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no_hypocrisy

(53,575 posts)
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 06:26 AM Oct 14

How can TSF's "Peace Plan" possibly hold up?

Maybe HAMAS will cooperate, but . . . .

how about Israel-backed militia groups and settlors who intend to finish annexing The West Bank and Gaza? That smacks of conflict and war.

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Callie1979

(977 posts)
1. Hamas is already killing other Palestinians. Thats what they do. They'll never stop
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 06:31 AM
Oct 14

Other cults/gangs/organizations whatever you want to call them are now being targeted by what's left of Hamas; scared to lose their leadership power
The ONLY way this works is if Arab countries flood the area with THEIR troops; who speak the language, know the traditions, the way of life, etc. And it will be up to THEM to keep the peace by FORCE. Because FORCE is the only thing Hamas & their ilk understand.

Callie1979

(977 posts)
13. I believe its supposed to be part of the current plan. But no one has committed yet
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:26 AM
Oct 14

That needs to happen & quickly.

hlthe2b

(111,897 posts)
2. Even putting my intense disdain for TSF aside, I think this is at least 90% smoke and mirrors...
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 06:34 AM
Oct 14

That the remaining hostages were released is tremendous. I'm very pleased, but now I see everything moving BEHIND the SCENES to ensure the remaining Gaza civilian population is permanently displaced--allowing the intent Trump, Jared, and former PM Tony Blair had been cooking up all along, dating back more than a decade it would appear. Seriously, does anyone remember the FIRST time Trump commented on the beauty of Gaza's shoreline and what a tremendous development opportunity it would afford?

So, now under the" beautiful, bright clouds" of MSM reporting here and in Israel- covering nothing but this success (sans much if any discussion of what happens or what is likely to happen next), my cynicism rises to the top unobscured. Good for the hostage families. Likely horrific for the people of Gaza and their continued suffering.

malaise

(290,523 posts)
3. There is no peace plan
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 06:39 AM
Oct 14

Paraphrasing the idiot…and some people want one state, some people want two states - this is about rebuilding Gaza. Do you want more deaths.
He does not know the difference between a cease fire and a peace plan.
I will never understand why people take this unserious ignorant vulgarian seriously.

Johonny

(24,932 posts)
10. Exactly Trump lives for the moment
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 09:24 AM
Oct 14

His whole presidency is creating reality TV moments to move today to tomorrow. At some point the whole mountain of unmanaged bullshit will collapse . . .

sop

(16,638 posts)
5. No matter what happens Trump will never acknowledge his "Peace Plan" isn't working.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 07:42 AM
Oct 14

In his diseased brain Portland and Chicago are war ravaged hellscapes, but Gaza will forever be a place of brotherly love now that Trump the Peacemaker fixed things.

Vinca

(52,925 posts)
6. I don't think there is one. Trump was after a photo op for getting 20 hostages out. While that is certainly laudable,
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 08:03 AM
Oct 14

it seems to have been forgotten that during Biden's term 7 times that number were released. Hamas has now put itself back in charge of Gaza again and has already started executing people. So, it's all back to square one only worse since buildings and infrastructure are gone.

FBaggins

(28,527 posts)
9. IF it works/lasts...
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 08:36 AM
Oct 14

… it isn’t really the Gaza ceasefire agreement doing it. It’s that multiple Arab countries say that they’re backing the plan.

I suspect that Israel knows this and that they won’t continue to back it if they try to expand beyond what they currently control

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