This is no longer rumor circulating online. It's written into the files.

[sheshe2]

‪Kye‬
‪@gxldsociety.bsky.social‬
· 19m

BREAKING: Newly released Epstein documents accuse Donald Trump of participating in a sexual assault with Jeffrey Epstein involving a young girl.

This is no longer rumor circulating online. It’s written into the files.

BREAKING: Newly released Epstein documents accuse Donald Trump of participating in a sexual assault with Jeffrey Epstein involving a young girl.

This is no longer rumor circulating online. It’s written into the files.

— Kye (@gxldsociety.bsky.social) 2025-12-23T16:03:37.605Z

[pfitz59]

1. If this slipped through the cracks

how much more has been redacted, shredded, withheld or sold to Putin.

[sheshe2]

21. Court Docs:

Court documents

ia801203.us.archive.org/26/items/gov...

— ATracy (@mntnman444.bsky.social) 2025-12-23T16:11:26.649Z

Dear God, what those girls went through. They have suffered so much pain.

[Wiz Imp]

29. It's been widely demonstrated that there are very strong reasons to question the authenticity

of the "Katie Johnson" allegations. I'm not saying they are false, but they are far from proven.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/09/03/trump-epstein-katie-johnson/

The Bottom Line
Recent claims that new documents prove the validity of the Johnson claims are false, because these documents are from 2016 and have nothing to do with what have become known as the "Epstein docs."

Viral claims that Trump has a history of sexually assaulting children first emerged with the Johnson lawsuits in 2016. Pictures of court documents related to the case have lent perceived credibility to additional unsourced claims of child abuse that followed, and memes frequently combine the two claims.

Such claims are not new, come with several red flags and originated with an aggressive push by a serial fabulist.

[pnwmom]

32. I believe her. The attorney who first represented her was a non-publicity seeking attorney

(not the woman who eventually took up her cause) from Princeton, New Jersey.

I believe her final attorney that she withdrew out of fear.

[srobertss]

45. Me too

Her association with the shady publicist has tainted this story. But I have a friend who contacted the court after the last suit was dropped and the judge's assistant told her there had been a payoff to Katie Johnson. The assistant was probably telling more than she should have. I really trust this friend. My friend was horrified that the story was going to disappear and felt compelled to dig in to it personally. She asked why they let this criminal behavior just drop simply because there had been a pay off and was told they don't pursue criminal behavior on their own without someone pushing for an investigation.

[pnwmom]

46. Things like this disappear every day. Someone files a lawsuit, then signs an NDA

and accepts a settlement.

If Katie Johnson was satisfied, I don't blame her. Trying to go up against Trump all alone (to the point of filing her first action pro se) must have been so scary.

Even now many of Epstein's victims are afraid are afraid their lives will be ruined if they speak out. Trump's victims have much more reason to be afraid.

[Raven123]

39. Thanks for the link. What a tangled mess.

[FakeNoose]

42. This "Katie Johnson" case was never actually litigated

I don't believe the real "Katie Johnson" has ever come forward since shortly after this document was filed. The case was dropped before the 2016 election because "Katie Johnson" disappeared. We've been told that the real "Katie Johnson" has changed her name and location along with her entire family. We don't know if she's still alive or if she's in the US.

I believe her story, and I also believe that her and her family's lives have been threatened. If they (or she) ever come forward they will be killed before anything can be legally determined.

[live love laugh]

25. They had a whole year to get rid of this and they failed.

[AllyCat]

26. That's because there is so much in there.

Hard to scrub ‘em all.

[Bengus81]

34. No way there is only one set of all these docs. Tossing them just makes em more guilty.

[dalton99a]

2. Kick

[BOSSHOG]

3. No doubt Republican leadership

You know, the boys and girls with conservative values, will start impeachment proceedings any day now. Or soon. Or upon further review. Because we all know how the importance of justice is to those with “values.” I know, you’re thinking but they passed on 34 felonies and rape and moral degeneracy but golly jeepers this is what the leaders in the gop will take to task. They’ll rid the White House of the vermin or his name isn’t spineless Mikey Johnson. Just wait.

[leftstreet]

4. No one will do anything

[BigMin28]

5. You are right

Videos could surface but the powers that be and his cult would excuse him.

[durablend]

9. "THE LEFT KNOWS CLINTON DID IT"

Yeah, that's the excuse they'll come up with.

[Lochloosa]

38. My response to anyone making that statement is:

We don't CARE who is implicated. Release the files and let the American people make up their minds.

[MontanaMama]

6. I believe you're correct.

Nothing will happen. Just another day in paradise.

