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mysteryowl

(8,261 posts)
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 09:53 AM 12 hrs ago

Border czar says, Jonathon Ross may sue for defamation of being labled a murderer

Last edited Sun Jan 18, 2026, 10:28 AM - Edit history (1)

A senior White House official suggested that Jonathan Ross, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent who fatally shot Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis, could pursue legal action for defamation against individuals who labeled him a “murderer” online and in public remarks.

“I think you may see him take action,” Tom Homan, the White House border czar, said on the Will Cain Country podcast, adding that Ross has gone into “hiding.”


Homan said he expects Ross to “wait for this investigation to pan itself out” before deciding on any legal steps, noting that social media posts have circulated with Ross’s image and “wanted for murder” language.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-agent-jonathan-ross-might-file-defamation-suit-tom-homan/ar-AA1Ucmlc


That's right, come out of hiding to file your defamation. Let's just see what happens.
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Border czar says, Jonathon Ross may sue for defamation of being labled a murderer (Original Post) mysteryowl 12 hrs ago OP
The trial would be interesting. dem4decades 12 hrs ago #1
The TRUTH is an affirmative defense TexasBushwhacker 7 hrs ago #71
LOL! Do it! You murderer! Coventina 12 hrs ago #2
Let's have a trial first and find out if he's a murderer. sinkingfeeling 12 hrs ago #3
Jonathon Ross is a murderer. Rincewind 12 hrs ago #4
And He's Probably Done It Before WiVoter 12 hrs ago #12
He looked very confident with his actions of murder. mysteryowl 12 hrs ago #16
While recording on his phone! SheltieLover 10 hrs ago #37
He' murdered before and gotten away with it DBoon 10 hrs ago #45
No doubt! SheltieLover 8 hrs ago #69
He looked like a man who has fired a gun at another person before. CincyDem 9 hrs ago #62
Is Pam Going to be his lawyer ornotna 12 hrs ago #5
Please file that law suit Mr.Ross. Joyce Vance, or Glen Kirschner or Kamala Harris might love that case. Botany 12 hrs ago #6
maybe this is BS jaymac 11 hrs ago #29
Money would come flowing in a la Rittenhouse and Zimmerman underpants 5 hrs ago #79
OK, would HOMICIDAL MANIAC be more appropriate? no_hypocrisy 12 hrs ago #7
Every move seems to be a copy-cat of Trump's strategies. Baitball Blogger 12 hrs ago #8
Yeah. His first thought was to hide his computer. People will get at his comments anyway. travelingthrulife 12 hrs ago #10
You win the thread orangecrush 12 hrs ago #19
. Baitball Blogger 10 hrs ago #48
... orangecrush 10 hrs ago #50
DUzy!! 🏅🏆 littlemissmartypants 10 hrs ago #53
And he is not rich and powerful like Trump newdeal2 11 hrs ago #20
Murderer. Go for it Piggy. travelingthrulife 12 hrs ago #9
K&R for, wouldn't he have to show his face? How about some medical records? UTUSN 12 hrs ago #11
Oooh that's good. Prove you were injured. mysteryowl 12 hrs ago #14
I think a grand jury convened by the state/city might wipe the smile off his face.... Historic NY 12 hrs ago #13
He's a murderer, murderer, murderer, murderer, murderer maxrandb 12 hrs ago #15
State sanctioned murderer, murderer, murderer... LuvLoogie 5 hrs ago #83
Discovery will be interesting. sakabatou 12 hrs ago #17
Who does Rebl2 12 hrs ago #18
The "Internet" mysteryowl 11 hrs ago #21
That's RIGHT!!!! AZ8theist 9 hrs ago #65
Homan is... GiqueCee 11 hrs ago #22
He's Bovino, but taller and without hair . . . hatrack 10 hrs ago #52
Sue away you fucker! paleotn 11 hrs ago #23
Who is he going to sue? Probatim 11 hrs ago #24
Wonder how many of these idiots actually know how lawsuits work? SSJVegeta 11 hrs ago #25
Except that Trump did sue for that, and ABC settled for $15 million plus $1 million in legal fees MichMan 9 hrs ago #63
No. He sued a company over misreporting a judegement SSJVegeta 5 hrs ago #85
Defamation lawsuits aren't limited to victims of crimes MichMan 5 hrs ago #86
