It's not a question what Israel had on Trump to drag him down this path.

[Baitball Blogger]

It's how many ways did Israel have to pull him into shedding American blood?

It's rebuilding Gaza. Giving Trump support to rebuild Gaza was a huge incentive. And the fact that American soldiers are going to die to give Kushner clearance to build condos on this land is just crazy.

And then, there's the Epstein files. Israel must have had the same intel on Trump as anyone else. So more blackmail info.

Then, there's the midterm elections. It's in Netanyahus interest as much as Trump's that they put an end to our right to vote.

Please, dear God. We need level heads to put an end to this.

[Layzeebeaver]

1. Don't count out the Israeli lobby and the Christian rught

They all want war. Because… one doesn’t care about Jesus and the other wants him to come again…

[yardwork]

2. Why blame Israel?

Maybe Trump is dragging them down this path.

Trump does plenty of evil stupid things on his own.

[gab13by13]

3. No one is blaming Israel,

Bibi is being blamed.

[yardwork]

9. Reread the OP.

[allegorical oracle]

24. Both men are using this to evade other matters. With djt it's Epstein; with Bibi, it's avoiding

the resumption of a trial that's been hanging over him for more than a year.

[AloeVera]

31. There was no trial 25 years ago.

What was his excuse then in egging the U.S. towards war? Or 30+ years ago when he started demonizing Iran with the nukes bullshit?

It's a serious misreading of Israeli politics and IDEOLOGY to think this is only about his trial. Trump is already working on having him exonerated.

Nope, Neanyahu's goals are the old Zionist goals of establishing Greater Israel and eliminating the last remaining threats in the region. At any cost. Gaza paid a very high price for Hamas not understanding that fact. Now it's Iran's turn.

[Intractable]

25. I was born Jewish.

You reread the op.

[marybourg]

4. It's traditional to blame the Jews.

And the tradition is being upheld on DU.

[PufPuf23]

6. A majority of the Jews are victims of the war mongers and ultra-nationalists too.

It is dishonest to conflate all Jews with the actions and motivations of current Israeli leadership.

[Wednesdays]

7. Not all Jews. Just one.

See post #3.

[yardwork]

11. Reread the OP.

[Wednesdays]

14. Yes, there was one Jewish person named there.

Well, two if you include Kushner.

Are there others I missed?

[yardwork]

16. Read the subject line of the OP out loud.

[Wednesdays]

20. We need to ask the OP if they meant "all Jews, everywhere"

I took it to mean the Israeli government. I absolve everyone else.

On edit, to be clear: when I say, "Israeli government," I mean only those higher-ups who make military decisions. My MIL worked for the U.S. government: the IRS (a regular desk job), and it would be absurd for me to blame her for military actions taken by the U.S. government.

[Baitball Blogger]

28. See reply No. 18.

[Intractable]

26. It's not just Bibi. It's a whole political party and movement.

[Baitball Blogger]

8. Every news source across the seas and in the US

Hard right, centrist and the left wing media are referring to the strikes as US-Israel strikes.

[yardwork]

10. But that's not what you wrote.

[Baitball Blogger]

18. The ugly fact is that Netanyahu is the driving force in Israel.

And I'm guessing that it's easier for the media to say, "US-Israel strikes" than it is to say "US and Netanyahu controlled Israel strikes."

Which is to say, that people don't just automatically blame the Jews as the poster stated. What happens is that leaders find cover by the countries they lead. And, just as "Israel" will be used to describe the aggressor, instead of the longer, more accurate description as I stated above, so will we be marked as the aggressor. i.e., instead of saying, Trump attacked Iran, many foreigners will be saying it's an American strike.

Clear as mud.

[marybourg]

21. The real ugly fact is that Israel's very existence is constantly at stake.

Israel is a tiny sliver of a country surrounded by much larger hostile countries. One miscalculation can end its very existence. Unlike an attack on the United States, there is no margin of error for Israel. It cannot absorb a major blow. It’s been like this since the very beginning.

