PM
Oct 11

A 1000% increase in assaults against ICE thugs, to be exact.

In what world is this even slightly in evidence. 1000% would suggest , let me see if I can do the math, at least 1000 violent assaults on kevlar wearing, heavily armed, masked and uniformed street thugs in Washington D.C.? I must have missed that when it was reported on the news.

RVN VET71

(3,089 posts)
58. Yep, math was always my enemy in school
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:31 PM
Oct 11

So, I guess that means that if there had ever been one case of assault against the Kevlar Cowards of Kristi Noem, and there was then a 1,000% increase in such assaults, that translates to 10 assaults, not 1,000. I guess I'd better stick to doodling morbidly obese 78 year old men with orange faces and keeping the doodles private.

Disaffected

(5,964 posts)
60. S'OK, at least you didn't say
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 01:36 AM
Oct 12

something decreased by 1,000% like the morbidly obese 78 year old man of whom you doodle sez.

RVN VET71

(3,089 posts)
63. Trump should be more careful about revealing his stupidity to the world
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:34 PM
Oct 12

The thing that galls me about him is that his followers discount his faux pas -- or are just too stupid themselves to understand them. That's why they think the rest of world gazes upon his rotting rotundity with awa and admiration. They seem unable or unwilling to hear the laughter coming from the Capitols of Europe and, come to think of it, every other Country in the world.

RVN VET71

(3,089 posts)
65. Thanks
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 03:16 PM
Oct 15

I hope I live to be 100 so I can tell subsequent generations about the time when 77,000,000 Americans supported, cheered for, and voted for a convicted felon and child rapist because they didn't want a Black woman to become president. And how that despicable and willful ignorance led to the end of the Old Republic.

That's the story I'll relate to my great grandchildren. To my grandchildren, I'll provide more detail -- because they sure as hell won't be taught the truth in the State approved and monitored schools, nor will they easily find history books that provide the real skinny on how America killed itself. To my children, old men and women themselves by then, I'll just pass the whiskey jug and put another log on the fire in our family encampment in Yellow Knife, Canada.

slightlv

(6,959 posts)
48. Not only that, but PROVE to us they actually are ICE agents!
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:57 PM
Oct 11

With masks and all info hidden on them, they're just stupid vile Proud Boys and militia traitors harming and kidnapping people. Prove me wrong!

DBoon

(24,444 posts)
56. they define assault as photographing them or requesting a warrant or police ID
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:57 PM
Oct 11

Anything that in the slightest way challenges their authority is an "assault"

avebury

(11,171 posts)
29. Note to Abigail Jackson claiming that ICE does not
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 02:56 PM
Oct 11

kidnap anyone - I doubt that the Journalist and Innocent female driver who was dragged out of her car at gunpoint would agree with that claim.

YoshidaYui

(44,658 posts)
38. We Might needs something like the Nurenberg Trials for ICE AGENTS
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 05:08 PM
Oct 11

WHO ARE NO BETTER THEN the NAZIs of World War II

slightlv

(6,959 posts)
49. Yes, our form of the Nuremburg trials...
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:01 PM
Oct 11

right after we do a REAL Truth and Reconciliation Court! Without these, there can be no "moving on." I'm sorry Obama, Ford, and all the others who excused republican traitors by saying we should take the high ground, move on to move forward, etc., etc., ad infinitum. NOT this time. Too much was done and never touched during his first go-round. We're going to have to demand justice this time. No more turning the other cheek and letting them do it all over again in 8-10 years down the road.

Marthe48

(22,183 posts)
41. Is there an organization that collects the names of missing people
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 05:54 PM
Oct 11

that families or loved ones think that i.c.e. thugs kidnapped?

slightlv

(6,959 posts)
50. Do ya'll remrember the MIA/POW flags from a few years back?
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:02 PM
Oct 11

Even in places the individuals weren't from, flags with their faces and their "missing" information flew in cities all over the U.S. I would like to see this kind of trend start happening with ICE abductees.... and put the faces of the kids who've been kidnapped on milk cartons, as well.

Marthe48

(22,183 posts)
52. Good ideas
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:09 PM
Oct 11

I hope that more than regional efforts are already underway.

I can't pick words about how I feel.

BurnDoubt

(1,181 posts)
45. Kidnapping is a good description, but HUMAN TRAFFICKING sounds classier.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:06 PM
Oct 11

Keep it Classy. Write it in GOLD!

slightlv

(6,959 posts)
51. And I can't help but feel everything about this shrieks of human trafficking!
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:04 PM
Oct 11

Especially paying countries to take "x" number of people for who knows what to end up who knows where?! Do they think we're really THAT stupid? These are human traffickers... child sex traffickers... we're talking about, after all.

Blues Heron

(7,949 posts)
55. Ice doesn't kidnap yeah right. These fucking evil people they are EVERYWHERE
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:41 PM
Oct 11

How is this nation so utterly demented?

Buns_of_Fire

(18,878 posts)
57. Thank you, Abigail.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:28 PM
Oct 11

Now that I know that the term "kidnapping" upsets the WH, I know EXACTLY what term to use from now on.

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