I never said he didnt have any defamation lawsuits. I said he never sued anybody for calling him a rapist SSJVegeta 2 hrs ago #91
Correct MichMan 1 hr ago #93
It is a legal judgement which he mischarized. Trump is still a rapist SSJVegeta 36 sec ago #95
This would be a fun lawsuit to follow LetMyPeopleVote 6 hrs ago #76
.. SSJVegeta 5 hrs ago #84
It isn't libel, slander, or defamation... Kid Berwyn 11 hrs ago #26
Aww...the poor murderer got his feefees hurt! LudwigPastorius 11 hrs ago #27
"Homan said he expects Ross to "'wait for this investigation to pan itself out'"? Mister Ed 11 hrs ago #28
Calling Lindsay Halligan vankuria 10 hrs ago #30
Judge Wine Box Sweet Rosie Red 9 hrs ago #64
What is it with this Homan jerk? Big tough guy thinks he's KPN 10 hrs ago #31
Quiet, ham face. SheltieLover 10 hrs ago #32
9 days & still no arrest for this murderer Jonathon Ross LetMyPeopleVote 6 hrs ago #77
Sure, our upside-down, inside-out country starts new norm. pandr32 10 hrs ago #33
It's defamation if you say something you KNOW to be false. It isn't if you believe what your saying to be true ToxMarz 10 hrs ago #34
Where is the 50,00 in fbi cash you took? Did kash get half? Blues Heron 10 hrs ago #35
I wonder Katcat 10 hrs ago #36
Just following his dear leader. Hope22 10 hrs ago #38
Bring it, asshole. Because your name isn't filthy enough yet. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #39
Let's just say he sues. That means discovery and depositions. That process will be devastating for him. flashman13 10 hrs ago #40
you gonna sue the entire internet then? TalenaGor 10 hrs ago #41
Oh, he wants to go after podcasters Farmer-Rick 10 hrs ago #42
Where does he expect people to draw the line? DFW 10 hrs ago #43
Executing a young mother with 4 shots to the head, for what? C_U_L8R 10 hrs ago #44
* I think there were 3 shots underpants 5 hrs ago #82
Then allow a fair investigation to prove any innocence vapor2 10 hrs ago #46
He should be sued for wrongful death. (NT) The Wizard 10 hrs ago #47
Yes, if he could be found mysteryowl 10 hrs ago #51
Does FUCKING MURDERING SADISTIC MISOGYNIST SCUM work niyad 10 hrs ago #49
Per Blanche, there will be NO INVESTIGATION Leghorn21 10 hrs ago #54
Fine, he is now an accessory to premeditated murder. SonOfNebanaube 2 hrs ago #90
Money grubbing psychopath works, too. littlemissmartypants 10 hrs ago #55
Let's hope so VGuerra276 10 hrs ago #56
He hasn't been charged or convicted with a crime. He has a strong case, but it would increase the backlash against ICE Doodley 10 hrs ago #57
"Discovery" would be a wonderful process... ret5hd 10 hrs ago #58
oh, btw Homan...you're a murderer too. ret5hd 9 hrs ago #59
If you don't want to be called a murderer... liberalla 9 hrs ago #60
We calls it the way it is UpInArms 9 hrs ago #61
Please do azureblue 9 hrs ago #66
Every text will be fair game Buckeyeblue 9 hrs ago #67
I was going to make a discovery comment, but I am pleased to see it is well covered. Norrrm 9 hrs ago #68
Prove you're not a murderer oswaldactedalone 8 hrs ago #70
You know, the best way to avoid being called a murderer Bettie 6 hrs ago #72
I really hate these stupid podcast declarations MorbidButterflyTat 6 hrs ago #73
Like it or not Greg_In_SF 6 hrs ago #74
It is fine to say the name of this murderer LetMyPeopleVote 6 hrs ago #75
It's not defamation if it's true. Ilsa 6 hrs ago #78
There is no dispute that Ross killed her, but murder is a specific crime MichMan 4 hrs ago #88
Sue who, killer? choie 5 hrs ago #80
What nerve!!! returnee 5 hrs ago #81
You Do That, Cold ICE Murdering ASSHOLE. Cha 5 hrs ago #87
Straight out of the Trump playbook Bristlecone 3 hrs ago #89
Oh fucking what??? Initech 2 hrs ago #92
Oh, please please do! struggle4progress 1 hr ago #94

TexasBushwhacker

(21,099 posts)
71. The TRUTH is an affirmative defense
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 03:24 PM
7 hrs ago

against defamation, and a civil lawsuit is decided on "a preponderance of evidence" NOT on "beyond a reasonable doubt". If he thinks put his hateful face in the press MORE is going to help his case

THINK AGAIN MOTHERFUCKER!

