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RandySF

(86,323 posts)
Thu May 21, 2026, 10:51 AM 7 hrs ago

Here is the autopsy passage that stands out for me.

“This kind of thinking – denialist at its core – prevents the Party from seeking real accountability, and from making the changes we need to deliver on our promises to the American people,” the report says.

It says that since Barack Obama’s big 2008 win, the party has “vacillated between stagnation and retrogression.” And it notes that, on the whole, Democrats have steadily lost ground since Obama’s success.

“These losses are the direct result of missed opportunities to invest in our states, counties, and local parties and candidates,” the report says.



https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/dnc-autopsy-takeaways-vis

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Here is the autopsy passage that stands out for me. (Original Post) RandySF 7 hrs ago OP
So Howard Deans 50 state strategy is still a good plan! biophile 7 hrs ago #1
Actually, NOW is the time that following it could have brought gains karynnj 6 hrs ago #6
The part that really scares me... berksdem 6 hrs ago #7
Were there any high level races that were competitive? karynnj 6 hrs ago #8
From Same County modrepub 3 hrs ago #22
Thanks for posting this awesomerwb1 7 hrs ago #2
Seems like language carefully crafted to be vacant of meaning. harumph 7 hrs ago #3
Nobody reads the party platform. RandySF 7 hrs ago #4
At least we have one! ;) nt Shipwack 5 hrs ago #13
Big donors fight against economic progressives and pollute the party. Tim S 7 hrs ago #5
This, in a nutshell. TheRickles 5 hrs ago #11
+1 leftstreet 5 hrs ago #12
This part is complete bullshit LearnedHand 6 hrs ago #9
I agree. Democratic policies annihilate Republicans on kitchen table issues Martin Eden 6 hrs ago #10
Yes this MustLoveBeagles 5 hrs ago #16
This cowering is the Democratic Party at its worst BaronChocula 4 hrs ago #18
And the next paragraph is BS about how Josh Stein won muriel_volestrangler 3 hrs ago #23
This is what I was hoping for Obama and Biden to do in 2017. question everything 5 hrs ago #14
Exactly. I just posted about the Indiana promary's and how strong the Dem turnout was compared to the repuke Cheezoholic 5 hrs ago #15
Just playing devil's advocate here, but... LudwigPastorius 4 hrs ago #17
The South Dakota Democratic Party no longer has an office. RandySF 4 hrs ago #19
Nothing in the autopsy cites any supporting evidence WhiskeyGrinder 4 hrs ago #21
Post removed Post removed 4 hrs ago #20
I hate that the Party cozied up to the oligarchs -- Big Pharma, Big Banks, Big Money, etc Seeking Serenity 3 hrs ago #24

karynnj

(61,101 posts)
6. Actually, NOW is the time that following it could have brought gains
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:20 AM
6 hrs ago

We are poised for a blue wave. People are extremely unhappy at what the Republican President, Senate and House are doing. However, the full gain can only happen if our state parties have the leadership and volunteers to GOTV and we have a field of good candidates. To me, the former sentence is the essence of Dean's 50 state call.

berksdem

(930 posts)
7. The part that really scares me...
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:24 AM
6 hrs ago

about the big blue wave is people actually voting. Here in PA we just had our primaries. In my county there was less that 25% of registered voters that actually came out to the polls.

karynnj

(61,101 posts)
8. Were there any high level races that were competitive?
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:29 AM
6 hrs ago

Like most here, I've voted in primaries where there are no competitive races on the Democratic side. The only reasons are habit and wanting the number of Democratic voters to be higher than Republican.

I know Shapiro was running unopposed and there is no IS Senate race. Was the House race in your area competitive?

modrepub

(4,199 posts)
22. From Same County
Thu May 21, 2026, 02:39 PM
3 hrs ago

Was dissatisfied in primary turnout, especially in Reading. If you want a little encouragement, looking at the total primary votes, more Ds came out than Rs even though Rs hold a slight voter registration edge.

