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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAuthoritarians have studied protests. They've adapted, and the effectiveness of protests has dropped.
Becoming Dangerous: How to Go from Activist to OperativeThey have evolved; so must we.
CHRISTOPHER ARMITAGE
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intelligence agencies study what works. They gather information. They identify vulnerabilities. They apply pressure through coordinated operations.
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An operative understands exactly how power works in their specific context. They have the skills to independently gather intelligence and act effectively. An operative can make their target organization, or individual, feel the consequences of their choices every single day.
I want to be completely clear. I dont advocate for violence. Not because I have a moral problem with violence. I dont advocate for violence because the evidence unequivocally shows it is ineffective against authoritarian movements. If it worked Id encourage it. It doesnt. So I dont. What works is making power too costly to exercise. What works is making them think about you when theyre trying to fall asleep.
I get the impression that a lot of DUers haven't yet run across his writings. If they had, there'd be a bunch more folks sharing his quite brilliant work. He is the most prolific and innovative thinker I've ever encountered and his strategies are astute and aimed at what works. Footnoted too. He's published several books, including Conservatism: America's Personality Disorder. Some of his work has been accepted for peer-reviewed academic journals.
Fascinatingly eclectic experience.. Military service, worked for about ten years in a prison, became a lawyer, as well as author. Interviewed by Thom Hartmann and many others. His Substack, The Existentialist Republic, is the best place to get his articles and he makes a lot of his handbooks for activists free to download. His stuff isn't behind a paywall.
He has made the case for bar associations disbarring the corrupt members of SCOTUS, along with the case law they've violated and links to the publications whose investigative work exposed Clarence Thomas and Alito's. He personally filed a request for investigation and disbarment of John Roberts with the DC bar association.
An ever-growing Existentialist Republic activist community formed on Discord, divvying up interests and tasks to do research, develop scripts, advocate for his policies with members of state legislatures, attorneys general, DAs and county attorneys, etc.
LearnedHand
(5,631 posts)He IS an amazing writer and thinker and Im beginning to see his work echoed by politicians and state legislatures. Definitely worth reading this amazing organizer.
wnylib
(26,621 posts)government officials, especially authoritarians, but they do keep up the morale of the people by meeting others and knowing that they are not alone. They also help people organize locally and develop solutions to problems.
summer_in_TX
(4,330 posts)In his interview with Thom Hartmann recently he was wearing an Indivisible t-shirt.
Prairie_Seagull
(4,849 posts)IMO.
pat_k
(14,088 posts)JBTaurus83
(1,727 posts)Thanks for sharing.
Sympthsical
(11,184 posts)You've already been absorbed into the system. Processed, accounted for, noted.
Power is not afraid. Power is exploring ways to monetize that, too.
At the end of the day, a small group of people make a lot of money off the protests, and then the voters do exactly what they would have done anyway without the protest. Trump is not overthrown because of protests. He destroys himself. He would destroy himself without the protests. It's in his nature to destroy everything around him.
There are only two viable methods forward. The first is to bring the system to a halt through a general strike, but the American people won't do that. They are simply too comfortable and will not risk their livelihoods and security. It's a non-starter.
The second is to reach, persuade, and connect with voters - namely, people who are not themselves, who do not think like them, who do not necessarily share the same values or worldview. And that bumps into a nice little ironic paradox:
The people who create, run, and populate protest movements tend to be the same people who have no idea how to talk to or relate to voters. As a result, protesters are really only standing around talking to each other. Which, as noted in the OP, is neat for morale, but it is not the most productive use of time and resources. The results in people outside the protest are indifference at best or alienation through antagonizing at worst.
Trump himself and his own actions convert more voters than anyone in the modern incarnation of protest movements. In this digital age with social media, protests are increasingly masturbatory affairs that are about how the protesters see themselves more than any actual movement to effect change.
It's unfortunate, but there it is. Until someone rips the protest movement bodily from capitalistic self-indulgence, it's just spinning wheels and already well-incorporated into the system.
Do I know how to do that? Sure. Have normies talk to the normies - not the bug-eyed, tweets 100 times a day, clearly in need of a Xanax people who typically become the prominent voices of these movements. And stop inviting celebrities. They have the opposite effect intended.
As for Christopher Armitage. I've read his stuff in the past. Particularly on legal matters, he has no idea what he's talking about, but he writes well in such a way that people unfamiliar with the topics would think he knows. A lot of it is well-articulated pseudo-intellectual did-my-own-research nonsense. Which really should be the subtitle of half of substack at this point.