Just like when Trump called E. Jean Carroll a "liar" for revealing that he raped her years ago, all she had to do was show, via a "preponderance of evidence" that it's likely what she said was true. If Trump had simply STFU, the story would have eventually disappeared. This guy might have to move to his wife's home country of the Philippines. Good riddance!

DBoon

(24,775 posts)
45. He' murdered before and gotten away with it
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:55 AM
10 hrs ago

He has the arrogance of someone who thinks he is above the law

CincyDem

(7,323 posts)
62. He looked like a man who has fired a gun at another person before.
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 12:35 PM
9 hrs ago

Takes a special kind to do that so casually.

Botany

(76,480 posts)
6. Please file that law suit Mr.Ross. Joyce Vance, or Glen Kirschner or Kamala Harris might love that case.
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 10:02 AM
12 hrs ago

Hell let Joe Biden be the Attorney representing the Good Family.

This is the video of her being nice, this the video of her trying to avoid hitting the ice hole, here is the video of Ross shooting her from the side and then calling her a fucking bitch, here are the forensics of the path of the bullets.

mur·der·er
/ˈmərdərər/
noun
a person who commits murder; a killer.

Just the costs in a civil trial would be @ least 200 K.

jaymac

(264 posts)
29. maybe this is BS
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:29 AM
11 hrs ago

But I read somewhere yesterday that his ( ross's ) go-fund-me account had over a million bucks in it...........I certainly, fervently hope this is not accurate

so 200 k for a trial may be but a drop in the bucket...................OR one of those law firms who caved to the trumpie's demands for pro bono work for them ( early in the regime's days, remember that? ) would be called upon to do it........either way, they'll protect that scum like they did the scum Kyle Rittenhouse

underpants

(195,176 posts)
79. Money would come flowing in a la Rittenhouse and Zimmerman
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 04:41 PM
5 hrs ago

Remember that a lot of targets with Trayvon’s picture in them were sold.

Baitball Blogger

(51,784 posts)
8. Every move seems to be a copy-cat of Trump's strategies.
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 10:04 AM
12 hrs ago

First, a false or exaggerated claim was made over an internal bleeding injury, much like Trump's ear injury.

Then comes the lawsuit to throw people off. But what Ross doesn't seem to understand is that a countersuit would mean discovery. And, oh, wouldn't that be interesting to investigate his social media posts, once we demand the FBI to return his laptops?

newdeal2

(4,865 posts)
20. And he is not rich and powerful like Trump
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 10:34 AM
11 hrs ago

Trump will drop his support for Ross the minute it costs him a dollar.

maxrandb

(17,191 posts)
15. He's a murderer, murderer, murderer, murderer, murderer
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 10:18 AM
12 hrs ago

Murdering scumbag, piece of amphibian shit, nazi fuckstick.

LuvLoogie

(8,554 posts)
83. State sanctioned murderer, murderer, murderer...
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 05:01 PM
5 hrs ago

This tactic of their's was likely discussed on government email.

AZ8theist

(7,113 posts)
65. That's RIGHT!!!!
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 12:52 PM
9 hrs ago

I sued the internet once.

I won 14 Gajillion dollars.

(....having some trouble collecting, though...... )

GiqueCee

(3,472 posts)
22. Homan is...
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 10:50 AM
11 hrs ago

... a turd with a tie, and wrapped in a rancid sausage skin. He is utterly devoid of anything even remotely resembling common human decency. Which is to say, he's a Republican. Is his countenance so ugly because he's so mean-spirited, or is he so mean-spirited because he's so ugly?

Probatim

(3,223 posts)
24. Who is he going to sue?
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:17 AM
11 hrs ago

Everyone one social media who has called him a murderer?

I could have sworn republicants were against frivolous lawsuits.

SSJVegeta

(2,419 posts)
25. Wonder how many of these idiots actually know how lawsuits work?
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:22 AM
11 hrs ago

And what discovery is?

And I wonder why they dont ask themselves why Trump has never sued over accusations of being called a rapist -despite trying to sue for a million different reasons.

