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H2O Man

(78,733 posts)
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 02:46 PM 7 hrs ago

From Julie K. Brown

I’ve spoken to many women who have been sexually abused who will only speak off the record, meaning I can’t publish their account. They still feel the need to tell their stories and sometimes one person’s account, helps confirm another person’s account.

I’ve also spoken to many women who have gone public at great cost to their well-being. The accounts I’ve written about however, are mentioned in court documents, or have been subjected to rigorous vetting by lawyers, police or the media. In some cases, the victims have photographs, diaries or even appointment books that lend credibility to their truths.

I know survivors sometimes want to take their stories public on their own, on social media, or another platform, where they perhaps feel they have control of the story, instead of placing it in the hands of someone else.

Sascha Riley, a war veteran, has gone viral with recorded interviews that he gave to a “creator” who posted his horrifying story of sex trafficking involving a number of public figures whom he is accusing (and naming) of participating in or being complicit in a wider sex trafficking network involving Jeffrey Epstein. His allegations are extremely graphic and difficult to read, and can be triggering for trauma victims.

Although he has indicated he is willing to testify under oath and take a polygraph, and he says he has some documents that back up his account, the fact remains that his story has not been verified or fact checked before it was put online by a media creator.
Despite this, the story has gone viral, with many people believing, without proof, that it is true. I suspect that something horrible happened to this survivor, if in fact he is real.

As of now, I’ve seen nothing that corroborates this story.

As journalists, we work to verify a story. This is especially important for those accounts in which victims name their abusers. This protects journalists and survivors from being sued or discredited. It takes an enormous amount of time to confirm survivors’ accounts, especially since the victims’ memories often fade, and they do not always keep hard evidence from decades ago when the abuse happened.

Sometimes the person they are accusing of the abuse claims to have evidence that contradicts victims’ accounts, and that has to be checked out as well.

It hurts all survivors when one person stretches the truth or lies. I am not saying this happened in the Sasha Riley case (I repeat: I am not saying his account is untrue) but I am suggesting that the way it has been rolled out — without any verification — and clearly with a political spin — should be weighed when considering the veracity of the story.

For news consumers, one should ask the question “Was this story confirmed in any way?” — who is the person who is urging the victim to come forward? Does that person have experience with sexual assault victims? Does that person appear to have ulterior motives? Is that person using the victim for political purposes?

We all want to believe survivors. But promoting stories — especially those that haven’t been rigorously verified — does a disservice to all the other victims who have worked so tirelessly to be believed.

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From Julie K. Brown (Original Post) H2O Man 7 hrs ago OP
DURec leftstreet 7 hrs ago #1
Thank you. H2O Man 7 hrs ago #2
Thanks for posting leftstreet 7 hrs ago #3
That she is! H2O Man 5 hrs ago #13
Virginia Giuffre testified that Sascha Riley's father showed up at her home to pressure her into silence Autumn 7 hrs ago #4
Thank you! H2O Man 7 hrs ago #6
I gather his stuff has been out there for a while and he has named names. Autumn 7 hrs ago #8
It seems that H2O Man 6 hrs ago #11
No one is suing him JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #5
Good memory! H2O Man 7 hrs ago #7
I still have a copy JustAnotherGen 5 hrs ago #14
Many years ago, H2O Man 4 hrs ago #15
Also: H2O Man 7 hrs ago #9
Which has absolutely nothing to do with Sascha Riley. Wiz Imp 4 hrs ago #16
You are wrong, of course. H2O Man 4 hrs ago #17
No, YOU need to read again. I am right and you are 100% wrong, OF COURSE! Wiz Imp 3 hrs ago #18
You have provided H2O Man 3 hrs ago #19
First thing I asked when I saw it on BlueSky: "can anyone investigate"? CousinIT 6 hrs ago #10
Right. H2O Man 6 hrs ago #12

H2O Man

(78,733 posts)
13. That she is!
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 04:47 PM
5 hrs ago

In a curious way, this reminds of a family gathering after my 2nd cousin's funeral. He was retired after a career in the FBI. I was sitting next to his son, also retired from the agency. I asked him if he thought that John Mark Karr, on his way from Thailand after confessing to the decade earlier murder of JonBenet Ramsey, was guilty. A big smile tugged on his face, and he said no, that in fact noone thought he was. He explained that things like this are conducted to distract attention from something a president & administration do not want the public to know. He said that when something seems too good to be true, it's not true, and this is especially true if it pings on one's emotions.