[Baitball Blogger]

22. "One miscalculation can end its very existence."

You said it. Not me. This strike is a major miscalculation.

[marybourg]

23. You may of course be right. Time will tell.

[AloeVera]

33. It's sadly amusing to me how the trurh gets twisted when it comes to Israel.

Nope.

It's not Netanyahu. It's Israel.

Israelis elected him.

They overwhelmingly supported the "war" on Gaza. Turned a blind eye to all the suffering there.

They support the ethnic cleansing of Gaza (delayed, but still the goal - it's coming).

They even want their Palestinian neighbours who are citizens of Israel to leave. Not just the "Arabs" - as they call them - in the West Bank.

I'm wiling to bet that now they support, likely by a majority, this unprovoked, illegal assault on Iran. For "security".

Those who back down on naming the true aggressor or naming the problem - the STATE of Israel - are enabling ISRAEL'S continued immunity for its vile actions against its neighbours and those it continues to occupy and oppress - genocide even. It has to stop.

Just my two cents fwiw.

Thank you for this o/p.

[3_Limes]

30. Thos is important- blaming the political state of Israel for legitimate transgressions is NOT anti-semitic.

Zionists have worked hard for decades to chain the two together, and we need to fight just as hard to make sure the distinction is clear to all.

[Skittles]

34. OMG

please STOP

[yardwork]

39. Then stop.

Stop working on behalf of the Republican Party to shift blame from them to some outside country.

[Skittles]

40. NEWSFLASH

it wasn't just the American greedy old pigs bombing Iran

DONE here

[Baitball Blogger]

5. Just like the US, Israel is being led by a megalomaniac.

[AloeVera]

12. Height of naivety to think Israel and its lobby - and Trump's donors - are not behind this.

Or something.

It's Israel's right-wing and Likud's wet dream of decades come true. Netanyahu being "dragged into this"? LOL. LOL.

Now Trump gets something out of it too.

btw did you hear about the girls' elementary school being bombed? Are we gonna hear about "human shields" now?

[yardwork]

15. "Or something."

It's "the height of naivety" to assume that Israel is pulling all the strings. Trump and his donors - which include many more than Israel - do evil stupid things all day.

Israel and Trump did this together but instead of blaming Trump (and everyone who voted for him) this OP puts all the blame on Israel.

Seems foolish to me. And unlike you I see nothing to "lol...lol" about in this situation.

[AloeVera]

27. Do you blame Israel too - or just Trump? Nt

[yardwork]

38. I blame Netanyahu and Trump.

I don't blame Israel or America. Although we are both, arguably, to blame for allowing election of them.

The biggest problem with blaming Israel or anybody else is that it lets Trump and the Republicans off the hook.

They'll try to blame this on outside forces and avoid responsibility.

[sarisataka]

17. It is an old trope

dating back to the 1930s in the US, but older elsewhere

[intheflow]

19. Israel is a modern nation-state as well as an

ethnic-religious based country. The OP is obviously referring to the government. If they were “blaming the Jews,” they would have written “Trump is working with the Jews” instead of referring to Israel and continuing on to call out Netanyahu. imho

[Initech]

13. Fuck Netanyahu. He needs to be cut off completely.

No American money or troops should go to his illegal genocide. He should be rotting in prison with Trump.

[The Roux Comes First]

29. From Where I Sit, Almost the Only Critters on Earth Who Seem to Lack "Leverage" (As in Blackmail)

Over this corrupt insecure infant are the American people who don't adorn themselves with red ballcaps.

[Javaman]

35. You can bet your ass they have a full copy of ALL the Epstein files nt

[Deep State Witch]

36. I Don't Think

That they had to pull very hard. He wanted to do this shit last time around, and smarter people talked him out of it.

[ananda]

37. THere is no question. Trump is enjoying all this.

He's been itching for war and bloodshed for a long time.