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EnergizedLib

(3,048 posts)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 05:59 AM Yesterday

The new MAGAt buzzword

Fraud.

I see the claim of fraud being cried over everything as justification for cutting all social programs, to the point that the word fraud is becoming meaningless in and of itself.

Widespread voter fraud does not exist, nor were the daycare fraud accusations substantiated, but they sure were used to cut, cut, cut. Nick Shirley isn’t some great journalist, just some partisan hack like LibsofTikTok - one looks the other way when the cult leader pardons fraudsters, the other looks the other way when someone from their side sexually abuses children.

The truth is is that none of us have any money. It’s all the government’s money and government knows how to spend our money better than we do. I am a statist, believe it would be better if we abandoned the belief in any God for a worship of the state, but we need to elect Democrats to do so.

The felon letting states trying to handle daycare, Medicare and Medicaid is a disaster, as these things are better done at the federal level, not the state level, that we have an outdated Constitution and need more social programs, not less, and we also need less war to invest in our citizens.

It’s not fraud to look over our fellow people with tax dollars, which is not more important than other people’s well being.

Fraud, as being used, is devolving into a completely meaningless term.

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The new MAGAt buzzword (Original Post) EnergizedLib Yesterday OP
Worship the state? No thanks. Orrex Yesterday #1
I think we'd be better off for it EnergizedLib Yesterday #2
That's a 100% guarantee of extremist authoritarian tyranny Orrex Yesterday #5
How did that work out for Venezuela? ornotna Yesterday #6
No MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #22
I want to go lower than MAGAs and punish them EnergizedLib Yesterday #23
I understand that but I don't think this is the way MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #24
Yep I'm seeing it everywhere. It serves both to cut and excuse Trump's debt underpants Yesterday #3
States can't be trusted to do the correct thing, though EnergizedLib Yesterday #4
just completely appalling and disgusting... once again, he shows himself to be absolute scum LymphocyteLover Yesterday #13
"Fraud" means lower income people receiving entitlements. sop Yesterday #7
Exactly EnergizedLib Yesterday #8
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #9
I have a feeling oberle Yesterday #12
s/he did not last long!!! AverageOldGuy Yesterday #15
Library Girl has left the building. Stupid as she is, she'll be back for another slap down. Emile Yesterday #16
Message auto-removed Name removed 19 hrs ago #25
It's "Every Accusation is a Confession." GoCubsGo Yesterday #10
it's all disgusting fascist bullshit LymphocyteLover Yesterday #11
Worship the state? When anyone can take it over? That's as silly as pledging allegiance to a flag that anyone WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #14
To your larger point -- they've seen how it can be weaponized in Minnesota, so they're jumping on that train. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #17
How about not "worshiping" anything? IrishAfricanAmerican Yesterday #18
If the MAGATs are running around pointing at everybody and screaming fraud, hadEnuf Yesterday #19
Guilt by accusation. What they blame others of doing is what they are actually doing. talking-liberally Yesterday #20
Childish epistemology. hay rick Yesterday #21
Didn't DOGE find NO Fraud? Bread and Circuses 19 hrs ago #26
Dump's ugly face should be under the word in Websters Dictionary Blue Owl 18 hrs ago #27
then we don't need to send them our % of tax dollars ShepKat 14 hrs ago #28

EnergizedLib

(3,048 posts)
2. I think we'd be better off for it
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 06:12 AM
Yesterday

If we had one party, leftist rule and worshipped the state.

underpants

(196,539 posts)
3. Yep I'm seeing it everywhere. It serves both to cut and excuse Trump's debt
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 06:14 AM
Yesterday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221141148

Trump Says There’s No Money for Daycare Because We Have to Fight Wars

“I said to [Office of Management and Budget Director Russell Vought], ‘Don’t send any money for daycare because the United States can’t take care of daycare.’ That has to be up to a state. We can’t take care of daycare. We’re a big country. We have 50 states. We have all these other people,” Trump said. “We’re fighting wars. We can’t take care of daycare. You got to let a state take care of daycare and they should pay for it, too. They should pay. They’ll have to raise their taxes, but they should pay for it. And we could lower our taxes a little bit to them to make up.”


“It’s not possible for us to take care of daycare, Medicaid, Medicare, all these individual things. They can do it on a state basis. You can’t do it on a federal. We have to take care of one thing: military protection. We have to guard the country. But all these little things, all these little scams that have taken place, all you have to you have to let states take care of them,” Trump continued.

EnergizedLib

(3,048 posts)
4. States can't be trusted to do the correct thing, though
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 06:16 AM
Yesterday

We can do things at a federal level. It isn’t the 18th Century anymore.

LymphocyteLover

(9,857 posts)
13. just completely appalling and disgusting... once again, he shows himself to be absolute scum
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:21 AM
Yesterday

Response to EnergizedLib (Reply #8)

AverageOldGuy

(3,859 posts)
15. s/he did not last long!!!
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:26 AM
Yesterday

Between the time I read the comment and the time it was removed . . . . I read the comment, entered my response, it the POST button, and was told I cannot reply to comments that have been removed !!!!!

Emile

(42,316 posts)
16. Library Girl has left the building. Stupid as she is, she'll be back for another slap down.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:27 AM
Yesterday

Response to Emile (Reply #16)

GoCubsGo

(34,920 posts)
10. It's "Every Accusation is a Confession."
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:09 AM
Yesterday

Yeah, there's fraud. He and his toadies have been committing it, on steroids, from the get-go.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,960 posts)
14. Worship the state? When anyone can take it over? That's as silly as pledging allegiance to a flag that anyone
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:24 AM
Yesterday

can carry. No thanks.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,960 posts)
17. To your larger point -- they've seen how it can be weaponized in Minnesota, so they're jumping on that train.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:29 AM
Yesterday

Just another flavor of any of their scare tactics -- racism, anti-gay and anti-trans bigotry, etc. After all, hammering on about welfare queens got them "welfare to work," so why not throw everything at the wall and see what sticks?

hadEnuf

(3,621 posts)
19. If the MAGATs are running around pointing at everybody and screaming fraud,
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:39 AM
Yesterday

then they are clearly involved in some kind or terrible fraud right now.

It's how they work. We know this by now.

20. Guilt by accusation. What they blame others of doing is what they are actually doing.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:42 AM
Yesterday

insider trading - stock market manipulation
voter suppression
crypto corruption
global human trafficking and rape
- to name just a few

hay rick

(9,611 posts)
21. Childish epistemology.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:46 AM
Yesterday

The adult recognition of the existence of occasional fraud is replaced by a juvenile presumption of fraud everywhere without the bother of collecting evidence. Anecdotal evidence is used to preclude the need for close examination of facts. It's a lifestyle: find your victimhood and we will tell you who to blame.

ShepKat

(536 posts)
28. then we don't need to send them our % of tax dollars
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 05:50 AM
14 hrs ago

that covers those things, and that will cost all the tax dollars because it's 'more expensive that way'...

sorry, we states can't afford money for war- we can now only afford the things war mongers refuse to pay for-
healthcare, daycare, eldercare, housing, jobs, etc, etc, etc...
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