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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe have all been proper f*cked.
While they were trolling and gaslighting us about the evils of globalism, socialism, and communism they were picking our pockets and assuming total control over everything, now the "tech leaders" pretty much own the planet. Mark Zuckerberg's Meta is building Hyperion, a $200 billion AI Data Center in Louisiana which will be consuming as much energy as all of Manhattan. Elon Musk has a net worth of $850 billion, larger than the GDP of 176 of the world's 195 countries, yet he receives billions in government subsidies.
And I am still trying to figure out what all this AI is for other than surveillance on us all and shit videos all over the internet.
Unfortunately it's too late to reverse what's going on and today's world is not 1789 France.
Walleye
(45,512 posts)PatSeg
(53,567 posts)And I afraid that there are all kinds of repercussions that we can't begin to be aware of.
lostincalifornia
(5,538 posts)more to come.
magicarpet
(19,422 posts)Now with Artificial Intelligence and robotics the remainder of blue collar and most of white collar jobs will go bye-bye.
If the bread lines get too long - they can just shoot us - and toss the bodies into a mass grave for eventual burial.
Making America Greater - than it has ever been before.
FrndStrng
(1 post)What a waste of good protein as per current FDA food pyramid!
KS Toronado
(23,875 posts)
LetMyPeopleVote
(182,138 posts)JokeHer
(60 posts)Ive thought for years AI would be the collapse of society it COULD be a useful tool, but in the hands of corporations and billionaire white men, all they see is more money. They want it all. Just six months ago I was seeing articles from CEOs saying not to worry, AI wont replace jobs. (Yeah right) Now theyre out in the open about it. I predict it will happen in phases. They already have the blueprint. Putting 300 million Americans out of work all at once would cause a revolt - off with their heads. But doing it say, 10 million people at a time will cause chaos. Want to go really sci fi The corporate overlords will turn us into a complete police state where we are monitored 24/7 by drones and AI technology to keep us in our lane and compliant little slaves. The time to strike is now. These huge data centers they simply must have are all in preparation to completely control us.
progressoid
(53,389 posts)IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,518 posts)OGBuzz
(630 posts)Ilsa
(64,579 posts)And the rest of us as well.
lastlib
(28,628 posts)It may be the only cure for this cancer--it's metastasizing too rapidly.
Where is our "Goldeneye"??
TheProle
(4,117 posts)those who fetishize the French Revolution stopped reading after they gave Louis the chop.
Response to TheProle (Reply #15)
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TheProle
(4,117 posts)Can you point to the chart and tell me who is expendable so you can get your pound of flesh from Musk, dude?

https://historyincharts.com/reign-of-terror-executions-by-social-class/
paleotn
(22,752 posts)Gather in a circle and sing kumbaya? We're not doomed to repeat the reign of terror. That's rather shallow thinking, no? But, hey! History in charts.
TheProle
(4,117 posts)AND summary execution, I guess were out of options.
If only we had some sort of guiding document that could define our rights and remedies and then we could educate enough of our fellow citizens to vote accordingly.
58Sunliner
(6,418 posts)WarGamer
(18,863 posts)The fantasy version of the French Revolution doesn't match up well with reality.
The revolutionaries ended up eating each other and that led to a new dictator, Napoleon.
Not to mention, the dirtbags desecrated French history including raiding the Tombs at Basilique St. Denis and emptying the ashes of 1000 years of Kings on the ground... Martel, Charlemagne... disgusting.
For every USA, there are a dozen France and Russias where the revolutionaries fucked up history.
Wednesdays
(23,150 posts)1794 was not a good year in France.
IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,518 posts)malaise
(298,027 posts)Across the planet too
BH liberal
(165 posts)AI becomes Skynet? The Russkies have had a network nicknamed Dead Hand since 1985. It will automatically send the launch signals to missiles if the country's top leaders get killed in a pre-emptive strike.
OGBuzz
(630 posts)Sam Altman: "AI will most likely lead to the end of the world, but in the meantime there will be great companies created with serious machine learning."
BH liberal
(165 posts)than AI to administer Trump's Golden Dome anti-missile system? What could go wrong?
OGBuzz
(630 posts)AI models from OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google chose to launch nuclear weapons in 95% of simulated war games.
BH liberal
(165 posts)after he was elected the first time and received his early briefings. "If we have them (nuclear weapons), why can't we use them?"
OGBuzz
(630 posts)Trump stated that if a ceasefire agreement is not reached soon, the world will "just have to look at one big glow coming out of Iran"
PatSeg
(53,567 posts)He just has to use them.
The Madcap
(2,040 posts)LymphocyteLover
(10,161 posts)Response to BH liberal (Reply #4)
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FakeNoose
(42,441 posts)Probably.
paleotn
(22,752 posts)BWdem4life
(3,091 posts)But maybe someday a year willl be named after this generation.
No pressure cooker can contain continuously increasing pressure indefinitely.
babydollhead
(2,284 posts)No empathy, no humanity
Just machines
debsy
(1,039 posts)They will have the world to themselves. Until, of course, the AI decides they dont need the morbidly wealthy.