It would be nice to make some lower ballot state legislative positions go Democratic in November in Berks, but I’ll be happy if we keep the Governor’s office and at least one branch of the legislature.

awesomerwb1

(5,155 posts)
2. Thanks for posting this
Thu May 21, 2026, 10:59 AM
7 hrs ago

“These losses are the direct result of missed opportunities to invest in our states, counties, and local parties and candidates,” the report says.

Hope they didn't spend too much $ crafting this report that states the obvious. And then they wonder why people are pissed off at their inaction (or half @ssed action).

harumph

(3,422 posts)
3. Seems like language carefully crafted to be vacant of meaning.
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:04 AM
7 hrs ago

States the obvious - doesn't step on any toes. The very language that alienates those of us who understand what the substance of the party platform should be.

LearnedHand

(5,607 posts)
9. This part is complete bullshit
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:35 AM
6 hrs ago
One phrase repeatedly gets mentioned derisively, and that’s “identity politics.”

It’s repeatedly cast as a crutch that Democrats need to move away from, in favor of kitchen-table issues like affordability and middle-class appeal.


The ONLY people who gas on about identity politics are republicans. They keep it stirred up in the news and then say that’s all Dems care about. The only comment Dems need to address this stupid shit is “I honor the value and dignity of every human being, unlike the republicans who value only the billionaires.”

Martin Eden

(15,886 posts)
10. I agree. Democratic policies annihilate Republicans on kitchen table issues
Thu May 21, 2026, 11:59 AM
6 hrs ago

Unfortunately, the rightwing noise machine creates a public perception vastly at odds with reality.

Democrats not only talk about issues that impact affordibility, they craft policies to actually do something about it. Republicans consistently obstruct those policies and transfer more wealth to the one percent.

There's always room to improve Democratic messaging, but that is not the core problem. The corporate media and rightwing propaganda across a broad spectrum have created false perceptions not only by what they spew, but by what they do not report.

BaronChocula

(4,766 posts)
18. This cowering is the Democratic Party at its worst
Thu May 21, 2026, 01:54 PM
4 hrs ago

Defending the rights of and access for all Americans is actually a GOOD thing which is why white nationalists have attacked it as "identity politics." When fox news repeats something enough, it bleeds into the rhetoric of the less engaged. I recently had a friend complain about Democrats "running on trans issues." I corrected him that it was actually REPUBLICANS that run on (anti-) trans issues and that he was repeating fox news soundbites. He didn't like that.

What actually is identity politics is...
-Blaming DEI for America's troubles
-Erasing majority black voting districts
-Going after drag queens
-Going after trans people
-Etc.

By cowering due to right-wing attacks, the authors of this crap are saying Dems aren't in the business of defending the rights of all Americans. This is one of the places many in the party need to learn how to fight back.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,605 posts)
23. And the next paragraph is BS about how Josh Stein won
Thu May 21, 2026, 02:53 PM
3 hrs ago
The report says Stein’s huge win showed how to “focus less on abstract issues and identity politics, and connect with voters on the issues they say matter most, including the economy, disaster relief, and addressing housing affordability.”

So, I (in the UK) couldn't remember what Josh Stein's campaign was like. It turns out he was running against Mark Robinson - and that name I remember.

Near the end of his term, Robinson won the Republican nomination for governor. His campaign was checkered by a history of incendiary and controversial statements, including about abortion, Adolf Hitler, the LGBTQ community, women's rights, civil rights, and Holocaust denial. Robinson was also linked to extremist comments on an online pornography forum during his campaign.[1] After losing the election to Democratic state attorney general Josh Stein, Robinson announced his retirement from politics.[2][3]
...
On September 19, 2024, CNN reported that Robinson had made many graphic remarks on the online pornographic forum Nude Africa from 2008 to 2012 under the username "minisoldr", with Robinson being linked to accounts named "minisoldr" on several websites, including Twitter, Pinterest, YouTube, Disqus, and BlackPlanet.[1] The remarks made on Nude Africa included expressing support for slavery, using various homophobic, racial, and antisemitic slurs, enjoying transgender pornography, admitting to peeping at women showering in public showers without their knowledge when he was 14 and continuing to fantasize about the experience as an adult, self-identifying as a "perv", and calling himself a "Black Nazi" and stating his support for Adolf Hitler over Barack Obama as United States president.[1][43] Another remark labelled Martin Luther King, Jr. a "commie bastard" and then stated: "If I was in the KKK I would have called him Martin Lucifer Koon!" CNN highlighted that "minisoldr" on Nude Africa shared many of Robinson's personal details, and used several unconventional phrases that Robinson later used on Facebook from 2014 to 2017.[1] Robinson denied the allegations.[44][45] Without any evidence, he accused Josh Stein, his main opponent for the governorship, of being responsible for the discovery of the Nude Africa account[46] and claimed that the account was generated by artificial intelligence.[47][48] The Nude Africa posts by "minisoldr" were deleted on the same day as CNN's report about them.[49]