Autumn

(48,777 posts)
4. Virginia Giuffre testified that Sascha Riley's father showed up at her home to pressure her into silence
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 03:00 PM
7 hrs ago

H2O Man

(78,733 posts)
6. Thank you!
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 03:11 PM
7 hrs ago

Maybe it's just me, but if I'm at a social gathering where there is a turd in the punch bowl, it raises a few questions. Why exactly did someone take a dump in the punch bowl? Why does it smell so much like q-anon feces? And why, of why, is a yappy chihuahua insisting there is proof that this turd is required to quench party-goers thirst?

Autumn

(48,777 posts)
8. I gather his stuff has been out there for a while and he has named names.
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 03:22 PM
7 hrs ago

One person in particular, LG has been a staunch Trump supporter but has been rather silent since Riley's information mentioning him has come out. And that is one accusation I have no trouble believing.

H2O Man

(78,733 posts)
11. It seems that
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 03:36 PM
6 hrs ago

almost all republicans have been silent on the Epstein Pedo Files, except for one vote. Lindsey Graham is definitely a vile human being and a disgrace to the Senate. We all know this, regardless if one believes Riley.

JustAnotherGen

(37,639 posts)
5. No one is suing him
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 03:09 PM
7 hrs ago

That says something. It's like when the book You'll Never Make Love In This Town came out in the 1990's.

No one sued those women.

H2O Man

(78,733 posts)
7. Good memory!
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 03:19 PM
7 hrs ago

If there is or is not a case taken to civil court tends to depend on if a target has "deep pockets," and if damages can be documented. The four women from that book were thus not targets. "Jack Nicholson peed in my mouth" and "John Ritter screwed me for 9 hours" were of the same substance as what Ms. Brown was talking about.

JustAnotherGen

(37,639 posts)
14. I still have a copy
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 05:21 PM
5 hrs ago

Don't forget Sylvester Stallone and Vanna White. Also - Timothy Hutton likes to share.

H2O Man

(78,733 posts)
15. Many years ago,
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 05:39 PM
4 hrs ago

my late brother & I went to one of his friend's house to watch a fight. During the undercard, people wanted to watch some "Rocky" movie rather than actual live boxing. Of course, my brother & I immediately left. That 45 seconds of a Rocky movie is all that I have been forced to watch. I wish I could forget that Stallone exists!

H2O Man

(78,733 posts)
9. Also:
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 03:30 PM
7 hrs ago

For sake of accuracy, Alan Dershowitz did file a defamation suit against Virginia Giuffre.

Wiz Imp

(9,102 posts)
16. Which has absolutely nothing to do with Sascha Riley.
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 05:54 PM
4 hrs ago

The poster said: "No one is suing him". The "him" being Sascha Riley. Dershowitz filing a defamation suit against Virginia Giuffre is comppetely irrelevant to the point being made.

H2O Man

(78,733 posts)
17. You are wrong, of course.
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 06:11 PM
4 hrs ago

Perhaps you should read it again:

"No one sued those women."

Wiz Imp

(9,102 posts)
18. No, YOU need to read again. I am right and you are 100% wrong, OF COURSE!
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 06:49 PM
3 hrs ago

"It's like when the book You'll Never Make Love In This Town came out in the 1990's. No one sued those women. "

He was obviously referring to the women who wrote that book (which had nothing to do with Epstein). They made many allegations about famous Hollywood people in that book and they were never sued by any of them. I won't hold my breath waiting for you to admit you were completely wrong.

H2O Man

(78,733 posts)
19. You have provided
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 06:53 PM
3 hrs ago

a wonderful example of how unchained emotion prevents rational thought. I thank you for that. It is almost as nice as the person I was speaking with "recommended" the post that has you so upset!

CousinIT

(12,303 posts)
10. First thing I asked when I saw it on BlueSky: "can anyone investigate"?
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 03:34 PM
6 hrs ago

Is there any corroboration? I got nothing back.

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