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AloeVera

(3,884 posts)
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 04:54 PM Oct 14

Israel cuts agreed aid into Gaza over slow release of hostage bodies

GENEVA/UNITED NATIONS, Oct 14 (Reuters) - Israel will only allow half the agreed number of aid trucks into Gaza starting Wednesday, according to a note seen by Reuters and confirmed by the United Nations, in a setback to hopes food and supplies would be quickly ramped up to ease famine in the enclave.

COGAT, the Israeli military arm that oversees aid flows into Gaza, also notified the U.N. that no fuel or gas will be allowed into the enclave except for specific needs related to humanitarian infrastructure. COGAT did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

COGAT blamed Hamas for a slow release of hostage bodies for the decision to limit aid trucks to 300 daily. The Islamist militant group has said locating the bodies is difficult.

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COGAT blamed Hamas for a slow release of hostage bodies for the decision to limit aid trucks to 300 daily. The Islamist militant group has said locating the bodies is difficult.


In fact, Netanyahu - and the US - have known for months that Hamas does not know the whereabouts of some of the deceased hostages and may not be able to return them all. Also, Hamas has openly said in recent days and also informed the negotiators, that due to the extensive destruction of Gaza, more time is needed to located the bodies. Witkoff even raised the issue with the hostage families on the weekend.

It's clear to me the 72-hour demand for all the hostages was an intentional trap and Israel now has its first pretext to breach the ceasefire and/or continue the starvation. Expect more of these shenanigans by Israel, until the genocide is allowed to resume and the ethnic cleansing commences.

I hope I am wrong?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/no-aid-scale-up-yet-gaza-aid-agencies-say-2025-10-14/
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Israel cuts agreed aid into Gaza over slow release of hostage bodies (Original Post) AloeVera Oct 14 OP
That didn't take long obamanut2012 Oct 14 #1
Trump gets the record newdeal2 Oct 14 #8
Withholding food from an imprisoned group of people has got to be a war crime questionseverything Oct 14 #2
It is. But Israel gets away with every war crime. No one stops it and it's never held accountable. AloeVera Oct 14 #9
it was negotiated by trump. that should answer any questions like "I hope I am wrong" nt msongs Oct 14 #3
So Hamas couldn't keep track of all the hostages comradebillyboy Oct 14 #4
I guess there's no choice but to keep starving children. AloeVera Oct 14 #10
Hamas could live up to its side of the agreement. comradebillyboy Oct 14 #14
Never mind. Bye. N/T AloeVera Oct 14 #22
"It's been the case from the outset that they (Hamas) have not had control over all of the hostages." Eko Oct 14 #16
Not only cutting back food - but continuing to murder womanofthehills Wednesday #27
Of course they are. AloeVera Wednesday #31
Already falling apart lame54 Oct 14 #5
But trmp has declared peace! More peace than the last 3000 years! spanone Oct 14 #6
They'll keeping finding ways Diraven Oct 14 #7
The slow release was agreed on when the documents were drawn up. LAS14 Oct 14 #11
Truth! Disgusting. But Netanyahu is not a scumbag. AloeVera Oct 14 #13
Every time there's a ceasefire Hamas emerges in seemingly full strength, armed Prairie Gates Oct 14 #12
Not even Hamas claims that many Palestinians comradebillyboy Oct 14 #17
Israel has hundreds of unreturned Palestinian bodies womanofthehills Wednesday #28
Yes. It's 1:15. AloeVera Wednesday #32
Predicted. Passages Oct 14 #15
The actual plan Johnny2X2X Oct 14 #18
Between the Hamas executions and this stunt does anyone think that this ceasefire will last? LetMyPeopleVote Oct 14 #19
You mean the stunt of feigning outrage and shock about what you already knew? AloeVera Oct 14 #20
Hello! womanofthehills Wednesday #29
I am not surprised by this LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #30
This should have been settled by the UN Security Council rather than headline hunting war criminals like Bibi and Don. Ping Tung Oct 14 #21
That didn't take long iemanja Wednesday #23
Every strategy of the "war" was designed to accomplish that goal. AloeVera Wednesday #24
Post removed Post removed Wednesday #25
Here they go..... Clouds Passing Wednesday #26
Denial of humanitarian access to civilians, including children....are prohibited and amount to crimes against humanity. Ping Tung Wednesday #33
Why did Hamas assent to the agreement if they knew that they couldn't fufill it? Jose Garcia Wednesday #34
They mistakenly thought Israel was acting in good faith. AloeVera Wednesday #35

questionseverything

(11,344 posts)
2. Withholding food from an imprisoned group of people has got to be a war crime
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 05:02 PM
Oct 14

