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The anti-Catholic hate from MAGA is not surprising. The Klan hated Catholics and MAGA is the modern iteration of the KKK.
— Dean Obeidallah (@deanobeidallah.bsky.social) 2026-04-13T19:59:05.919Z
SunImp
(2,718 posts)
The Wizard
(13,774 posts)the Klan ever endorsed.
maxsolomon
(38,868 posts)Hard to tease that one apart, no?
Raven123
(7,852 posts)In the US, Catholic Leadership created the doctrine of the pre-eminent issue of abortion, thereby allowing, if not encouraging, Catholics to ignore all other aspects of Catholic social doctrine. What could possibly go wrong? We are seeing it. The self described Protestant evangelicals dont agree with Catholics on many details of their faith. IMO, once Roe v. Wade was tossed by SCOTUS, those old differences and in some case hostilities were bound to resurface. I just wonder how long it take be for MAGA Catholics to realize they were just a tool. I know a few myself (none in my family) and they have been remarkably quiet lately. No longer carrying the torch for Trump at every turn. Hope they finally see the light. Hope your relatives do too.
erronis
(24,040 posts)Catholic, protestant, evangelical, agnostic, whatever. For some reason the willingness to believe in the CON crossed a lot of boundaries.
maxsolomon
(38,868 posts)My Cousins at least.
La Coliniere
(1,956 posts)OC375
(1,065 posts)Hope22
(4,794 posts)She must be in shock that Project 2025 came to fruition and her idol T is a complete scumball. I warned her and begged her not to vote for him and she blew me off. I havent spoken to her since Election Day.
erronis
(24,040 posts)It almost never works to be told about ones mistakes. (I know, having made many!)
Hope22
(4,794 posts)Her comment was that things have been bad before but they always work out. She was unwilling to try to educate herself. Trust me. Im not the preacher in the family.
Lifeafter70
(1,095 posts)She is very involved in her Parrish.
My parents voted for him my dad twice and my mom once. Both passed before trumps second term. They supported him because of one issue. Roe v Wade
Yet both my parents were life long democrats who voted for Obama.
Too much fox news in their retirement.
I have left a few family functions because of the crazy talk. My sister tried to keep me from both their funerals. She was worried I might bring up the inheritance. Not my style. I could care less about a little bit of money.
Hope22
(4,794 posts)In addition she fights against abortion to buy forgiveness for the one she had. That is horrible enough but to vote for this monster in light of the Epstein files is really disturbing!
Lifeafter70
(1,095 posts)Are you Irish Catholic.
I could at least reach my mom when we spoke privately. But my dad just watched too much fox news. He became someone I didn't recognize.
My sister and her daughter inlaw run the local right to life chapter. The both demonstrated outside of their cities Planned Parenthood. They are against gay rights, immigration. Trump is their savior.
Hope22
(4,794 posts)She worked through the steps to become Catholic about ten years ago. Busy bee! Three marriages plus divorces all had to be cleaned up to make that happen. I cant imagine the effort. She too is very interested in legislating against a womans right to choose even though she had the choice. Very conflicted! Take care and keep on keeping on! 💗
Lifeafter70
(1,095 posts)We were born into the church.
I escaped after my divorce back in the 80s
Mu one sister and brother were always telling me they were praying for me. Lol
ToxMarz
(2,969 posts)and they calculated enough of them could be co-opted (a lot by going after abortion). If the conservative religious right ever got powerful enough they didn't need the Catholics, they would throw them under the bus and run over them twice.
Marie Marie
(11,361 posts)ChicagoTeamster
(1,039 posts)Lifeafter70
(1,095 posts)A little dark humor.
erronis
(24,040 posts)I can see the Inquisition and auto-da-fe being part of the Trump era injustice system.
the nelm
(274 posts)But it seems like "as long as they are for the same things I am and vote with me" then all is forgiven - for the time being. I suspect a lot of the anti-Irish immigrant sentiment from way back had much to do with the fact that most were also Catholic, i.e. "papist".
Also remember reading a story by noted Maine columnist Bill Caldwell years ago about a Catholic priest being run out of some small town in Downeast Maine way back in late 19th or early-20th century. It was a long time ago and I don't recall the specific details.
BurnDoubt
(1,794 posts)reminds them Heaven is only an option for those who recognize the Catholic Church as the One, True Church, established by Jesus Himself and handed-off to Peter.
Sux to be them.
the nelm
(274 posts)But still a lot of that was quite ingrained into me so many years ago.
paleotn
(22,374 posts)The Pope is the whore of Babylon. The Anti Christ per Martin Luther. And all that ritual is bunk and unscriptural. Which, to their point, it is.
