Many people assume the holocaust could never happen again. How do we know it hasn't started already?

[Doodley]

How will we know if the people who are violently arrested without due process, separated from their loved ones, chained and shackled, treated as less than human, and deported from America to hellhole concentration camps in El Salvador, and soon in other nations, aren't going to be gassed to death?

[Scrivener7]

1. Doodley, I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering this.

[Johnny2X2X]

2. Been posting this here for a while

I know of no cases in history where what is happening in the US right now did not lead to the discovery of mass graves.

We have a secret police rounding people up with absolutely no oversight. They're above the legal system and answer to 1 man, and that man has spent years telling everyone who will listen that immigrants are animals, terrorists, rapists, and basically the cause to all of the country's problems. Furthermore, these people being rounded up are being shipped to secret prison camps with virtually no oversight whatsoever and these prison camps are getting bonuses for throughput.

[Doodley]

19. And some people think we can't compare to 1930s Germany. The hate among the far right is a tinderbox ready to ignite.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

3. Thought the same! In Nazi Germany citizens thought Jews were just being deported.

And what happened to the people who were at Alligator Alcatraz??? It’s being reported that they don’t know where any of them went.

[EdmondDantes_]

13. Historians doubt that Germans didn't know

I think the biggest reasons to think we haven't taken those steps are the Trump administration's incompetence would suggest they couldn't manage that, and that they leak like a sieve and we haven't gotten reporting on it.

[Doodley]

20. Nobody in the Trump regime needs to know or care about what happens when, what they see as vermin, is removed.

[Jack Valentino]

25. I see a lot of 'vermin' in the White House just now,

starting at the head of the snake, and moving its way down from there....

[LostOne4Ever]

26. Some didn't know

Many did know and tried to pretend it wasn’t happening:

[raccoon]

30. By the time that many of them did know, there wasn't much they could do about it. They would have been just shot or

sent to a camp themselves.

[mopinko]

4. so much cheaper to bury them.

more money for the profiteers.
yep yep.

[Kaleva]

5. Cambodia, Rwanda, Sudan, the Kurds, etc., etc

[Blue Full Moon]

6. What have they done with the homeless.

In the Epstein files, Hollywood producer Barry Josephson emailed Epstein: "I've been thinking a lot about that question that you asked bill gates 'how do we get rid of poor people as a whole'"

[rampartd]

28. 'how do we get rid of poor people as a whole'"

well you start with an economy that works for everyone, with equal justice under the law, and with programs to help housing education and health.

what is wrong with rese people?

[WarGamer]

7. The Nazi's started with 200 murders in 1934 of political opponents

I think your statement is hyperbolic.

The very anti-Trump ADL has come out recently saying comparisons of Trump to the holocaust "denigrates the memory of the 6 million and trivializes the horrific events of the Holocaust".

https://www.adl.org.il/en/news/adl-condemns-president-trumps-remarks/#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20rationalizing%20white,The%20American%20people%20deserve%20better.

These comparisons are ahistorical and somewhat ignorant tbh

[Tetrachloride]

8. i think we are in the tens of thousands by including

2016-2000 immigrants
and collateral damage in pandemic area

exact terminology I leave to others

[TheProle]

11. I agree that the OP is hyperbolic from where we sit now

but the "Never Again" bullshit never was...

Bangladesh Genocide up to 3 million
Cambodian Genocide up to 3 million
Blockade of Biafra 1million +

Stat tallying up those from African Civil Wars, and you easily get into the millions there as well.

[WarGamer]

12. You're right, of course...

We can open a 4000 year window and see a thousand genocides including the Romans vs the Jews which killed 30% of all Jews alive at the time...

[Doodley]

16. With all due respect, I'm asking a question. That isn't hyperbole.

[Doodley]

17. With all due respect, I'm asking a question. That isn't hyperbole.

[Doodley]

14. Who is comparing Trump to the holocaust? I've not seen that. Is he a fascist? Yes. An authoritarian? Yes. Is he

following the same playbook as Hitler in the 1930s in using nationalism, scapegoating minorities, the cult of personality, undermining norms and laws, and media, grabbing power, trying to silence critics, using violence against perceived enemies? Yes, and we don't know how far that will go. I married a Jew and honestly, to not recognize the similarities means we have not learned from the past.

[iemanja]

21. As far as the ADL is concerned, everything trivializes the Holocaust.

Rwanda, Gaza, the Congo, Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Guatemala, El Salvador, Cambodia, Armenia. The ADL doesn’t take a human rights stand on anything except anti-semitism.

Calling the ADL “very anti-Trump” is inaccurate. They have supported ICE deportations of Palestinians and, to my knowledge, have been mute on his current human rights abuses in the sense they have not denounced them.

[Initech]

9. Just remember - the Holocaust didn't start with the gas chambers.

That was the final step. We're way past the midway point on this.

[Doodley]

18. Thank you. Yes, we should not keep saying it will never happen, even as it comes closer and closer to that possibility.

[Initech]

23. Frank Zappa predicted it back in 1966:

[ananda]

10. Umm, how could we not know it hasn't started already?

Hmmm?

[Tree Lady]

15. True we have no idea what they

Are doing in the camps.

[Iggo]

22. I watched a short doc on YouTube over the weekend about Vichy France rounding up Jews for deportation to Germany.

Seems a lot like what’s going on in this country.

I’ll see if I can find it…

[Takket]

24. I keep saying on Here...

We are going to find mass graves behind the concentration camps no one is allowed in, when the camps are liberated. Many reports of deaths already and those are the reports that actually get out. You can’t tell me many more aren’t dying and just being buried out back.

[pnwest]

27. What do you think the empty warehouses are for

That ICE is buying up all over the place? Gotta put all the journalists, dissenters and brown people somewhere…

[Kaleva]

29. It's been happening all over the world ever since the end of WWII

Mostly nonwhites are the victims so it doesn’t get much attention.