You're going down easy? I'm sure as hell not.
Plus, AI is as much a scam as it is substance. Don't be scammed.
OGBuzz
(630 posts)and the 'morbidly wealthy' will turn them on us long before the robots eventually turn on their masters.
And in the meantime I am 100% certain that to a Musk, a Bezos or a Zuckerberg I am just a useless air breather.
luv2fly
(2,711 posts)"I am 100% certain that to a Musk, a Bezos or a Zuckerberg I am just a useless air breather."
Air breathers are their lifeblood, air breathers pay for Amazon subscriptions, they use Facebook to connect with their "friends," and they drive Teslas.
They don't want to kill you, they want to milk you.
paleotn
(22,752 posts)Stop being Debbie Downer and get out there and fight.
God, I hate defeatists.
OGBuzz
(630 posts)But I will chip in for guillotines when that time comes.
paleotn
(22,752 posts)Escurumbele
(4,114 posts)will do the right thing to protect its citizens by regulating AI and lots of other things.
Regulations are important, that is how Teddy Roosevelt made this country better, without him steel monopoly would still exist, railroad monopoly as well, food regulations would not exist...All we need is good government, we must vet the people we vote for to make sure the right people are placed in the right sits.
H2O Man
(79,258 posts)It can be changed, though not by way of channeling Eeyore's "what's the use?" philosophy.
Greyhead
(177 posts)Those data centers are just to keep tabs on all of us.
somaticexperiencing
(600 posts)GenThePerservering
(3,717 posts)and is accessible.
GiqueCee
(4,759 posts)Response to GiqueCee (Reply #42)
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Aussie105
(8,185 posts)From one extreme to another.
But France is ok now though, right?
In short, don't expect America after Trump to recover overnight.
GiqueCee
(4,759 posts)ol' Bony declared himself Emperor!
History has shown us, over the course of centuries, that those who crave dominion over the lives of others POWER are the last ones who should have it. No good has ever come of allowing psychopaths to attain high office. Trump has put an exclamation point after that obvious statement of fact! As the old saying goes, those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
We might learn something from the horrific fucking disaster that is Donald Trump... but I doubt it.
OldBaldy1701E
(11,566 posts)It would not take much to make it so.
But, I am more hoping for 1776 rather than 1789.
RainCaster
(13,892 posts)We can stop this shit. In each state we have the power to make these data centers buy their power and water at rates far more than what the rest of us
pay. We can limit them to so much water (restroom needs) and after that, the rates become astronomical.
PATRICK
(12,417 posts)First is something I know too little about. The history of Banking suggests they are the infrastructure support for all rulers or revolutionaries. They determine policy, wreck reforms(Socialists in post WWI Germany, bad influence on FDR). Even pariah states embargoed come around to some deal. They serve until crisis wipes some of the little guts out. They rode through 1789 the same way, profited off of Empire and survived.
Second: Napoleon lived in fear as all the French did. Leading revolutionaries had more to fear from each other and literally wiped each other out. The Terror thugs were executed. Few monarchs(incompetent mostly) get decapitated but Napoleon came close before having power and retained home enemies willing to try it again. His European competitors were Emperors. Stability impresses banks. He claimed he really wanted the British model and a gentlemanly retirement as any Prime Minister. Of course, by then he was being held in captivity by his British hosts. He was safer on St. Helena. France went through many unsatisfying pendulum swings right through WWII. The sham of "nobility" declined though the power of money elites continued(from which most crowned "royalty" descends).
Changing the world means changing the power structure of TPTB in mammon matters. This is where anti-human corruption is embedded in infrastructure people vitally need. In the wide picture, people are not all that different in needs and goals that are socially constructive, nor all that different in chaos and mayhem. In the BIG picture the core of our problems remains relatively unscathed, unconfronted, and untouched in the stranglehold of central money abuse. And that money "management" core is allowed to be insanely diseased and all powerful to the point of ignoring planeticide. It is why the GOP is nuts and why the Dems act weak and people shy away from going after the most unaccountable villains.
CrispyQ
(41,108 posts)Some centers will never be built, & others only partially completed, & others will be vacated a few years after they open, when they drain the aquifers & climate change makes living in the southwest inhospitable for five months of the year. It's a bubble created by & for the tech boys & investors.
Do they really need this many centers to surveille us? Besides shooting off rockets, what kind of scientific interests have these guys shown in projects that would advance humanity? None. This is a boys club, disguised as a science club, with the intent to shut out/cut off everyone they don't like.
They're fascists.
Diraven
(1,952 posts)All of it is operating on huge losses, with no plan to become profitable, other than the hope that it will enable some huge breakthrough that will allow them to charge monopoly prices later. It's being kept afloat by investors buying into the hype and cash from the industries that make the AI hardware. Really the only purpose is to make stock holders rich before the Ponzi scheme collapses.
LymphocyteLover
(10,161 posts)TBF
(37,230 posts)but they can also be removed. Always remember the first rule of organizing: there are many more of us than there are of them.
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