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demmiblue

(39,730 posts)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 12:49 PM Yesterday

BREAKING: President Trump confirms that the United States has bombed the B1 bridge in Karaj. This is civilian...

BREAKING

President Trump confirms that the United States has bombed the B1 bridge in Karaj.

This is civilian infrastructure, a major transportation artery.

Where are the MIGA people now?

How’s your Amoo Lindsey doing?

BREAKING

President Trump confirms that the United States has bombed the B1 bridge in Karaj.

This is civilian infrastructure, a major transportation artery.

Where are the MIGA people now?

How’s your Amoo Lindsey doing?

Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yasharali.bsky.social) 2026-04-02T16:46:16.563Z
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BREAKING: President Trump confirms that the United States has bombed the B1 bridge in Karaj. This is civilian... (Original Post) demmiblue Yesterday OP
He's going to think that was a "win" UpInArms Yesterday #1
And we will pay for it orangecrush Yesterday #33
And we will have to pay to rebuild it I bet. Irish_Dem 23 hrs ago #76
Very likely orangecrush 21 hrs ago #82
Trump is a madman. Klarkashton Yesterday #2
Are and his family prepared for the Fatwa? PCIntern Yesterday #3
And in my hierarchy of ways I'd prefer that he leave office EYESORE 9001 Yesterday #17
Agree MadameButterfly Yesterday #34
My prayer is that they find him and his family Horse with no Name Yesterday #19
Despite the crazy leaders, they do seem to be an innovative people. harumph Yesterday #52
8,000 years of civilization taught them a few things I gather. AloeVera Yesterday #53
This. róisín_dubh 17 hrs ago #84
..... and if we carry them out, his threats against the electrical and drinking water Iranian infrastructure of Iran Jack Valentino 22 hrs ago #77
I miss Keith Olbermann's Worst Person in the World. City Lights Yesterday #4
He still does them. SheLiberal Yesterday #13
Oh wow! I had no idea! City Lights Yesterday #14
Keith's podcast can be found here Wiz Imp Yesterday #30
Thank you so much! City Lights Yesterday #42
This message was self-deleted by its author City Lights Yesterday #18
He still does Worst Persons in his podcast, which drops about twice weekly. Intractable Yesterday #16
Thanks for the info! City Lights Yesterday #20
The podcast is arranged in true journalistic style. Intractable Yesterday #26
Good to know, thanks! nt City Lights Yesterday #40
He does, and trump is. Everyone else is now OTHER Worst Persons. Volaris Yesterday #62
Trump Gives Netanyahu Another Orgasm dalton99a Yesterday #5
Thank you. H2O Man Yesterday #7
+1 leftstreet Yesterday #10
PLEASE, no video! generalbetrayus Yesterday #31
Isn't it a war crime to deliberately destroy civilian infrastructure? MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #6
BONDI! BONDI! BONDI! leftstreet Yesterday #21
Yeah a little birdie told me Bondi was leaving MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #67
Bridges are considered dual use & have always been legitimate targets EX500rider Yesterday #50
I see MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #68
Legitimate, with restrictions dpibel 22 hrs ago #80
Did they kill civilians?..... Lovie777 Yesterday #8
Neener neener...Look what I just did to your country! BeyondGeography Yesterday #9
This is an act of terrorism. Doodley Yesterday #11
Tut tut malaise Yesterday #15
Ukraine has bombed bridges too Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #12
Not when civilians are on them.............. Lovie777 Yesterday #22
There were civilian vehicles on the Crimean bridge Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #25
It depends. GCG Yesterday #23
Hysterically ironic to me that war has rules, thus has war "crimes" Dixiegrrrl Yesterday #48
As said in "The Bridge on the River Kwai" Wednesdays Yesterday #54
Ukraine was invaded, we're looking to steal oil BeyondGeography Yesterday #28
Has he prepared the American people for Johonny Yesterday #24
"Sucks to be you" durablend Yesterday #72
Bridges are generally considered Greg_In_SF Yesterday #27
That usually requires a war to be declared. malthaussen Yesterday #35
+1 leftstreet Yesterday #43
That is Greg_In_SF Yesterday #73
When's the last time a war was "declared" ? EX500rider 22 hrs ago #79
Not relevant here because destroying the bridge has nothing to do with military objectives Mysterian Yesterday #44
Are you in Iran Greg_In_SF Yesterday #74
So it's your position this was obviously justified? dpibel 22 hrs ago #81
No Greg_In_SF 17 hrs ago #83
LMAO Mysterian 9 hrs ago #86
Nice try. AloeVera Yesterday #65
Arrest this Trump guy pwb Yesterday #29
He has flipped his lid completely orangecrush Yesterday #32
He exhibits the sort of childish joy he felt when the East Wing was demolished. Harker Yesterday #36
Who chooses the targets? Hegseth? IcyPeas Yesterday #37
Miller has been reported to be actively involved also. n/t Dixiegrrrl Yesterday #49
I can hear the abusive father now... Mblaze Yesterday #38
Amen Whip-poor-will Yesterday #47
I thought they were begging for a deal SamuelTheThird Yesterday #39
And now all civilian infrastructure in the USA becomes fair game, nice work dumbass 0rganism Yesterday #41
Some sort of significant retaliation is inevitable. Trump and his minions have laid us open to attack. flashman13 Yesterday #55
Yes, sadly EuterpeThelo Yesterday #60
Too much bad news in TSF's future. He KNOWS his goose is cooked this election. (if no cheating takes place) bluestarone Yesterday #45
Fuck his deal! BidenRocks Yesterday #46
He has already said their oil is there for the taking, so we can see what his "deal" would look like. Doodley Yesterday #57
Mexico will pay for that bridge! bucolic_frolic Yesterday #51
This proves Trump lied.repeatedly 1/ The war has been won. 2/ This isn't a war. 3/ They are reasonable people because Doodley Yesterday #56
Agreed EuterpeThelo Yesterday #71
Good point! Doodley 23 hrs ago #75
Putin definitely approves this war blue-wave Yesterday #58
Bridge over troubled water(s). Water/s equals: theology. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Yesterday #59
USA, the pariah state. Passages Yesterday #61
When one meme just isn't enough... ShazzieB Yesterday #63
Let me be the first to say this... ShazzieB Yesterday #64
You can see where this is going. No bridge... ananda Yesterday #66
Making us safer by making enemies all over the world. Nanjeanne Yesterday #69
The felon's list of war crimes are mounting. The U.S. is a global pariah on all fronts. pat_k Yesterday #70
I wonder if citizens of another country are picking the targets. David__77 22 hrs ago #78
Maybe he'll join his pal Putie on the ICC list of war criminals with arrest warrants Martin Eden 11 hrs ago #85
I see a couple of Trump's not so secret pals jumped into this thread. Kingofalldems 9 hrs ago #87