I don't begrudge anyone the quarterly picnics they've been having. But I do wish people were more clear-eyed about what it actually accomplishes, concretely, with evidence-based results and not just vibes. No one said the vibes weren't good. But vibes didn't stop Republicans from taking all three branches of government.
Nobody thinks protests "destroy" politicians. But they must be doing something effective, or why would you expend so many words to put them down?
As for street protests, all the constant honks of support from cars is "indifference"?
summer_in_TX
(4,330 posts)I didn't go. But a young friend with a lot of medical problems did. Her courage inspired me and I've attended ever since.
But I believe Chris Armitage when he says that other tactics make far more impact. Calling and writing state officials who hardly ever receive letters, contacting donors to the official and asking if they really want to donate to X official who has done XYZ, holding discussions with policymakers in the legislatures to persuade them to pass trigger laws that snap into place if certain actions occur, like federal troops at polling locations or other moves to subvert our elections.
Sympthsical
(11,184 posts)Inspiration, strengthen, vibes. I dunno. It's very Oprah-coded, which is where I think part of the problem stems. The performative and the spiritual has taken over from the concrete. People show up for marches, but then are nowhere to be found at the ballot box.
At the end of the day, someone is going to have to start talking to the voters and the people who don't participate in these things. Our party, and many of the movements of the past ten or so years, haven't shown themselves to be very skilled in this area.
The strength derived from these events reminds me of those videos you see. Men in the gym all day, bulging with muscles, rather impressive physical specimens. Then they're asked to do some manual labor task, and they can't do it. Meanwhile, some farmer who weighs 100 lbs less starts flinging bags of concrete around.
There's show of strength and application of strength. We show just fine. Can't apply it for shit.
If I sound grouchy, it's because I am stone cold over the performative aspects of politics. It's very 2010s. We're in 2026, and it bothers me to still read this stuff. Especially after 2024. The vibes were immaculate. $1 billion spent. We had joy! Remember the joy? And then . . .
Joy is nice. Votes are better.
ShazzieB
(22,966 posts)Your disdain of protesters and the events they organize take part in are duly noted. You have expressed your opinion, as is your right, and some of us beg to differ, as is our right.
Some of us derive inspiration, strength, and encouragement from making our voices heard out on the streets, in chorus with likeminded others, and we will continue to do so. Will we change many voters' minds thereby? Gee, I don't know. But who said that was the main purpose of these activities? I've always thought of protesting as a way for people to, as I said above, make our voices heard, in a much more powerful way than any of us could ever do on our own.
When a whole crowd of people gathers on a busy street to hold up signs and shout slogans together, interesting things happen. There's the affirmation and reassurance each of us gets from knowing we're not alone, something that we all need as much of as we can get these days. There are the reactions of passers-by, the honks, and the waves, that tell us there are many others who care about what's going on, beyond those of us who showed up with our signs. There's an energy that flows through and among all of us, protesters and passers-by alike, that is reviving and invigorating and gives us the strength we'll need to go on fighting in the weeks and months ahead.
Afterwards, we go home physically tired but mentally uplifted and recharged, cheered to know that we're not as isolated as we feared, that we actually have lots of company, and resolved to plunge with renewed vigor into the work that needs to be done. Work like talking to voters and working to change minds, which is very important, as you pointed out.
Showing up at a protest doesn't mean we're not going to do anything else. Some of us will be writing postcards, knocking on doors, phone banking, ir fund raising. And many of us will be talking to our friends and neighbors. Some will be doing all of the above. Some of those things may reap more tangible results than others, but all of them reinforce and support each other as well as those of us who do them.
Of course protesting alone doesn't win elections. What a silly idea! But to imply that they have no value at all seems like an equally silly idea to me. Protests are just part of the picture, but they have legitimate purposes, not the least of which is to support and reinforce our determination to continue with all of the other tasks that are necessary to win elections. If you don't get anything out of them, fine. You do you. Just please find a way to do you without raining on everybody else's parade, and don't make assumptions about what else we protesters may or may not be doing. And don't forget we ALL want the same thing, to save the country we love before it's too late!
littlemissmartypants
(34,808 posts)summer_in_TX
(4,330 posts)Is crossposting just copying and pasting it into a new post in that forum? Or is there another process?
littlemissmartypants
(34,808 posts)It's traditional to indicate that it's a cross post and what place on DU your cross post is from. For example, this would be from General Discussion.
If you are cross posting someone else's post, it's traditional to give them credit with a hat tip.
For example, if I cross post your OP (original post), I would include:
Cross post from (place) and the link with a hat Tip to
summer_in_TX.
That's how I learned to do it from the more senior DUers.
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ananda
(35,614 posts)more frequently..
in every state.