I’m so sorry to the women and children of Gaza who have had no say in any of this

AloeVera

(3,884 posts)
9. It is. But Israel gets away with every war crime. No one stops it and it's never held accountable.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 07:12 PM
Oct 14

Using food as a weapon of war/collective punishment is just one of many war crimes committed.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/07/gaza-evidence-points-to-israels-continued-use-of-starvation-to-inflict-genocide-against-palestinians/

Btw even the 600 trucks a day are not nearly enough. Before the war it was 500 trucks a day in aid AND trucks with commercial goods to supplement the aid entered as well. Gaza also had its own croplands, of which only around 1.5% is now accessible or not destroyed. Animals were raised for food - they are of course all dead. Over 4,000 fishermen provided additional sustenance, but they are not allowed into the sea for 2 years.

To prevent further starvation and stunting of children and suffering, massive, intensive influx of aid is urgently needed. Not just 600 trucks, allowed in through only 2 crossings (Israel refuses to open more crossings though the UN and aid agencies are pleading) thus ensuring the aid won't be distributed everywhere, and not half-filled trucks either - a common subterfuge employed by COGAT, an agency I believe is comprised of the worst lying sociopaths imaginable.

I am so sorry too. That humans can be so cruel and for how much these poor people have suffered and it's STILL not enough!

comradebillyboy

(10,897 posts)
4. So Hamas couldn't keep track of all the hostages
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 05:40 PM
Oct 14

they murdered. Now they say they can't keep their part of the cease fire bargain.

If an agreement is going to work both sides have to honor it.

AloeVera

(3,884 posts)
10. I guess there's no choice but to keep starving children.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 07:56 PM
Oct 14

What else can Israel DO??


Netanyahu KNEW many of the hostages were held by other factions and Hamas did not know where they were. He was advised of this by the Biden Admin for heaven's sake, ages ago, as well as his own intelligence and Hamas itself during the bargaining. He bargained in bad faith knowing he could use the dead hostages' unknown whereabouts for the pretext he needed to break

The three Israeli sources say Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his cabinet have known for months that Hamas does not know the whereabouts of some of the deceased hostages and may therefore be unable to meet that demand. CNN has asked the Israeli government for comment.

The United States has also known about the issue for some time, with negotiators in the Biden administration aware that some hostages were held by factions in Gaza over which Hamas does not exert full control.

Barbara Leaf, Assistant Secretary of State for Middle Eastern Affairs under President Joe Biden, told CNN: “It’s been the case from the outset that they (Hamas) have not had control over all of the hostages.” Leaf said recovering the remains of some of the dead hostages could be difficult. “It’s far more likely they can recover all of the living hostages,” she said.


https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/08/middleeast/israel-hamas-dead-hostages-return-intl

People will starve. There is no defense for this.



comradebillyboy

(10,897 posts)
14. Hamas could live up to its side of the agreement.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 08:29 PM
Oct 14

But they are too busy executing fellow Palestinians who might challenge their despotic rule in Gaza.

Eko

(9,724 posts)
16. "It's been the case from the outset that they (Hamas) have not had control over all of the hostages."
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 08:33 PM
Oct 14

womanofthehills

(10,505 posts)
27. Not only cutting back food - but continuing to murder
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 10:24 AM
Wednesday

BREAKING: Despite the ceasefire, Israeli forces are bombing and setting fire to civilians’ homes in northern Gaza.


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AloeVera

(3,884 posts)
31. Of course they are.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 11:29 AM
Wednesday

There will not be one building left standing. And most Israelis cheer this on. IDF soldiers are gleefully posting about it.

When people returned to Gaza City a few days ago, they found their homes - previously standing before the invasion - utterly destroyed, within the space of a couple of weeks. As well as their one remaining sewage treatment plant.

How all this is tolerated by our supposedly "civilized" rules-based order is beyond me.

LAS14

(15,371 posts)
11. The slow release was agreed on when the documents were drawn up.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 07:59 PM
Oct 14

From the beginning Hamas said it didn't know where all the remains were and it would take time. Heard this on the Newshour tonight. The talking head was dismayed that Netanyahu was acting like he'd never heard this.

