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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTo the genocide Joe and Kamala voters, how is that working out for you?
Eko
(9,911 posts)The voters that thought we didnt address their concerns in any substantive way and the voters that could have cared less about their concerns and still use the fact that dump won to bash them. Pretty shitty is the answer.
W_HAMILTON
(10,286 posts)They have agency.
They are (presumably) grown adults.
Given the choice between THIS and the one person that could have stopped all of this from ever happening, they made the decision that led to this.
They fucked up yet again and their idiotic short-sightedness has resulted in the world being much worse off.
I don't want to hear ANY excuses for them. There are none that can justify what they have allowed to happen.
Eko
(9,911 posts)Just like I'm not excusing the people who thought their concerns about the Gaza war were trivial and didn't address it. And if you want to talk about short sidedness then I wonder if the people that didn't let the Palestinians speak at the DNC regret that. What do you think?
W_HAMILTON
(10,286 posts)... they're even fucking dumber than i thought.
I don't even think they would dare make the argument that innocent lives were worth sacrificing over a political convention so I don't know why you are trying to make it for them.
Eko
(9,911 posts)You are right though, they weren't thinking about innocent lives being lost in a war, not at all.
Or maybe you should rethink that.
They and me were making the argument that innocent lives being lost in a current war were worth standing up for and the DNC didn't want to platform them at all.
Eko
(9,911 posts)Harris said in her book that President Biden's unpopularity, which she argued was partly because of "his perceived blank check" to Netanyahu, harmed her in 2024.
Harris wrote that she privately "pleaded" with Biden to show more empathy for civilians in Gaza. But during her campaign, she declined to publicly break with him over Israel.
https://www.axios.com/2026/02/22/dnc-2024-autopsy-harris-gaza
betsuni
(28,954 posts)allowed Trump to take power, became complicit and part of the true roadblock to progress, did not meet the moment.
In an all-or-nothing pseudo morally pure world, nothing is fine. Fuck everyone else.
flvegan
(66,135 posts)yardwork
(69,200 posts)LeftInTX
(34,050 posts)The ICE protest was a nice "faith based" crowd.
The genocide Joe crowd was busy protesting the Iran strikes with their ugly, angry signs.
JI7
(93,451 posts)LeftInTX
(34,050 posts)They've infilitrated the local Democratic Party too. (We keep warning our party chair, but she doesn't listen..sigh)
They're also involved with No Kings and partner with Indivisible. The thing is NO ONE seems to remember them as the "Genocide Joe" crowd. But I sure do!
They crashed the DNC in 2024.
They had their own presidential candidate. But they also supported Jill Stein and Cornell West. Anyone but Kamala.
617Blue
(2,305 posts)MineralMan
(151,038 posts)ITAL
(1,303 posts)I read their stuff all the time and they obviously hate Trump and what he's doing. But they're the true blood, true believers that think you need to be with them 100% on all issues, and that Biden and Harris were hopelessly compromised corporate neoliberals that deserved their fate.
It's extremely frustrating to read them.