PCIntern

(28,387 posts)
3. Are and his family prepared for the Fatwa?
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 12:59 PM
Yesterday

Say what you want about the Iranians, But I wouldn’t fuck with them without being ready to find out.

EYESORE 9001

(29,742 posts)
17. And in my hierarchy of ways I'd prefer that he leave office
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:36 PM
Yesterday

that scenario is my least favorite. Can you imagine the martyrdom? He would be apotheosisized and canonized in one fell swoop.

MadameButterfly

(4,043 posts)
34. Agree
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:18 PM
Yesterday

I want him in jail, not a coffin. While he is alive he will continue to destroy his legacy. Once dead, they'll create a myth that will be hard to touch.

AloeVera

(4,266 posts)
53. 8,000 years of civilization taught them a few things I gather.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:12 PM
Yesterday

To them, WE are the barbarians.

And Trump is proving them right.

róisín_dubh

(12,339 posts)
84. This.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 03:04 AM
17 hrs ago

Persian civilisation- like Chinese civilisation- has been around a long ass time. They’ve seen it all pretty much and can just wait us out.
This won’t end well for the US

Jack Valentino

(5,045 posts)
77. ..... and if we carry them out, his threats against the electrical and drinking water Iranian infrastructure of Iran
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 10:00 PM
22 hrs ago

are NOT going to lead the people of Iran to rebel against their own government---
not when some other government (us) is BOMBING them and cutting off
their water and electricity !!!!

The end result would seem to be that 'The Great Satan'
that their own government has been warning them about (us)
for 40-some years will have DESTROYED their quality of life
while killing very many of them....

Seems to me that our attacks on them will destroy any chances
for the 'internal rebellion' which we were hoping would happen,
and indeed was STARTING to happen, before we initiated this
'Epstein Files Fury War' !

Trump and his advisors FAILED basic psychology courses, or more likely never took any---
(or some instructors were 'paid off' to 'pass' them)---

City Lights

(25,843 posts)
4. I miss Keith Olbermann's Worst Person in the World.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:00 PM
Yesterday

Rapist would win it every day, hands down.

City Lights

(25,843 posts)
14. Oh wow! I had no idea!
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:33 PM
Yesterday

I'm not a big podcast person, but I will have to look into this! Thanks so much for letting me know!!

Response to SheLiberal (Reply #13)

Intractable

(2,115 posts)
16. He still does Worst Persons in his podcast, which drops about twice weekly.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:36 PM
Yesterday

In the latest edition, he was sticking it to Katy Tur.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1322111045

Intractable

(2,115 posts)
26. The podcast is arranged in true journalistic style.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:49 PM
Yesterday

The important stuff is up front, generally consisting of newsworthy topics.

