Transcript: Sen.Van Hollen/Lutnick and Epstein's interest in the nanny.
Why did the Epstein files show you
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coordinating a meeting and planning a
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visit with Jeffrey Epstein on his
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private island in December 2012?
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Thank you for the question. I'm glad to
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be here to make it clear that I met
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Jeffrey Epstein when he moved when I
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moved to a house next door to him in New
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York. Right. And uh I met him then. Over
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the next 14 years, I met him two other
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times that I can recall. Two times and
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that is none for six years. So, six
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years later, I met him and then a year
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and a half after that I met him and
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never again. Probably the total and
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you've seen all of these documents of
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these millions and millions of
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documents. There may be 10 emails
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connecting me with him. probably about
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10 emails connecting me with him. Over a
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14-year period, I did not have any
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relationship with him. I barely had
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anything to do with that person. Okay.
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Secretary Lutnik, um
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I think you understand the root of
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concern here. It's the way you described
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very emphatically your first encounter
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with him in his apartment. Said you were
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disgusted, would never have any contact
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with him again. Did you in fact make the
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visit to Jeffrey Epstein's private
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island?
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I did have lunch with him as I was on a
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boat going across on a family vacation.
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My wife was with me as were my four
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children and nannies. I had another
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couple with they were there as well with
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their children and we had lunch on the
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island. That is true for an hour and we
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left with all of my children with my
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nannies and my wife all together. We
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were on family vacation. We were not
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apart. to suggest there was anything
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unoured about that in 2012.
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I don't I don't recall why we did it.
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But
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Mr. Secretary, again, I as I said,
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there's not an indication that you
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yourself engaged in any wrongdoing with
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Jeffrey Epstein. It's the fact that you
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believe that you misled the country and
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the Congress based on your earlier
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statements suggesting that you'd cut off
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all contact when in fact you had not.
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When you visited the private island, did
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you see anything inappropriate during
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that visit?
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The only thing I saw with my wife and my
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children and the other couple uh and
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their children was staff who worked for
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Mr. Epstein on that island.
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And you realize that, you know, this
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this visit took place after he had been
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convicted, right? I mean, you made a a
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very big point of saying that you sensed
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that this was a bad person in 2005 and
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then of course in 2008 he was convicted
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of soliciting prostitution of a minor
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and and yet you went and had this trip
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and other interactions. Did you have a
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dinner in Epstein's New York City home
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in 2011?
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No.
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So, the information that suggests that
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there was a dinner with Woody Allen and
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Woody Allen's spouse at the Epstein
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residence, that's that's there's nothing
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to that. Is that right?
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I actually don't know what you're
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referring to. There was Look, I I looked
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through the uh millions of documents for
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my name just like everybody else. And
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what I found was there was a document
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that says that I had a meeting with him
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on uh in May I think uh for an hour for
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at 5:00.
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Okay.
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Not dinner or otherwise for an hour at
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5:00.
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All right. There's also a reference to
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the fact that Epstein had expressed an
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interest in meeting your nanny.
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Do you know whether Jeffrey Epstein ever
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met with your nanny?
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No, I saw that. I had no idea what that
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was about. Had nothing to do with me
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involved with him on that.
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No, as far as I know.
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Would you, Mr. Secretary, be willing to
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ensure that the file is complete to
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share with this committee and the
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Congress your own records, any records
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you have that relate to Jeffrey Epstein?
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I will surely talk about that. I hadn't
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thought about that. I I have nothing to
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hide. Absolutely nothing.
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Hmmm. Interesting comment, that he had to look through the documents for his name...JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DID. Well, no Howard, not EVERYONE had to franticly look for their name in the Epstein files, you prick.
There was Look, I I looked through the uh millions of documents for my name just like everybody else.
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