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0rganism

(25,736 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 05:23 PM Friday

Thinking about the Platner candidacy, I'm... as a certain senator might say... "concerned" about the general election

First off, and I do see this come up in online discussions from time to time, "it's a Maine voter thing, are you a voter in Maine?" Well, obviously and no, but the US senate is a deliberative body which has a high degree of control over which officials F47 gets to appoint to rape us repeatedly destroy this nation's institutions, and by how much. We all have an interest in the outcome, and considering the amount of interstate fundraising texts I receive from various political organizations, it appears the Democratic party generally agrees on this point.

OK, so here's what worries me. The primary campaign is well underway, and the Democratic frontrunner is getting slagged with a whole lot of scandal juice. Whether these scandals constitute a true set of "red flags" is a topic for further debate, of which we have several ongoing in this very forum. FWIW, I don't see these issues preventing him from winning the primary, but it does bode ill for the general. Once Platner's image as an unrepentant antisemite and misogynist solidifies, that presents a clear line of attack for the Collins campaign during the general. His campaign will already leak Jewish and female voters to Collins on the margins. She can already run as a stable "known quantity" statewide in contrast to a fresh face with apparent major flaws.

But this is still the primary. What are the Republican ratfuckers saving for the general? We know it's not nothing, and if it relies on pre-established "common sense" that Platner's an untrustworthy asshole, then that attack will be very efficient. If it hits hard in October, we'll be whining about how we suck at vetting candidates -- which is kind of true.

I think there is a way forward for Platner: present publicly as undergoing a strongly-positive character arc. He needs to embrace a repentant, redemptive position from which he can continue to call out Collins and enumerate her numerous flaws. He already has established himself with a broadly-popular platform, now he needs to build a character-driven narrative that can blunt whatever allegations come his way.

Unless -- and this is a weird take but the times deserve nothing less -- Platner's a stalking horse operating to lose a competitive senate race, fracture Democratic coalitions, and discredit progressive candidates generally. Then we're pretty well screwed anyway. However useless this line of thought may be, it does arise from time to time. So many people and organizations have turned against America and her people over the last decade, call it PTSD. But someone in the Democratic party leadership needs to get better at vetting candidates, 'cause we're withering under character attacks even when our candidates represent more popular policy platforms.

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Thinking about the Platner candidacy, I'm... as a certain senator might say... "concerned" about the general election (Original Post) 0rganism Friday OP
hard to creditably talk about 'vetted' candidates , when 'Democratic party leadership' stopdiggin Friday #1
fair points, I think; what role do you see Democratic party leadership having for "insurgent" candidates? 0rganism Friday #2
Yeah, the Democratic Party could oldmanlynn Friday #4
I really don't. stopdiggin Friday #5
More democrats clutch their pearls and talk about this oldmanlynn Friday #3

stopdiggin

(15,730 posts)
1. hard to creditably talk about 'vetted' candidates , when 'Democratic party leadership'
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:16 PM
Friday

is openly under attack - and pointedly identified as 'the problem' from a lot of our membership. Yeah?

And, as example - 'party leadership' had little or nothing to do with the establishment of Platner's candidacy. Platner would be much more aptly described as 'insurgency'

0rganism

(25,736 posts)
2. fair points, I think; what role do you see Democratic party leadership having for "insurgent" candidates?
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:32 PM
Friday

I do wonder if Mills took the other major swim lane for too long for a stronger rival to emerge. It certainly appears to be too late to introduce an alternative at this point -- I know of one other candidate in the race, and he barely has a media presence AFAICT. Do you have an opinion about how the Democratic party could help in this situation?

oldmanlynn

(874 posts)
4. Yeah, the Democratic Party could
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:50 PM
Friday

Come out and say that they’re aware of all these Republican shenanigans and that they don’t believe in any of them and that platner is the candidate move on

stopdiggin

(15,730 posts)
5. I really don't.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 07:29 PM
Friday

And I think we're bound for continued trouble as long as the 'party', and 'beltway' 'establishment' Democrats are considered the problem by so many. If anyone who as actually worked with - anything resembling the system or reins of power, is now considered tarnished 'insider' ... That perforce leaves nothing left but those having zero experience, and/or meaningful record. And it certainly would seem to preclude against anything resembling a vetting process. (by whom after all?)

As for the current situation - (and possible role for the party) - no, I don't think there is much to be done. The only really effective way to weed out candidates like Platner (if in fact that is what we really want to do) is for voters to stop pulling the lever for candidates like Platner. Stop being so credulous. Stop being so gullible. Stop voting for the virile male that looks good in a pull over. Full stop.

oldmanlynn

(874 posts)
3. More democrats clutch their pearls and talk about this
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:49 PM
Friday

More than the mainstream media. All they had to do is plant the seed and the circular firing squad starts.

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