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Eko

(9,911 posts)
1. Prob about the same as
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 02:33 AM
8 hrs ago

The voters that thought we didnt address their concerns in any substantive way and the voters that could have cared less about their concerns and still use the fact that dump won to bash them. Pretty shitty is the answer.

W_HAMILTON

(10,286 posts)
3. Don't excuse their part in helping bring about this disaster.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 04:00 AM
7 hrs ago

They have agency.

They are (presumably) grown adults.

Given the choice between THIS and the one person that could have stopped all of this from ever happening, they made the decision that led to this.

They fucked up yet again and their idiotic short-sightedness has resulted in the world being much worse off.

I don't want to hear ANY excuses for them. There are none that can justify what they have allowed to happen.

Eko

(9,911 posts)
4. I'm not excusing it.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 04:04 AM
7 hrs ago

Just like I'm not excusing the people who thought their concerns about the Gaza war were trivial and didn't address it. And if you want to talk about short sidedness then I wonder if the people that didn't let the Palestinians speak at the DNC regret that. What do you think?

W_HAMILTON

(10,286 posts)
6. If a speaker at a political convention would have caused them to vote in a way that would have prevented this madness...
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 04:15 AM
6 hrs ago

... they're even fucking dumber than i thought.

I don't even think they would dare make the argument that innocent lives were worth sacrificing over a political convention so I don't know why you are trying to make it for them.

Eko

(9,911 posts)
8. This is just too funny. I think you are making my case for me.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 04:25 AM
6 hrs ago

You are right though, they weren't thinking about innocent lives being lost in a war, not at all.

Or maybe you should rethink that.
They and me were making the argument that innocent lives being lost in a current war were worth standing up for and the DNC didn't want to platform them at all.

Eko

(9,911 posts)
9. Even Harris seemed to think that they should have done more.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 04:31 AM
6 hrs ago
"We should have done more as an administration," Harris said at the event, adding "we should have spoken publicly about our criticism" of how Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu executed the war.
Harris said in her book that President Biden's unpopularity, which she argued was partly because of "his perceived blank check" to Netanyahu, harmed her in 2024.
Harris wrote that she privately "pleaded" with Biden to show more empathy for civilians in Gaza. But during her campaign, she declined to publicly break with him over Israel.

https://www.axios.com/2026/02/22/dnc-2024-autopsy-harris-gaza

betsuni

(28,954 posts)
12. Someone didn't get to give a speech so they all threw in the towel, caved, gave up, folded, stopped fighting,
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 06:29 AM
4 hrs ago

allowed Trump to take power, became complicit and part of the true roadblock to progress, did not meet the moment.

In an all-or-nothing pseudo morally pure world, nothing is fine. Fuck everyone else.

LeftInTX

(34,050 posts)
5. They didn't show up at the ICE protest today!
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 04:11 AM
7 hrs ago

The ICE protest was a nice "faith based" crowd.

The genocide Joe crowd was busy protesting the Iran strikes with their ugly, angry signs.

JI7

(93,451 posts)
10. The genocide Joe crowd are anti liberal. They are aligned with people like Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 06:11 AM
5 hrs ago

LeftInTX

(34,050 posts)
11. Not here. They're with the Party for Socialism and Liberation. Backed by Putin.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 06:15 AM
4 hrs ago

They've infilitrated the local Democratic Party too. (We keep warning our party chair, but she doesn't listen..sigh)
They're also involved with No Kings and partner with Indivisible. The thing is NO ONE seems to remember them as the "Genocide Joe" crowd. But I sure do!

They crashed the DNC in 2024.

They had their own presidential candidate. But they also supported Jill Stein and Cornell West. Anyone but Kamala.

ITAL

(1,303 posts)
15. I mean they're still angry
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 08:35 AM
2 hrs ago

I read their stuff all the time and they obviously hate Trump and what he's doing. But they're the true blood, true believers that think you need to be with them 100% on all issues, and that Biden and Harris were hopelessly compromised corporate neoliberals that deserved their fate.

It's extremely frustrating to read them.

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