Weeks prior, online publication The Assembly had published allegations by six people who said they witnessed Robinson visiting video pornography shops up to five times a week in Greensboro in the 1990s and 2000s.[1][50] Politico published a story, on the same day as CNN, reporting that Robinson's email was registered on Ashley Madison, a website designed for married people seeking extramarital affairs.[51] Then, The Washington Post reported that "minisoldr" on Nude Africa discussed having extramarital sex with his wife's sister, and also praised Hitler's Mein Kampf.[49] Politico followed up by reviewing data breaches from multiple websites and found that Robinson's email address had also been registered with other previously unreported dating websites, and that the IP address associated with these accounts (including the Nude Africa account) was from a location not far from Robinson's home.[52]

Before the CNN and Politico stories broke, Robinson was reportedly pressured by staff and members of the Trump presidential campaign to withdraw from the gubernatorial race due to rumors of a controversial story leaking to the news that involved Robinson's activity on pornographic websites in the 2000s.[53][54] Jonathan Bridges, who managed the campaign of former congressman Mark Walker, and Scott Lassiter, a Republican candidate for state senate, both called on Robinson to suspend his campaign.[43] Robinson announced he planned to stay in the race.[44] The Democratic National Committee then launched an ad campaign in North Carolina to highlight Trump's endorsement of him.[55] Within three days of CNN's report, most of Robinson's gubernatorial campaign staff resigned, leaving only three staffers.[56][57] According to WRAL-TV, Robinson had repeatedly rebuffed offers from backers to get him in touch with specialized tech firms that could help him investigate the comments whose authenticity he was disputing, which led to a loss of trust among his former staffers.[58]

I mean, you can't read anything into a win against Robinson, apart from "Stein is a respectable human being, and his opponent was not". That an autopsy is trying to draw "lessons" from it is absurd.

question everything

(52,410 posts)
14. This is what I was hoping for Obama and Biden to do in 2017.
Thu May 21, 2026, 12:37 PM
5 hrs ago

To start travelling the country, to identify and encourage candidates.

MN Governor Walz is panning to do this in Minnesota once his term ends. Interestingly, he talked about teachers and other public workers. A letter to the editor then asked why not include small business owners.

Cheezoholic

(3,928 posts)
15. Exactly. I just posted about the Indiana promary's and how strong the Dem turnout was compared to the repuke
Thu May 21, 2026, 12:39 PM
5 hrs ago

I believe that the party is getting the message as they have committed more money on the State level midterms than ever before

LudwigPastorius

(15,011 posts)
17. Just playing devil's advocate here, but...
Thu May 21, 2026, 01:42 PM
4 hrs ago

is there any forensic evidence that a 50 state strategy would have flipped a hard red state for Harris, or that it would have helped her win some swing states?

I'm all for building Democratic infrastructure everywhere we can, but does it make sense, say two months out from an election, to pour the same amount of money into Oklahoma as Wisconsin?

Response to RandySF (Original post)

Seeking Serenity

(3,327 posts)
24. I hate that the Party cozied up to the oligarchs -- Big Pharma, Big Banks, Big Money, etc
Thu May 21, 2026, 03:10 PM
3 hrs ago

Hard to represent the interests of the "working classes" when you've snuggled up to those whose interests are antithetical to the lower classes.

Remember what Sen. Chuck Schumer said back in 2016 (I'm paraphrasing): For every working class vote we lose, we're picking up two upper middle class votes in the suburbs.

I don't get it.

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