MichMan

(16,709 posts)
63. Except that Trump did sue for that, and ABC settled for $15 million plus $1 million in legal fees
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 12:43 PM
9 hrs ago
ABC and Stephanopoulos to pay Trump $15M, apologize in defamation suit settlement

ABC News and anchor George Stephanopoulos reached a settlement with President-elect Donald Trump on Saturday, with the network agreeing to issue an apology and pay a Trump-related foundation $15 million in addition to $1 million for Trump’s attorney fees.

The settlement, filed in federal court in Miami Saturday afternoon, marks a win for Trump, who sued the network and its star anchor for libel after Stephanopoulos said on air that Trump was found liable for the rape of writer E. Jean Carroll. Last year, a jury hearing a civil suit brought by Carroll found that Trump sexually abused and defamed her, but found Trump not liable for rape. Still, a federal judge in New York later ruled that it was accurate to say that Trump was found liable for rape in “common modern parlance.”



https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/14/trump-abc-stephanopoulos-settlement-00194391

SSJVegeta

(2,419 posts)
85. No. He sued a company over misreporting a judegement
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 05:07 PM
5 hrs ago

He never sued any of the individuals who said he raped them.

MichMan

(16,709 posts)
86. Defamation lawsuits aren't limited to victims of crimes
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 05:21 PM
5 hrs ago

Since someone claiming defamation for being labeled a murderer can't sue the victim, they can only go after others for how it was characterized. There is no distinction.

SSJVegeta

(2,419 posts)
91. I never said he didnt have any defamation lawsuits. I said he never sued anybody for calling him a rapist
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 08:23 PM
2 hrs ago

And he hasn't.

MichMan

(16,709 posts)
93. Correct
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 08:51 PM
1 hr ago

Stephanopoulos said "found liable for rape" which has a completely different meaning than calling someone a rapist.

SSJVegeta

(2,419 posts)
95. It is a legal judgement which he mischarized. Trump is still a rapist
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 10:31 PM
36 sec ago

Has practically admitted as much, and beyond legal technicalities has not actually contested this allegation.

Kid Berwyn

(23,229 posts)
26. It isn't libel, slander, or defamation...
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:23 AM
11 hrs ago

…because it’s true: Jonathan Ross murdered an innocent human being.

And to record his murder, Ross got out of his truck taping.

Mister Ed

(6,844 posts)
28. "Homan said he expects Ross to "'wait for this investigation to pan itself out'"?
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:25 AM
11 hrs ago
What investigation?

KPN

(17,149 posts)
31. What is it with this Homan jerk? Big tough guy thinks he's
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:34 AM
10 hrs ago

making us, someone, anyone quiver? What a frigging moron. He needs to be strung up by his balls when this is all said and done — on the public square while being tasered every 30 seconds or so just for giggles.

pandr32

(13,832 posts)
33. Sure, our upside-down, inside-out country starts new norm.
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:40 AM
10 hrs ago

People can sue for being accused of crimes they actually commit in full view with witnesses.
What a country!

ToxMarz

(2,773 posts)
34. It's defamation if you say something you KNOW to be false. It isn't if you believe what your saying to be true
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:41 AM
10 hrs ago

They would first have to somehow establish this is not a murderer and saying so is false (and it is completely valid that someone might believe what he did is muder based on what is publicly known and seen). Then going forward it would be defamation to say it knowing this is proven false. Anything said prior to this is not defamation if the speaker believed it to be true and reasonably so.

Katcat

(552 posts)
36. I wonder
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:42 AM
10 hrs ago

How he likes being a marked man? He’s getting the same treatment he gives other people.

Hope22

(4,497 posts)
38. Just following his dear leader.
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:44 AM
10 hrs ago

When T fell out of his mother his first cry was ‘I’ll sue you!’ We are surrounded by some very sick people. Good luck to us sorting this out. I’m all for Ross suing but he better be paying for his own attorneys!He can rest in jail while his case is pending!

flashman13

(2,095 posts)
40. Let's just say he sues. That means discovery and depositions. That process will be devastating for him.
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:47 AM
10 hrs ago

It will be a back door route to proving him a murderer.

So bring it on Jonathan Ross. The world awaits.

Farmer-Rick

(12,510 posts)
42. Oh, he wants to go after podcasters
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:53 AM
10 hrs ago

Liberal news info sites and protest leaders or political leaders.

"against individuals who labeled him a “murderer” online and in public remarks." Good luck with pursuing legal action for defamation against soooo many people.

