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bigtree

(93,819 posts)
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 04:02 PM Friday

$1,700 refund per family for the people since Trump tariffs were ruled unconstitutional

Sam Stein @samstein 16m
Gov. Pritzker demands a $1,700 refund per family for the people of Illinois after Trump's tariffs were ruled unconstitutional


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$1,700 refund per family for the people since Trump tariffs were ruled unconstitutional (Original Post) bigtree Friday OP
It would be nice MustLoveBeagles Friday #1
We'll never see it. Ritabert Friday #2
I dunno bigtree Friday #7
You could be right. I wouldn't mind it. Ritabert Friday #17
Trump will get around to it in 2 weeks. Beartracks 19 hrs ago #21
tariff refunds could be a 2026 campaign flashpoint bigtree Friday #5
They get Dems out there saying they'll vote for a refund for each person harmed by this shit Bengus81 Friday #11
Refunding would be an absolute nightmare. paleotn Friday #13
Not that hard to figure out COGs increases WA-03 Democrat Friday #19
Good points all. Beartracks 19 hrs ago #22
"the best course is just apply it to the gapping hole that is this year's federal budget" Strelnikov_ 19 hrs ago #23
Any properly managed business drray23 18 hrs ago #24
Trump has really stepped in it. Tangible numbers that every household can understand. bucolic_frolic Friday #3
he would have been better off just shutting it over this bigtree Friday #9
That would be illegal. WarGamer Friday #4
They passed those tariffs right on down the line to consumers. Let's see them prove they didn't Bengus81 Friday #12
Exactly. It should be relatively easy to refund Bluetus Friday #15
SCOTUS explicitly said today the refund MUST be to the importer of record. WarGamer Friday #18
I understand what you are saying. Political punches don't have to be logical. Bluetus 15 hrs ago #25
You Said That Yesterday ProfessorGAC 14 hrs ago #27
You're right... I was recollecting studies from mid 25 WarGamer 14 hrs ago #28
They'd get $1700 worth of CryptoTrump Coins. Buns_of_Fire Friday #6
that would be wild bigtree Friday #8
You should always date your letters. Good to cc: Legal Dept too. twodogsbarking Friday #10
And a CC: to some reputable news outlets - ProPublica, The Guardian, ... erronis Friday #14
Damn straight Governor. Evolve Dammit Friday #16
I'd rather see immediate repeal of the MAGA Murder Budget pat_k Friday #20
Should be choices for a refund, like itemizing or standard deduction in taxes OC375 15 hrs ago #26

bigtree

(93,819 posts)
7. I dunno
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 04:32 PM
Friday

...he's in a box.

He's going to fight the refunds to businesses in court, but he may want to try and make an election-eve gesture to the American people in the form of following through on his promise of the $2k, especially if he's contiunuing his fiction about the amount they're raising for the Treasury.

It's all a political play, complete with so much smoke and so many mirrors, that it's sort of credible to expect the untenable or the abberation from this WH.

Given that republicans are forecasting a rocky road to defeat in the midterms, it's as likely as the Covid stimulus checks were from the president who was denying there was a problem.

bigtree

(93,819 posts)
5. tariff refunds could be a 2026 campaign flashpoint
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 04:19 PM
Friday
Scott Lincicome @scottlincicome (VP CATO Inst.)
Tariff refunds could be THE fight of 2026 - & a major political flashpoint, too. The US govt illegally collected ~$175 BILLION from US firms, often w/ little notice (& ALWAYS w/ no input). And these taxes harmed the smallest firms most.
If they don't willingly pay it back... 🤬


12:30 PM · Feb 20, 2026

Bengus81

(9,999 posts)
11. They get Dems out there saying they'll vote for a refund for each person harmed by this shit
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 05:17 PM
Friday

once they have a majority again.

paleotn

(21,934 posts)
13. Refunding would be an absolute nightmare.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 05:21 PM
Friday

Businesses trying to figure out how much tariff they've paid above normal levels. In some cases, it's next to impossible. Many of their suppliers merely slap a percentage on every invoice to cover tariff exposure. Few go to the trouble of passing it on in a detailed manner, i.e., this amount of tariff applies to these purchased widgets.

Though I'd like to see refunds all around, the best course is just apply it to the gapping hole that is this year's federal budget thanks to Shitler's tax cuts for the wealth. Sucks, but that's the path of least resistance and that's why that will probably be the path.

AND....I don't want Shitler refunding anything and getting credit for it. He got his hand slapped. I want it to stay that way.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,345 posts)
19. Not that hard to figure out COGs increases
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 06:40 PM
Friday

on existing items it’s Jan 2025 vs. Jan 2026. Yes totally agree it is a problem he create and should get no credit for solving it.

Strelnikov_

(8,136 posts)
23. "the best course is just apply it to the gapping hole that is this year's federal budget"
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 02:31 PM
19 hrs ago

Agree.

The people who paid the tariff's are also responsible for the national debt . . . us.

Refunds would be nice, but will devolve into a grift for the well connected.

drray23

(8,681 posts)
24. Any properly managed business
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 03:12 PM
18 hrs ago

Can figure it out down to the cent. If you have integrated inventory, supplies, sales systems , etc.. you can make it spit out these numbers.
Smaller businesses may not have that capability

bucolic_frolic

(54,676 posts)
3. Trump has really stepped in it. Tangible numbers that every household can understand.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 04:14 PM
Friday

That will carry all the way to election day, along with how the issue of ICE has been decided in voters minds.

