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Jack White sums it up brilliantly (Original Post) spooky3 14 hrs ago OP
This was actually posted by Jack White? Wednesdays 14 hrs ago #1
Jack White Hates Trump. NT Happy Hoosier 13 hrs ago #6
Well said! bif 14 hrs ago #2
This message was self-deleted by its author spooky3 14 hrs ago #3
Here is a pdf that may be easier to read LetMyPeopleVote 13 hrs ago #4
Of course, doing all that would require canceling the Constitution. MineralMan 13 hrs ago #7
This is definitely not the time to rewrite the constitution. live love laugh 13 hrs ago #8
Indeed You Are Right about That. MineralMan 13 hrs ago #9
Then when is it time? paleotn 10 hrs ago #22
That would require a constitutional convention, not cancelling the Constitution. paleotn 11 hrs ago #13
How do you ensure that the convention will produce a Constitution MineralMan 11 hrs ago #16
Never said it was simple. Where'd that come from?? Just that a fall into anarchy and conflict wasn't inevitable. paleotn 10 hrs ago #21
Would it? Cirsium 10 hrs ago #17
Thanks for this. ShazzieB 12 hrs ago #12
Your wish is my command Cirsium 10 hrs ago #20
Must Read malaise 13 hrs ago #5
I don't have Threads. If you want more to see things live love laugh 12 hrs ago #10
You should be able to see it by refreshing this page. spooky3 12 hrs ago #11
I don't have threads either BaronChocula 11 hrs ago #14
Text Cirsium 10 hrs ago #19
I agree with everything he wrote JoseBalow 11 hrs ago #15
Text version Cirsium 10 hrs ago #18

Response to spooky3 (Original post)

MineralMan

(150,879 posts)
7. Of course, doing all that would require canceling the Constitution.
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 01:12 PM
13 hrs ago

Then, we'd need a new one, and who is going to create that?

What would happen would be a new Civil War.

Anyone who thinks that would be a good idea needs a head examination.

I'm sorry, but simplistic answers simply do not work.

Try again.

paleotn

(21,834 posts)
22. Then when is it time?
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 04:16 PM
10 hrs ago

You happy with the Electoral College? The fact that my state, VT, with less than 25% the population of freaking Brooklyn has the same power in the Senate as all of New York? The fact that the right to vote isn't inscribed, but up to your local legislature?

It wasn't a problem years ago as rational heads rarely exploit the flaws since doing so would be considered dishonorable and morally wrong. That's the "guard rails." If anything, this regime has shown that unwritten "guard rails" are an inevitable path to failure. We need walls inscribed in the document, not flimsy precedent. That takes a rewrite. You can either learn from past unpleasantness and fix it, or not and you can just keep reliving it over and over again. I'd rather not relive this abomination.

paleotn

(21,834 posts)
13. That would require a constitutional convention, not cancelling the Constitution.
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 02:35 PM
11 hrs ago

In my mind, it may be time for that. As we've seen the last 20 years, the document has some serious flaws.

MineralMan

(150,879 posts)
16. How do you ensure that the convention will produce a Constitution
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 03:13 PM
11 hrs ago

that meets your expectations. Who is in charge of the convention? How is it assembled?

See, it's not really all that simple, and it could easily turn out to be the best armed run the show. In fact, that would be very likely, I believe.

It's a big country with a broad mix of political ideas. I wouldn't count on such a convention to produce anything in particular.

First, you have to have some rules, but who makes those rules?

paleotn

(21,834 posts)
21. Never said it was simple. Where'd that come from?? Just that a fall into anarchy and conflict wasn't inevitable.
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 04:01 PM
10 hrs ago

There are means and methods. And perhaps the country is too big and the politics too broad to bridge. Personally, we shook off the dust of red America years ago and left them to the devils that possess them. Today, where I grew up feels like a foreign country. Honestly, I wouldn't mind all that much if we made it a foreign country. That's Putin's dream to balkanize America like the former Soviet Union, but these divisions predate him. Some might say they didn't go away after 1865. They just simmered for a century and a half.

Unless some means can be found to bridge this political divide and fix these constitutional flaws, I don't see any other way forward. We'll just continue to hobble along under a system that doesn't work anymore. From one sane administration to another lunatic and then back again. Maybe. If we're lucky. That's no way to run a country.

Cirsium

(3,672 posts)
17. Would it?
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 03:41 PM
10 hrs ago

I agree that reckless calls to “burn it all down” are dangerous. But it’s also dangerous to treat any use of constitutional accountability as equivalent to dismantling the Constitution itself. If lawful mechanisms can’t even be discussed without invoking collapse, that’s a problem in its own right.

I don’t agree that what’s being called for would require “canceling the Constitution.” Impeachment, indictment, prosecution, and even the 25th Amendment are all constitutional mechanisms. Using them may be contentious or politically difficult, but that’s not the same thing as tearing up the system. There’s a big difference between enforcing existing guardrails and abolishing them.

ShazzieB

(22,341 posts)
12. Thanks for this.
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 02:16 PM
12 hrs ago

It is easier to read, but still not very easy, due to the lack of paragraph breaks. I really appreciate the effort, though! #walloftext

live love laugh

(16,262 posts)
10. I don't have Threads. If you want more to see things
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 01:20 PM
12 hrs ago

like this in the future please try posting more than just the link.

Cirsium

(3,672 posts)
18. Text version
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 03:42 PM
10 hrs ago

This post would basically get anyone, at any job fired immediately...except for arguably the most important position in the world. That's right, trump is a racist, a rapist, a felon, a grifter (currently ordering the US govt. to pay him 10 billion dollars simply because no one will stop him.) and a full on dementia sufferer, and yet he has the power to send in gestapo ICE soldiers to kill our citizens, and so much more dangerously, has the nuclear codes and the ability to end humanity at any moment based on an egotistical whim.

How is it possible we've given this evil man so much power? The two party system, the electoral college, the responsibility that the internet has brought to humanity and its direct conflict with truth, and America's obsession with celebrity, are all to blame, but the fact that we aren't stopping it is...insanity. Arrest this man. Impeach this man. 25th amendment this man. Indict this man. Jail this man. This longtime friend of pedophile epstein, who appears 40 thousand times in the files. This demolisher of the White House, demolisher of the Constitution, demolisher of the Bill of Rights, this demolisher of America full stop.

It's hard to believe the government does almost nothing about this lunacy and we just all have to sit back and watch as a people. And when he's finally gone? we had better put into place new laws and regulations that don't allow anyone to find dangerous loopholes based solely on the assumption that our President has some sort of dignity and decency.

Abolish these loopholes, abolish the electoral college, and if we had any sense we would abolish the two party system (that George Washington advised us never to have) that got us here in the first place and has failed not only Americans, but everyone else in the world who is currently suffering from our policies and suffering from the whims of this sick, deranged man who I will state again, has his tiny, bruised fingers on the nuclear launch button.

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