By the time you get to the end, he's dishing dirt on his ex-girlfriends (like Katy Tur) or former colleagues (like Rachel Maddow).

If you listen to enough of these podcasts, you hear the same dirt about the same people.

MustLoveBeagles

(16,448 posts)
67. Yeah a little birdie told me Bondi was leaving
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 04:31 PM
Yesterday


But seriously I know mistakes happen in war but this seems like a deliberate act.

EX500rider

(12,588 posts)
50. Bridges are considered dual use & have always been legitimate targets
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:02 PM
Yesterday
Their classification as "dual-use" infrastructure (civilian and military use) allows for targeting, provided the attack offers a clear military advantage and follows proportionality rules.

dpibel

(3,948 posts)
80. Legitimate, with restrictions
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 10:15 PM
22 hrs ago

The "provided by" seems rather to heavily qualify your "always been" subject line declaration.

I realize that there are people in the world for whom "because I say so" is sufficient clear military advantage, but I hope we do not find them here.

BeyondGeography

(41,108 posts)
9. Neener neener...Look what I just did to your country!
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:19 PM
Yesterday

Madness. He’s putting a big fat target on all things American.

Lovie777

(23,009 posts)
22. Not when civilians are on them..............
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:45 PM
Yesterday

If that's the case, a enemy can bomb one of our bridges while civilians are traveling on them.

That is a war crime.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,258 posts)
25. There were civilian vehicles on the Crimean bridge
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:48 PM
Yesterday

When Ukraine bombed it (although just a few as it was 3am)

GCG

(88 posts)
23. It depends.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:47 PM
Yesterday

No, not all bridges are legal targets in war. Under international humanitarian law (the law of armed conflict), a bridge only becomes a legitimate military target if it makes an effective contribution to military action and its destruction offers a definite military advantage.

Bridges are classic examples of "dual-use" targets. While they are crucial for civilian transportation and infrastructure, their utility in moving military assets often makes them targets. The legality of targeting them often hinges on the Principle of Distinction, which requires parties to distinguish between civilian objects and military objectives.

If a bridge is used for civilian purposes, attacking it when there is no significant military advantage—or when the damage to civilians is disproportionate—is a violation of international law.

Dixiegrrrl

(209 posts)
48. Hysterically ironic to me that war has rules, thus has war "crimes"
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:55 PM
Yesterday

which has punishments.
War itself is not a crime, but has rules that people break and often get away with.

Insane.

Wednesdays

(22,624 posts)
54. As said in "The Bridge on the River Kwai"
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:15 PM
Yesterday

when British Colonel Nicholson told Japanese Colonel Saito that his mistreatment of prisoners of war violated the Geneva Convention, Saito snapped, "This war, not a game of cricket!"

BeyondGeography

(41,108 posts)
28. Ukraine was invaded, we're looking to steal oil
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:01 PM
Yesterday

So at best we’re talking about a valid act of war in a war of legitimate self-defense and a valid act of war in an unprovoked war of aggression.

Johonny

(26,203 posts)
24. Has he prepared the American people for
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:48 PM
Yesterday

The wave of symmetrical terrorism that is sure to follow?

Greg_In_SF

(1,257 posts)
27. Bridges are generally considered
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 01:51 PM
Yesterday

legitimate military targets under international humanitarian law (IHL), also known as the law of armed conflict, if their destruction offers a definite military advantage.

malthaussen

(18,573 posts)
35. That usually requires a war to be declared.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:21 PM
Yesterday

Otherwise, it is just state-sponsored terrorism.

-- Mal

EX500rider

(12,588 posts)
79. When's the last time a war was "declared" ?
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 10:07 PM
22 hrs ago
The United States last formally declared war during World War II, with the final declarations approved by Congress on June 4, 1942, against Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania
Yet Korea, Vietnam, Iraq I/II etc were all wars.

Mysterian

(6,500 posts)
44. Not relevant here because destroying the bridge has nothing to do with military objectives
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:47 PM
Yesterday

But thanks for playing. We have some nice parting gifts for you backstage.

Greg_In_SF

(1,257 posts)
74. Are you in Iran
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 08:16 PM
Yesterday

and able to confirm that there was zero Iranian military activity on the bridge?

dpibel

(3,948 posts)
81. So it's your position this was obviously justified?
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 10:20 PM
22 hrs ago

Just want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly.

Put another way: In your jurisprudence, if an Iranian soldier has crossed that bridge, it's a legitimate target?

Greg_In_SF

(1,257 posts)
83. No
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 02:27 AM
17 hrs ago

absolutely not! What I'm saying is that no one knows.