[chicoescuela]

17. 100% correct. Nothing will happen. Just a Democrat hoax don't ya know

[slightlv]

48. Not one of the R's will do anything because they're ALL in on it...

from sex and drug parties that have both been rumored and explicitly talked about by the R's who took part, to sheltering the worst of the worst of mankind - people who rape and kill children. They all have a part in it. They're not about to turn anyone in, or testify against anyone because someone could turn around and do the same to them.

The only thing that could be done is getting them out of politics and public life altogether. But that would mean the rank and file "common man" republicans would have to grow backbones and admit their part in being... at least duped... by all these people. I don't think they're going to do anything like that. It's hard enough for a person to admit any kind of mistake, let alone being taken advantage of like the Magas have been used. Instead, they'll fight tooth and nail to disprove everything, because their emotional state won't allow anything else. And remember, THESE people are the ones who are so self-righteous about going to church all the time!

[progressoid]

7. Yeah.

Human trafficking was a big deal to them before the election.

Not so much anymore. Hmmm...

[MustLoveBeagles]

11. Funny how that works out

[Ilsa]

12. Of course they did something about it. Someone

who has known Pedo47 for decades killed a witness or had her killed.

[KS Toronado]

18. I question if Pedophile Protectors will grow a spine overnight

Did you forget the thingy?

[BOSSHOG]

20. I don't use the sarcasm thing

I pass or fail on my own words. I would think my prose is obvious most of the time. I’d be most surprised if republicans did the right thing. The only thing.

[Justice matters.]

24. The Guardians Of Pedophiles is their real name.

GOP for short. (Formerly known as GQP.)

[LymphocyteLover]

37. No doubt! I'm sure this is the straw that breaks the camel's back!!!

just kidding

[Just Jerome]

8. But

What about the Clintons?

Huh?

I

[Pluvious]

15. And her emails !!

[underpants]

10. Wow.

[Ilsa]

13. It's too bad

the limo driver didn't act on his impulse to pull the car over.

[FakeNoose]

14. Even the Repukes are going to be appalled ... at least enough of them will be

The "blind" obedience and worship of Chump will disintegrate quickly, I'm predicting this now and I believe it will start soon. Not all the Repukes will see his guilt, but enough will, and it's going to change everything.

Yes it is appalling ... but he's guilty of so much evil that it's hard to get ANY MORE DISGUSTED than I already am. This is not going away, it's just going to get worse. We need to brace ourselves.

[NJCher]

22. this is just common sense

and it's already happening, in case anyone had a doubt.

However, that famous saying that Dems will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory is apparent in the attitudes of posts 3, 4, 9, 6, 17, & 18.

I don't know how you get through a day with a losing attitude like that, I really don't.

[FakeNoose]

40. I've always believed he's going down ...

... the only escape for him is if the Grim Reaper gets him first before he gets hauled off to justice.
Some days I root for the Reaper, other days I root for Karma.

[LAS14]

16. Is there an easier to read version of this somewhere? nt

[sheshe2]

19. I don't know.

I have a touch screen and am able to read it all that way.

Sorry, Las.

[NoSheep]

23. Could this be the way the thugs pushing Project 2025 policy finally get rid of him?

[Wiz Imp]

27. A couple things.

First, I'd like to see a link to the actual document on the DOJ website that contains this.

Second, it's apparently from an FBI intake document, dated October 27, 2020.

The information is presented as allegations and recollections shared with the FBI, not as findings from a trial or conclusions reached by investigators.

It is important to be clear. An FBI intake document records what was reported to the agency. It is not a determination of guilt, and the allegations described have not been adjudicated in court.

https://balleralert.com/profiles/blogs/epstein-files-trump-rape-allegations-suicide/
The timing(immediately before the 2020 election) will certainly make it suspicious to the people who refuse to believe Trump could have done anything wrong.

So this is not necessarily the "smoking gun" many people think it is. Anyone could have made any allegation they wanted to the FBI tip line and it would have been recorded like this. It would help if someone could identify some corroborating information. Like the name of the person who was found to have committed suicide in Kiefer, OK.

I'm not saying this isn't true. To the contrary, I believe this is a pretty strong and believable allegation. I just think people should be cautious about presenting this as proof of anything until more info comes out.

[Kablooie]

33. I feel the same.

You can’t take a single source on the internet seriously unless you corroborate with multiple reliable sources.

If it is validated, an impeachment does not have to have adjudicated evidence. Not that I would expect that to happen any time soon. .

[Skittles]

50. I doubt 10,000 docs would be enough for some people

like the meme says, the girls simply do not matter to pedo protectors

[Fiendish Thingy]

28. Got another source besides "Kye"?

If true, this would be all over the news, and I haven’t seen it anywhere else.

So, yes, it is at best, just a rumour.

But,of course, spreading unsourced rumours and misinformation is perfectly OK, even encouraged, amirite?

