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Miles Archer

(21,572 posts)
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 09:13 AM 17 hrs ago

AMAZING HOW golfing, trolling on social media, ballroom building, and raising prices equals low ratings for Trump.

The problem with America, as Trump has pointed out many times, is that people just don't appreciate him enough. Nor do they show respect for the great work being done by shadow presidents Stephen Miller and Russell Vought. Ungrateful bastards.

CNN data analyst Harry Enten was left floored Sunday after new polling showed President Donald Trump’s support among independents has plummeted to staggering lows just shy of a year into his second term.

According to the new data, Trump’s net approval rating among independent voters fell by a stunning 42 points from January to December, from -1 to -43, a drop so severe that Enten compared the president to French oceanographer and filmmaker Jacques Cousteau, known for his undersea expeditions.

“We're talking about 43 points underwater come December, that is a decline of 42 points on his net approval rating!” Enten exclaimed. “Donald Trump is hanging out with Jacques Cousteau; that is how far underwater Donald Trump is with independents at this point!”

Driving Trump’s plummeting approval ratings were two key issues: the economy and immigration. On the economy, Trump enjoyed a +9 approval when he took office in January, an approval that fell by 25 points to -16 by December. On immigration, Trump’s approval fell by 15 points in the same time period, from +9 in January to -6 by December.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2674833098/
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AMAZING HOW golfing, trolling on social media, ballroom building, and raising prices equals low ratings for Trump. (Original Post) Miles Archer 17 hrs ago OP
I doubt that anyone is "floored" by this ... or even mildly surprised FakeNoose 17 hrs ago #1
Makes you wonder what world some PatSeg 17 hrs ago #3
Even if the Grim Reaper comes for him.... COL Mustard 15 hrs ago #10
The difference, I believe, is that Congress would not kowtow to the Mascara Macho. eppur_se_muova 9 hrs ago #20
Probably true, but.... COL Mustard 8 hrs ago #21
no surprise justsomeguy01 17 hrs ago #2
It just shows you that Independents are idiots, they would be Democrats if they had a brain. dem4decades 16 hrs ago #4
It's a by-product of unrelenting "whataboutism." Miles Archer 16 hrs ago #6
Yes, it's really disheartening how many actually seem to believe both sides suck, and there's no real difference. ShazzieB 15 hrs ago #14
if you see 'no difference' between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris stopdiggin 14 hrs ago #17
The Democratic and Republican parties have both changed from what they were during depression, WWII. 60s, 80s etc ChicagoTeamster 14 hrs ago #15
I was at my neighbors yesterday and Fox News was blaring as always. They were loudly travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #5
Putting that shit soul and Jacques Cousteau in the same sentence in a commentary is fucking gross. LuvLoogie 16 hrs ago #7
I found it funny. And it's nice to see someone still alive remembers Jasques Cousteau. paleotn 15 hrs ago #8
How about trump is hanging out with the sludge at the bottom of Bubbly Creek? LuvLoogie 15 hrs ago #12
And I liked him and his stories. Why is his rankings so low? Perhaps I missed something... SWBTATTReg 10 hrs ago #19
Traitor knows how to loaf. Kid Berwyn 15 hrs ago #9
Nice work if you can get it, I guess COL Mustard 15 hrs ago #11
Work builds a better world. Kid Berwyn 15 hrs ago #13
We can only hope that this translates Old Crank 14 hrs ago #16
And remember: Republicans support, defend, allow, approve, tolerate, and/or implement... Beartracks 13 hrs ago #18

FakeNoose

(40,049 posts)
1. I doubt that anyone is "floored" by this ... or even mildly surprised
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 09:37 AM
17 hrs ago

Chump is the WORST President we have ever had, EVER ... and there's still 3 years to go unless the Grim Reaper steps in.

If Harry Enten is truly surprised that Chump's ratings have cratered, then he hasn't been paying attention.

COL Mustard

(7,947 posts)
10. Even if the Grim Reaper comes for him....
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:14 AM
15 hrs ago

The alternative wouldn't be any better. Dam we're skrood.

eppur_se_muova

(40,900 posts)
20. The difference, I believe, is that Congress would not kowtow to the Mascara Macho.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 06:00 PM
9 hrs ago

VDJance does not have whatever it is that Trmp has, which is a really low bar.

Remember, he was a one-term Senator only courtesy of his sugar daddy Thiel. Other Senators didn't think much of him, and know what all his weaknesses are. And every one of them knows he won't be around for long, so no lasting harm in bucking his policies, whatever they are this week. He can't throw his weight around because he doesn't have any.

On the campaign trail, he showed all the charisma of a moldering sponge, so don't expect a big wave of support, but rather a big wave of staying home on Election Day.

COL Mustard

(7,947 posts)
21. Probably true, but....
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 06:11 PM
8 hrs ago

As long as we have Miller, Vought and the rest of the minions/henchmen, we are still skrood. And I don't think a President Vance would have the cojones to fire them. After all, they are the bureaucratic technicians actually running (or ruining) things.

justsomeguy01

(36 posts)
2. no surprise
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 09:49 AM
17 hrs ago

I am always amazed at how partisan Reps & Dems forget that more than 1/3 of voters are registered as Independent/UAF. Sure, most of them are reliable R or D voters, but many still have the ability to not see things thru a partisan lens.

dem4decades

(13,610 posts)
4. It just shows you that Independents are idiots, they would be Democrats if they had a brain.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:23 AM
16 hrs ago

Miles Archer

(21,572 posts)
6. It's a by-product of unrelenting "whataboutism."
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:37 AM
16 hrs ago

Every time Republicans get caught with their hand in the cookie jar, it's "Well, (fill in Democrat's name here) did (fill in a conspiracy theory), and that's worse!"

