I cannot for one minute believe that these Democrats that decided to do this, didn't proceed further

[bluestarone]

To DEMAND the House 100% agree to vote on ACA, BEFORE they decide, or deal is off! I mean WTF?

[Autumn]

1. Believe it, because they didn't see any need to do it.

[gab13by13]

2. Every Congressional Democrat should take a walk down memory lane.

Krasnov is on a revenge tour and he hates Barack Obama, especially for the beatdown at the correspondence dinner.

Krasnov will go to the ends of the earth to kill Obamacare.

Obamacare will be history soon and so will 50,000 Americans who will die within a year.

[RockRaven]

3. Here is a question: if, hypothetically, they were complicit controlled opposition, what would

they have done differently from what they did in fact?

[bluestarone]

4. Not sure, but maybe put words in this bill that state if the HOUSE does not bring it to the floor

then THIS vote in the Senate will be NULL and VOID.

[ThreeNoSeep]

9. Ding-Ding!

But hey, let's just "give the process a chance"-"Keep our powder dry"-"enjoy the 5-dimensional game of Thumb War" or whatever.

[MontanaMama]

5. Senator Ron Wyden

has been sound the alarm that rethugs are sneaking a national abortion ban into this funding bill. Any bets on if Schumer and friends will roll over for that too?

[bluestarone]

6. Sad to say i would NOT bet anything on what they would do.

Sad day for our future wins.

[republianmushroom]

7. DIN's don't demand they roll over.

The deal was what their real boss told them to accept.

[appmanga]

8. The one chit Republicans have the Democrats will never be able to beat...

...is they don't give a damn about anybody but themselves and their filthy rich overlords. And anybody who believes Schumer's Disgraceful Eight, which included his OWN WHIP (Durbin) simply mutinied him, I have bridge in Brooklyn that's an absolute bargain.

When they look at the polls and see they're doing worse with voter the Republicans, a fair amount of that total comes from fellow Democrats, fellow Democrats who are tired and frustrated of things like what ended the shutdown: capitulation with no meaningful forward to achieve what the resistance was about.

These Democrats weren't willing to let strong electoral victories soak in as leverage before throwing in the towel less than a week after those results.

Thune will give them their vote, and will be another act in an ongoing piece of Kabuki theater.

[Sogo]

10. If the House doesn't hold a vote, then we're back to the standoff that most here seem to be craving, and then

the Rs own the expiration of the ACA extension even more....

[bluestarone]

11. Agree! It's on

The republicans shoulder. Very hard for any voter, to blame this on Democrats. Might be a plus for us in November 2026.

[Emile]

12. Approximately 7.3 million people will lose ACA coverage in 2026 if the enhanced premium tax credits are not renewed, and

an estimated 4.8 million will become uninsured.

I hope the 8 can sleep tonight.

[tritsofme]

14. How would extending the shutdown along with the suffering of federal workers

and the uncertainty of SNAP families Trump wants to starve, save insurance for those millions of people?

Republicans aren’t offering concessions, if they want to blow up the insurance market and cause mass suffering, they will have to make that case to voters next year, and own every bit of it.

[tritsofme]

13. Again...what does extending the shutdown accomplish if it will not yield concessions from Republicans?

It just creates more pain for millions of federal workers, many of whom are late on mortgage/rent/car/credit card payments and uncertainty for the SNAP families Donald Trump is trying to starve.

Republicans control the fate of the ACA subsidies regardless, what is the point of insisting on the continued suffering that a shutdown causes?

[bluestarone]

15. The problem as i see it is, The WAY it ended. We could have ended it a lot different way.

1) deciding together with all facts. ( not causing Democrats to, like cross a picket line) That's the look i see. They ended this possibly the worst way possible. If Johnson does not allow a vote on ACA,. THAT can be pinned on REPUBLICANS, which would be a plus for midterms. This could have been done in a way Democrats TOGETHER end this shutdown, and ALL get credit for doing it.

[tritsofme]

16. I absolutely agree with you there. It was not handled well, the plug should have been pulled after a week.

[bluestarone]

17. Now Knowing the way it has ended, I would agree.