Seems there's more than enough silliness to go around. Both sides.
BurnDoubt
(1,794 posts)I had six years of Catholic Elementary School. I was an Altar Boy, trained Altar Boys and thought I had a Vocation
until Puberty re-shuffled the cards. It was all Good
no creepy stuff anywhere near us. I think my education was better than average, and would have been better if I was a more dedicated student. The Priests and Nuns were kind and tolerant, and more Woke than youd expect (although Jesus IS the poster-boy for Woke
in fact hes the author.).
I jumped-out because I find large groups to be terrifying in their very numbers. Im not a belonger.
When I see MAGAs lips moving
I DON'T HEAR JESUS VOICE. Their entire everything is total apostasy. Heresy.
Satan shat out a movement, and it walks amongst us. And their pride in that is insane.
Dont go to Hell
it will be over-run by these dirtbags.
erronis
(24,040 posts)dflprincess
(29,357 posts)and, of course, my parents' influence.
I went to public school and only had to deal with the nuns for a couple hours a week at Catechism class. I think they went easier on us "publics" as our parents didn't love us enough to send us to Catholic school.
orangecrush
(30,592 posts)ananda
(35,267 posts)Politically, they were always on the right side of life,
and very active for social justice and equality for all
people.
However, this latest generation didn't all hold to it.
My siblings and I did, but some of our cousins didn't,
which is a true shame.
BurnDoubt
(1,794 posts)paleotn
(22,374 posts)In stark contrast to Calvinism's view that wealth is a sign of divine election. And the opposite if the breaks just didn't go your way. The Catholic view is far more practical, taking into account the great celestial life lottery. Most tickets don't win a prize.
ananda
(35,267 posts)And in the case of my Irish ancestors, you can
extend it to all of humanity, no exceptions.
In fact, a great aunt's son taught college in
St Paul, and risked his life and his job as an
activist for civil rights and peace for vulnerable
people.
I can envision his descendants in MN working
hard as activists for immigrants there.
Wounded Bear
(64,415 posts)Am I wrong?
dflprincess
(29,357 posts)and at some point in the 1970s they began letting Catholics join.
Broke my heart as I'd always taken a certain amount of pride in belonging to a group the KKK hated.
yardwork
(69,438 posts)It's possible that the Klan's iconography was built around something they both hated and were fascinated by. Now I want to read up on this!
Lifeafter70
(1,095 posts)My irish catholic grandfather told me the story of when the klan burned a cross in front of their farmhouse
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FascismIsDeath
(201 posts)Honestly it should be an OP but I don't think I'm the one to write it anytime soon. But one has to dig into that to ultimately understand the politics at play here with the churches.
erronis
(24,040 posts)To me that's what makes modern histories of the tides of influence (religion, politics, etc.) so uninteresting. Wait 20-30 years and you have to throw out all those learned tomes and write brand new ones.
BidenRocks
(3,330 posts)All we're guilty of is not picking anyone.
I was upset that an American pez would piss off the Pope.
Show respect Damnit!
I know. He is incapable of respecting anyone besides his own ugly visage.
erronis
(24,040 posts)Their definition of higher power is some man-like thing standing on a rock or in a pulpit.
Mine is logic, evidence, testability, repeatability; and if not cogent explanations for why not.
yardwork
(69,438 posts)We undermine their patriarchal fantasies.
ColoringFool
(789 posts)Demagoguery on the airwaves https://share.google/vt1eVEDkkpgRbiatI
JI7
(93,698 posts)Initech
(108,910 posts)Jack Valentino
(5,116 posts)until now.....
I think that may change in November!
(However, the Democratic Party received the majority of Catholic votes,
dating back to BEFORE the Republican Party was even a political party!)
Trump's attacks against the FIRST American Pope
certainly are not likely to endear him to them!
(among all the other problems he has with human beings in general...)
The die-hard maggots ??? Their numbers are shrinking as well---
when Trump policies begin to hurt them, and/or they finally recognize
that he has abandoned campaign promises about
'lowering prices on day one' (which was a LIE which no President could hope to accomplish),
and 'keeping us out of wars'....
They have a bad record of turning out for mid-term elections without Trump on the ballot,
and THIS November I believe that even MORE of them will 'stay home'...
There is no need to try to convince 'those people' to vote for Democrats---
if they stay home, it will be 2024 in reverse---
(when the Democratic turnout was much less than in 2020,
and many voters blamed the Democrats for the state of the economy.
NOW the shoe is on 'the other foot'!)
H2O Man
(79,102 posts)Maga hates the Irish Catholics because as immigrants, they kicked the South's ass in the Civil War.