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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFrom Julie K. Brown
Ive spoken to many women who have been sexually abused who will only speak off the record, meaning I cant publish their account. They still feel the need to tell their stories and sometimes one persons account, helps confirm another persons account.
Ive also spoken to many women who have gone public at great cost to their well-being. The accounts Ive written about however, are mentioned in court documents, or have been subjected to rigorous vetting by lawyers, police or the media. In some cases, the victims have photographs, diaries or even appointment books that lend credibility to their truths.
I know survivors sometimes want to take their stories public on their own, on social media, or another platform, where they perhaps feel they have control of the story, instead of placing it in the hands of someone else.
Sascha Riley, a war veteran, has gone viral with recorded interviews that he gave to a creator who posted his horrifying story of sex trafficking involving a number of public figures whom he is accusing (and naming) of participating in or being complicit in a wider sex trafficking network involving Jeffrey Epstein. His allegations are extremely graphic and difficult to read, and can be triggering for trauma victims.
Although he has indicated he is willing to testify under oath and take a polygraph, and he says he has some documents that back up his account, the fact remains that his story has not been verified or fact checked before it was put online by a media creator.
Despite this, the story has gone viral, with many people believing, without proof, that it is true. I suspect that something horrible happened to this survivor, if in fact he is real.
As of now, Ive seen nothing that corroborates this story.
As journalists, we work to verify a story. This is especially important for those accounts in which victims name their abusers. This protects journalists and survivors from being sued or discredited. It takes an enormous amount of time to confirm survivors accounts, especially since the victims memories often fade, and they do not always keep hard evidence from decades ago when the abuse happened.
Sometimes the person they are accusing of the abuse claims to have evidence that contradicts victims accounts, and that has to be checked out as well.
It hurts all survivors when one person stretches the truth or lies. I am not saying this happened in the Sasha Riley case (I repeat: I am not saying his account is untrue) but I am suggesting that the way it has been rolled out without any verification and clearly with a political spin should be weighed when considering the veracity of the story.
For news consumers, one should ask the question Was this story confirmed in any way? who is the person who is urging the victim to come forward? Does that person have experience with sexual assault victims? Does that person appear to have ulterior motives? Is that person using the victim for political purposes?
We all want to believe survivors. But promoting stories especially those that havent been rigorously verified does a disservice to all the other victims who have worked so tirelessly to be believed.
leftstreet
(38,991 posts)H2O Man
(78,733 posts)leftstreet
(38,991 posts)She's must-follow on X
H2O Man
(78,733 posts)In a curious way, this reminds of a family gathering after my 2nd cousin's funeral. He was retired after a career in the FBI. I was sitting next to his son, also retired from the agency. I asked him if he thought that John Mark Karr, on his way from Thailand after confessing to the decade earlier murder of JonBenet Ramsey, was guilty. A big smile tugged on his face, and he said no, that in fact noone thought he was. He explained that things like this are conducted to distract attention from something a president & administration do not want the public to know. He said that when something seems too good to be true, it's not true, and this is especially true if it pings on one's emotions.
Autumn
(48,777 posts)H2O Man
(78,733 posts)Maybe it's just me, but if I'm at a social gathering where there is a turd in the punch bowl, it raises a few questions. Why exactly did someone take a dump in the punch bowl? Why does it smell so much like q-anon feces? And why, of why, is a yappy chihuahua insisting there is proof that this turd is required to quench party-goers thirst?
Autumn
(48,777 posts)One person in particular, LG has been a staunch Trump supporter but has been rather silent since Riley's information mentioning him has come out. And that is one accusation I have no trouble believing.
H2O Man
(78,733 posts)almost all republicans have been silent on the Epstein Pedo Files, except for one vote. Lindsey Graham is definitely a vile human being and a disgrace to the Senate. We all know this, regardless if one believes Riley.
JustAnotherGen
(37,639 posts)That says something. It's like when the book You'll Never Make Love In This Town came out in the 1990's.
No one sued those women.
H2O Man
(78,733 posts)If there is or is not a case taken to civil court tends to depend on if a target has "deep pockets," and if damages can be documented. The four women from that book were thus not targets. "Jack Nicholson peed in my mouth" and "John Ritter screwed me for 9 hours" were of the same substance as what Ms. Brown was talking about.
JustAnotherGen
(37,639 posts)Don't forget Sylvester Stallone and Vanna White. Also - Timothy Hutton likes to share.
H2O Man
(78,733 posts)my late brother & I went to one of his friend's house to watch a fight. During the undercard, people wanted to watch some "Rocky" movie rather than actual live boxing. Of course, my brother & I immediately left. That 45 seconds of a Rocky movie is all that I have been forced to watch. I wish I could forget that Stallone exists!
H2O Man
(78,733 posts)For sake of accuracy, Alan Dershowitz did file a defamation suit against Virginia Giuffre.
Wiz Imp
(9,102 posts)The poster said: "No one is suing him". The "him" being Sascha Riley. Dershowitz filing a defamation suit against Virginia Giuffre is comppetely irrelevant to the point being made.
H2O Man
(78,733 posts)Perhaps you should read it again:
"No one sued those women."
Wiz Imp
(9,102 posts)"It's like when the book You'll Never Make Love In This Town came out in the 1990's. No one sued those women. "
He was obviously referring to the women who wrote that book (which had nothing to do with Epstein). They made many allegations about famous Hollywood people in that book and they were never sued by any of them. I won't hold my breath waiting for you to admit you were completely wrong.
H2O Man
(78,733 posts)a wonderful example of how unchained emotion prevents rational thought. I thank you for that. It is almost as nice as the person I was speaking with "recommended" the post that has you so upset!
CousinIT
(12,303 posts)Is there any corroboration? I got nothing back.
H2O Man
(78,733 posts)We should not abandon common sense.