Netanyahu is a scumbag.

AloeVera

(3,884 posts)
13. Truth! Disgusting. But Netanyahu is not a scumbag.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 08:28 PM
Oct 14

He's a scumbag and a genocidal sociopath who thinks starving and killing kids is ok as long as he gets what he wants.

Prairie Gates

(6,559 posts)
12. Every time there's a ceasefire Hamas emerges in seemingly full strength, armed
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 08:02 PM
Oct 14

and cheered by the people. It puts everybody a little uptight, I suppose.

The IDF, despite killing 80,000 people and destroying the entire area, has still utterly failed in their goals. It's a little embarrassing.

womanofthehills

(10,505 posts)
28. Israel has hundreds of unreturned Palestinian bodies
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 10:35 AM
Wednesday

Ceasefire talks include a formula for returning bodies but no one asks why Israel is holding 726 Palestinian bodies.

Silence speaks louder than


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AloeVera

(3,884 posts)
32. Yes. It's 1:15.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 12:31 PM
Wednesday

Very telling.

And it's at least 726 dead Palestinians. We have no idea how many more, perhaps thousands. Why does Israel have so many bodies and why/how were they killed? Who are they?

But no one asks those questions. Palestinian lives....

Johnny2X2X

(23,516 posts)
18. The actual plan
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 08:34 PM
Oct 14

Trump and Netanyahu told us their plan months ago.

They’re going to kill or expel every single man, woman, and child living in Gaza so the can sell their land to their real estate developer pals.

AloeVera

(3,884 posts)
20. You mean the stunt of feigning outrage and shock about what you already knew?
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 08:59 PM
Oct 14

Just so you can continue starving and killing people to reach your goals?

Trump gave Hamas control over internal security - for a time. I guess Hamas feels more secure with its enemies - those collaborating with Israel, looting aid or threatening its power - dead.

And Israel has no say in the matter, for once. Although I suspect it doesn't like losing its informants and collaborators and the clans and criminal gangs it has co-opted and paid off. So expect pressure on Trump soon. He'll probably TACO.



womanofthehills

(10,505 posts)
29. Hello!
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 10:39 AM
Wednesday

“Israel was already 100% aware that Hamas would be unable to return the bodies of all the dead hostages because of the conditions created by the bombing campaign. They planned to use this to justify torching the ceasefire agreement before it even started.” CNN World - Johnstone

Ping Tung

(3,909 posts)
21. This should have been settled by the UN Security Council rather than headline hunting war criminals like Bibi and Don.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 09:14 PM
Oct 14

The kind that take pride in starving, torturing, and murdering people.

They made a desert and called it peace. Tacitus

iemanja

(56,977 posts)
23. That didn't take long
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 01:43 AM
Wednesday

Sadly, I suspected Israel would violate the peace terms. Their goal remains to seize Gaza and the West Bank as Israeli only territories.

AloeVera

(3,884 posts)
24. Every strategy of the "war" was designed to accomplish that goal.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 07:58 AM
Wednesday

The scorched-earth policy, the indiscriminate killing and starvation were not just vengeful retribution and collective punishment but the clear steps needed to terrorize and starve the population out of Gaza. And it's not just Netanyahu. The vast majority of Israelis want Palestinians gone - far away.

It's the Israeli version of "peace".

Response to AloeVera (Original post)

Ping Tung

(3,909 posts)
33. Denial of humanitarian access to civilians, including children....are prohibited and amount to crimes against humanity.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 12:32 PM
Wednesday
https://childrenandarmedconflict.un.org/six-grave-violations/denial-of-humanitarian-access/
Prohibition under international law

Denial of humanitarian access to civilians, including children, and attacks against humanitarian workers assisting children are prohibited under the 4th Geneva Convention and its Additional Protocols and may amount to a crime against humanity and a war crime. Moreover, it is a principle in customary international law.

AloeVera

(3,884 posts)
35. They mistakenly thought Israel was acting in good faith.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 02:29 PM
Wednesday
The U.S.-proposed ceasefire plan called for all hostages living and dead to be handed over within 72 hours, meaning on Monday. But it provided a mechanism if that didn’t happen, saying Hamas should share information about deceased hostages and “exert maximum effort” to carry out the handover as soon as possible.


https://halifax.citynews.ca/2025/10/14/missing-bodies-of-hostages-top-the-list-of-uncertainties-as-fragile-gaza-ceasefire-holds/
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