He did murder her. The evidence is very clear.

DFW

(59,773 posts)
43. Where does he expect people to draw the line?
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:54 AM
10 hrs ago

Was he expecting the blogosphere to hail his uncanny skills as a faith healer?

C_U_L8R

(48,969 posts)
44. Executing a young mother with 4 shots to the head, for what?
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 11:54 AM
10 hrs ago

Ross is the very definition of a murderer.
A jury will agree.

underpants

(195,176 posts)
82. * I think there were 3 shots
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 05:01 PM
5 hrs ago

I’ve watched the videos enough and I pretty sure there were 3 shots. One was on her forearm which I’d guess was from the natural instinct to raise your arm or hand. 4 wounds from 3 shots. She was probably already dead from the first one through the windshield.

Fox News gave the best linkable summary I could find.


Good, 37, suffered two gunshot wounds to the right side of her chest, one to her left forearm and one "with protruding tissue on the left side of the patient’s head," according to the report. Blood was also flowing from her left ear, the report said.

Initial reports indicated Good had been shot three times during the Jan. 7 incident.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/renee-good-shot-four-times-including-head-fire-report-shows

Leghorn21

(14,026 posts)
54. Per Blanche, there will be NO INVESTIGATION
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 12:26 PM
10 hrs ago

BREAM: Is the FBI investigating the ICE agent who shot Renee Good?

BLANCHE: What happened has been reviewed by millions of Americans bc it was recorded. We investigate when it's appropriate. That is not the case here. We are not going to bow to pressure. So no, we are not investigating.

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-01-18T16:24:27.784Z

Doodley

(11,676 posts)
57. He hasn't been charged or convicted with a crime. He has a strong case, but it would increase the backlash against ICE
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 12:30 PM
10 hrs ago

]and Trump.

ret5hd

(22,241 posts)
58. "Discovery" would be a wonderful process...
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 12:31 PM
10 hrs ago

to put him thru…all that handheld camera work, all those tweets, all those emails, all those social media posts.

yeah, i dare ya’…double dog.

liberalla

(10,860 posts)
60. If you don't want to be called a murderer...
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 12:33 PM
9 hrs ago

DON'T MURDER PEOPLE


That's how you avoid your particular problem. See?

UpInArms

(54,154 posts)
61. We calls it the way it is
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 12:35 PM
9 hrs ago

Jonathan Ross is a murderer

He murdered Renee Good in cold blood … with what appeared to be premeditation and malice

azureblue

(2,686 posts)
66. Please do
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 12:57 PM
9 hrs ago

The defense's discovery phase will be very interesting.. Jon boy has some skeletons in his closet....

Bettie

(19,328 posts)
72. You know, the best way to avoid being called a murderer
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 03:32 PM
6 hrs ago

is to...not murder people.

Second: perhaps don't do it gleefully while everyone, including you, is filming the murder.

That might help.

Greg_In_SF

(896 posts)
74. Like it or not
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 03:57 PM
6 hrs ago

that's how defamation law works. It cost ABC $15 Million dollars.

Let the trial play out.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,483 posts)
75. It is fine to say the name of this murderer
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 04:20 PM
6 hrs ago


CBS: “Tell me about the officer, Jonathan Ross”.

Kristi Noem: “Don't say his name! I mean, for heaven's sake, we shouldn't have people continue to dox law enforcement”

JONATHAN ROSS
JONATHAN ROSS
JONATHAN ROSS
JONATHAN ROSS
JONATHAN ROSS
JONATHAN ROSS
JONATHAN ROSS
JONATHAN ROSS
JONATHAN ROSS

This is NOT doxxing!!!

MichMan

(16,709 posts)
88. There is no dispute that Ross killed her, but murder is a specific crime
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 05:53 PM
4 hrs ago

That is why the media is always careful to use the word "alleged"

I'm no legal expert, but if Ross hasn't been convicted, much less never charged, it would seem that would be the basis for his claim calling him a murderer isn't true.

Cha

(317,203 posts)
87. You Do That, Cold ICE Murdering ASSHOLE.
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 05:30 PM
5 hrs ago

Fucking *****.

Justice For Good ☮️🌺🌻🌸🕯️🕊️💜

Initech

(107,626 posts)
92. Oh fucking what???
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 08:25 PM
2 hrs ago

He's a fucking murderer and he's profiting handsomely from it. Fuck this guy to hell, and fuck Tom Homan.

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