[sheshe2]

30. Post 21 Court Documents.

If you tell me they are fake, then I will delete my OP.

There is no need to be rude to me.

[Fiendish Thingy]

31. If they are actual court documents, they would be available on the court's website. Nt

[sheshe2]

53. You are saying Bondi would allow certain documents to be viewed.

Viewed and not erased?

I don't trust the few they have released well past the due date. They are all selective releases and VERY heavily redacted.

[Wiz Imp]

41. Yes, someone filed a lawsuit under the name "Katie Johnson"

That doesn't make it true and there are strong reasons to be skeptical about the authenticity of her allegations. On top of that, it has absolutely nothing to do with the allegations in the original post (the bluesky post by Kye).

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/09/03/trump-epstein-katie-johnson/

The Bottom Line
Recent claims that new documents prove the validity of the Johnson claims are false, because these documents are from 2016 and have nothing to do with what have become known as the "Epstein docs."

Viral claims that Trump has a history of sexually assaulting children first emerged with the Johnson lawsuits in 2016. Pictures of court documents related to the case have lent perceived credibility to additional unsourced claims of child abuse that followed, and memes frequently combine the two claims.

Such claims are not new, come with several red flags and originated with an aggressive push by a serial fabulist.

[GusBob]

35. Is that the one with the note on the last page ?

About someone who worked security for the Clintons, and someone was drunk and got fired and some story about the OKC bombing?


I could not make heads nor tales of that part

[Wiz Imp]

43. I just saw that part

In my opinion, it significantly raises the skepticism about the rest of the report. There's a reference to a John Nichols having worked security for the Clintons, but there is no record of anyone by that name ever working for the Clintons. They also seem to be trying to tie this into the Okahoma City bombing in some way which makes no sense. Terry Nichols was involved in the Oklahoma City bombing, not John.

After reading that, the more this comes across as nonsense.

[ashredux]

36. Well, I just read this. I had to print it out to actually read it. This is heavy shit, very heavy shit.....

The people we are dealing with, the people around Trump, Trump himself, are just plain evil. It’s hard to explain how people can be so evil, but they are. Usually, we think of evil people as low line drug dealers and junkies, we ignore the people at the top who were just as evil…..

[Clouds Passing]

44. The Victim

[RANDYWILDMAN]

47. so which reporter will ask ????

and follow up, this should not be allow him to avoid or to shout down or to pretend he can't hear the question !!!

This is all the US national media should focus on, until he answers the questions or resigns !!!!

You owe us, you got 10 years of red meat coverage with the tool, lets send him into retirement, maybe at a supermax or at least back to Florida so he can count his crypto loot...

[slightlv]

49. I honestly don't know anything about this "Katie Johnson" thing...

but I AM tired of hearing her name being used as nominally a wipeout for everything experienced by these little girls. Even if you make a mistake here and there, believe the damned females! More often that not, the crime happened. It's just our society doesn't count female as being important enough to believe. I would daresay that every single female on DU has had her own experience, and some are still trying to work through them. As one of those affected, I can't tell you how hard it is to go through this crap with all these touchstones being brought up and tossed aside. I want to stay up on what's going on, but damn... it's like 'skim through this' or that report. I certainly don't want to go down a rape rabbit hole just because the accusation came from a girl, and can't be trusted because she is a girl. And that makes me feel awful in hoping that a few little boys were raped, too... surely THAT would make this society sit up and take a little notice. It finally looped back against the Catholic Church... altho the Baptists are still fighting that any such thing could take place.

[azureblue]

51. Download the court filing

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf

[slightlv]

52. I can do that but

It still doesn't change using one example that cancels out all womens.. and girls... voices. That's what I was bitc#ing about how ir all seemed, taken in aggregate.

But I've got so much bad juju going on around my house right now... a hubby who is over the dementia edge, and mourning the first xmas without my mom. I'm probably hypersensitive.

[Queso Delicioso]

54. I heard that some of those redactions were done badly

Specifically, the redactors just changed the text to be black on a black background. Meaning that if you select it, then copy and paste to some other app, you'll get whatever they didn't want you to see. It isn't 100%, because not all of the redactors were incompetent or maliciously compliant, but it's something.

[red dog 1]

55. You're right!

BREAKING: TikTok users just realized the Epstein file PDFs aren’t really redacted. You can copy and paste the text and read exactly what they tried to hide. Sloppy doesn’t even begin to cover it.

— Kye (@gxldsociety.bsky.social) 2025-12-24T00:28:41.230Z

[Jarqui]

56. I thought there was video of Katie making this claim

In the video, she alleged Trump was attracted to her because she looked like a young Ivanka ...
I think they scared her off.


EDIT:
here it is:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220887472