And, the easily fooled and intellectually incurious members of the general public take it all in and decide they have to be just as wary of Democrats as they are of Republicans.

ShazzieB

(22,174 posts)
14. Yes, it's really disheartening how many actually seem to believe both sides suck, and there's no real difference.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:59 AM
15 hrs ago

I think that's why a lot of people don't bother to vote. They don't see that who wins an election would make any real difference.

I know this mindset is baffling to those of us who know what a huge difference there really is, but we do ourselves and our candidates a disservice when we let ourselves lose sight of it.

stopdiggin

(14,963 posts)
17. if you see 'no difference' between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 01:00 PM
14 hrs ago

Then you are more than just disinterested or misinformed - you're truly delusional. A candidate for heavy medication.

I hear a lot of this too - and it really, really grinds my gears.

"Listen, chump! That ain't even marginally plausible - and you know it!"

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ChicagoTeamster

(397 posts)
15. The Democratic and Republican parties have both changed from what they were during depression, WWII. 60s, 80s etc
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:09 PM
14 hrs ago

And, this country is vastly different culturally when you travel from the NorthEast to the South, to the Midwest, SouthWest, West Coast or NorthWest. There will always be people who feel no connection to either party until they feel they need to oppose a Trump, or a Bush, or some people didn't like the Clintons even though only Bill was president.

Also, some people are issue voters not party voters. They'll vote for local politicians and ballot referendums that support what they like or oppose what they don't like and skip the presidential choices almost every time they vote.

And, then there's the people that almost never voted until they had a Bernie Sanders or a Trump to vote for in the hopes of stirring things up.

Last but not least are the people who don't vote because they have always believed that the ballots aren't even counted and that the whole thing is a show put on by the people who really run the country who have already decided among themselves who the President was going to be.

I was an election judge for years and when I would try to register people to vote or get signatures to put a candidate or issue on the ballot I heard all kinds of crazy theories. And the internet and social media have only made the situation worse.

travelingthrulife

(4,363 posts)
5. I was at my neighbors yesterday and Fox News was blaring as always. They were loudly
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:25 AM
16 hrs ago

assuring their viewers that Trump's job satisfaction was beginning to soar because of some masterful Christmas speech.

LuvLoogie

(8,481 posts)
7. Putting that shit soul and Jacques Cousteau in the same sentence in a commentary is fucking gross.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:47 AM
16 hrs ago

Peak America.

paleotn

(21,454 posts)
8. I found it funny. And it's nice to see someone still alive remembers Jasques Cousteau.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:08 AM
15 hrs ago

LuvLoogie

(8,481 posts)
12. How about trump is hanging out with the sludge at the bottom of Bubbly Creek?
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:17 AM
15 hrs ago

--Bubbly Creek is the nickname for the South Fork of the South Branch of the Chicago River, notorious for bubbling due to gases from centuries of meatpacking waste dumped by the nearby Union Stockyards; though still polluted and a former environmental disaster, it's seeing restoration efforts with wildlife returning and community projects, becoming a symbol of urban resilience between Chicago's Bridgeport and McKinley Park neighborhoods.

History & The "Bubbles"
Origin of Name: The creek earned its name from the methane and carbonic gases bubbling up from decomposing blood, entrails, and other organic waste from the Union Stockyards (1860s-1970s).

Pollution: The sludge was so thick, it formed solid cakes that people and animals could walk on, and the gases sometimes caught fire, leading to explosions, reports Chicago Tonight - PBS and Simple English Wikipedia.

River Reversal: To protect Lake Michigan, the Chicago River's flow was reversed, but the creek remained heavily polluted.

SWBTATTReg

(26,012 posts)
19. And I liked him and his stories. Why is his rankings so low? Perhaps I missed something...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 04:57 PM
10 hrs ago

COL Mustard

(7,947 posts)
11. Nice work if you can get it, I guess
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:17 AM
15 hrs ago

Personally, I'd rather be the working stiff that I am.

Kid Berwyn

(22,765 posts)
13. Work builds a better world.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:48 AM
15 hrs ago
On Juneteenth, President Trump says America has "too many non-working holidays"



"It is costing our Country $BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to keep all of these businesses closed. The workers don't want it either! Soon we'll end up having a holiday for every … working day of the year," Mr. Trump wrote. "It must change if we are going to, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/juneteenth-trump-too-many-non-working-holidays/

So amazingly stupid that he can't even see his own profound stupidity. And even if he could spell it, he will never even consider the hypocrisy.

Traitor has no clue that by his actions -- and inactions -- he will be judged and not just by history.

Old Crank

(6,633 posts)
16. We can only hope that this translates
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:54 PM
14 hrs ago

to the GOP getting blasted in teh House and some GOP senators also.
Epstein and the economy every time we are asked. Ask sitting house and Senators why they support a rapist. Why they voted to strip healthcare.

Beartracks

(14,336 posts)
18. And remember: Republicans support, defend, allow, approve, tolerate, and/or implement...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 01:09 PM
13 hrs ago

... everything Trump does.

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