GOPee has a hard road ahead.

bigtree

(93,819 posts)
9. he would have been better off just shutting it over this
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 04:37 PM
Friday

...and take some credit for the softening of the harm he's done to the economy, or stick with the theme he started with today about the loss of the tariffs harming the economy.

But he's out there immediately bragging about imposing even more costly ones for businesses and basically just owning the shitty economy instead.

WarGamer

(18,380 posts)
4. That would be illegal.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 04:18 PM
Friday

Court decided that since the tariffs were illegal, the money was owed back to the importer of record... the government has no right to disburse that money other than to the importers.

unfortunately the only one receiving a windfall will be... WalMart, Target and Dollar Tree and 99c Store

Bengus81

(9,999 posts)
12. They passed those tariffs right on down the line to consumers. Let's see them prove they didn't
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 05:18 PM
Friday

Because they can't....................

Bluetus

(2,568 posts)
15. Exactly. It should be relatively easy to refund
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 05:55 PM
Friday

to the importers of record. But to the extent that they passed those costs along to others, therein lies the rub.

But that's not our problem. Trump created this mess. Dems should be demanding a full clawback of all illegal tariffs.

And if MAGA people complain that they actually paid the tariffs and should get the refund, well, we tried to warn you.

I see that Pritzker is taking a different angle, demanding the total tariff collection be refunded to individuals, not importers. Maybe that is the smarter political position, because that goes straight to the point that consumers paid 90% of the tariff. Only 10% was absorbed by importers/retailers

WarGamer

(18,380 posts)
18. SCOTUS explicitly said today the refund MUST be to the importer of record.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 06:30 PM
Friday

I don't know how they'd pay that to consumers.

Articles that I read said that major importers like WalMart only passed on around 50% of the tariff costs...

I don't know if there's a way to refund end consumers... theoretically it would have to come from the importer, like WalMart... which will NEVER happen.

Bluetus

(2,568 posts)
25. I understand what you are saying. Political punches don't have to be logical.
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 06:15 PM
15 hrs ago

Pritzker's tactic rubs MAGA's node in this problem. Of course, there is no easy way to refund to the consumers that actually paid the tariff.

But that is not our problem. The Pritzker message is basically, "Trump made ordinary people pay the Trump tax. Retailers like Amazon and Wal*mart mostly passed on the tariffs to the customer, but now the Supreme Court says that Amazon and Wal*mart should eat their money back, but they don't have to refund you when they passed the Trump tariff on to you? WTF?"

Put them on the defensive. It isn't our problem to figure out. Republicans and Trump created this mess. Make them own it.

ProfessorGAC

(76,317 posts)
27. You Said That Yesterday
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 06:51 PM
14 hrs ago

I'm still not being it.
Reputable studies have shown the consumer bore between 91 & 93% of the tariff burden.
So, Walmart, Target,....did not bear the costs. They took revenue based upon an illegal surcharge and could logically be expecred to return those unwarranted margins.
It would ge more efficient to return the money directly to the consumers that bore the brunt of this illegitimate surcharge.
You keep saying it's illegal as if there is some precedent that establishes a law. There isn't.
It's all moot anyway.
$175 billion isn't enough to pay every household $1,700. It's around $50 billion short.

WarGamer

(18,380 posts)
28. You're right... I was recollecting studies from mid 25
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 07:37 PM
14 hrs ago
According to a meta-analysis by Cato and the Yale Budget Lab (released in February 2026), there was a significant shift in who paid as the year 2025 progressed:

June 2025 (The "Absorption" Phase): Studies found that only about 22% to 35% of costs had reached consumers. At that time, 64% of the burden was being eaten by the U.S. companies (importers) themselves through lower profit margins.

Late 2025 (The "Pass-Through" Phase): By October/November, those same researchers found the consumer share had jumped to 55%, and the importer's share had dropped to 27%.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,083 posts)
6. They'd get $1700 worth of CryptoTrump Coins.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 04:29 PM
Friday

Redeemable only at TrumpCrap dot com, for all your favorite crap from your favorite crappy "president". Shipping and handling extra on all items. (Shipping and handling charges are payable in $USD only, as mandated in EO 260220-687.)

erronis

(23,324 posts)
14. And a CC: to some reputable news outlets - ProPublica, The Guardian, ...
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 05:35 PM
Friday

A few overseas outside of the reach of these crooks.

pat_k

(12,902 posts)
20. I'd rather see immediate repeal of the MAGA Murder Budget
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 07:53 PM
Friday

That horror show was built on collection of something like 5 trillion in tariffs.

Time to repeal the whole fucking thing and start over without that assumption.

Now that people are feeling some of the outrageous cuts in healthcare, snap, etc., and seeing the beginning of the consequences of obscene increase in ice funding, I think a movement to repeal would gain steam quickly.

The house of cards collapses when you pull out the absurd tariff assumptions

OC375

(604 posts)
26. Should be choices for a refund, like itemizing or standard deduction in taxes
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 06:27 PM
15 hrs ago

Any transactions of consequence these days are electronic at some point. Really easy to produce receipts for furniture, car parts,. building materials, appliances, etc... especially if tariffs were added to established pricing. A lot of people lost a whole pile more than $1700 on this boondoggle, especially if you had "life" happen and needed to make major repairs or replacements. There was a lot more impacted that just multiple $1 gouges accrued buying stuff off Amazon or a new iPhone..

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