Now, technically, if the bridge was used to transport military equipment, it is an approved target.

AloeVera

(4,266 posts)
65. Nice try.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:57 PM
Yesterday

Proportionality and distinction play a role too, not just military advantage.

Good luck fitting in those principles to this obviously wanton act of destruction, terrorism against civilians and blackmail.

Though IHL doesn't apply to "excursions" in the first place, does it?

pwb

(12,687 posts)
29. Arrest this Trump guy
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:03 PM
Yesterday

and Netanyahu and Putin and put them all on trial together for the world to see. Only a few men are causing all this. The world will be better without their fucked up leadership. What an example all three set ? It is like a game for them, who can be the biggest asshole to humanity?

Mblaze

(1,047 posts)
38. I can hear the abusive father now...
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:38 PM
Yesterday

"This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you".

It was bullshit then, it's bullshit now.

0rganism

(25,648 posts)
41. And now all civilian infrastructure in the USA becomes fair game, nice work dumbass
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:43 PM
Yesterday

F47 and the entire chain of command responsible for executing this obviously-illegal order are now war criminals, state terrorists. Top to bottom. This event marks the absolute end of a century where America and our ideals were widely seen as aspirational. Now we've become transparently evil, a warning flag to the rest of the world. And when the next terror attack on the mainland happens, we will respond with the usual barrage of awful things once again, but we will do them alone.

flashman13

(2,409 posts)
55. Some sort of significant retaliation is inevitable. Trump and his minions have laid us open to attack.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:16 PM
Yesterday

Was that just a function of his stupidity or was it intentional?

BTW Don't get bit by a skunk. There will be no one at CDC to test you for rabies. There is also no one at the Iranian desk in the FBI. Thomas Fugate is a nobody 22 year old Trump campaign staffer, U of Texas class of 2024, that sits at the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships security desk to combat violent extremism.

Good Luck! We are going to need it.

EuterpeThelo

(367 posts)
60. Yes, sadly
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:32 PM
Yesterday

this time, there will be no headlines from the former allies we've repeatedly insulted proclaiming "we are all Americans now."

bluestarone

(22,199 posts)
45. Too much bad news in TSF's future. He KNOWS his goose is cooked this election. (if no cheating takes place)
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 02:50 PM
Yesterday

So Expect what you would expect if a RAT is cornered. Even a nuclear device being used in Iran.

Doodley

(11,920 posts)
57. He has already said their oil is there for the taking, so we can see what his "deal" would look like.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:19 PM
Yesterday

Doodley

(11,920 posts)
56. This proves Trump lied.repeatedly 1/ The war has been won. 2/ This isn't a war. 3/ They are reasonable people because
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:16 PM
Yesterday

they sent me a prize. 4/ We are negotiating with them. 5/ We don't need help from our allies because we have already won. 6/ We have achieved our objectives. None of these things can be true if he is still destroying their infrastructure and threatening to send them back to the stone age. He is a deranged lunatic who single-handedly has created a global crisis.

EuterpeThelo

(367 posts)
71. Agreed
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 07:30 PM
Yesterday

except for the part about single-handedly. Every one of his corrupt, cowardly, incompetent enablers has blood on their hands.

blue-wave

(5,156 posts)
58. Putin definitely approves this war
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:21 PM
Yesterday

The whole mess is a page or two out of Putin's playbook.

Passages

(4,173 posts)
61. USA, the pariah state.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 03:35 PM
Yesterday

Just think of the hatred just among Americans for this guy. 8 million on the streets last Saturday, visible in defiance of his presidency.

Across the globe, remember that he intentionally hurt Cubans and their babies, his threats to Greenland, his coup in Venezuela, what he allows for in Gaza, and what we fund.

His ICE agents across our country, the terror and death alone by that agency under his orders.

Blowback: unintended consequences, side-effects, or repercussions that result from an activity that has a negative effect on U.S. national security interests.
https://www.cia.gov/resources/spy-glossary/

pat_k

(13,393 posts)
70. The felon's list of war crimes are mounting. The U.S. is a global pariah on all fronts.
Thu Apr 2, 2026, 05:30 PM
Yesterday

Any military leader with a moral fiber left should go public with refusals.

Martin Eden

(15,635 posts)
85. Maybe he'll join his pal Putie on the ICC list of war criminals with arrest warrants
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 08:35 AM
11 hrs ago

Should he step foot on any country that is a member of the International Criminal Court.

Kingofalldems

(40,290 posts)
87. I see a couple of Trump's not so secret pals jumped into this thread.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:53 AM
9 hrs ago

It was an act of terrorism from the guy who said "Kill all Muslims!"



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