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senseandsensibility

(25,915 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:37 PM Jun 7

Breaking MSNOW: "WH OFFICIAL SAYS TRUMP FUNDAMENTALLY MISCALCULATED

ON IRAN AFTER NEW ATTACKS AGAINST ISRAEL"

So... a "WH official" has spoken to MSNOW and said that trump "miscalculated"?

What was this "official's" first clue? I mean....wow. And it is going to take a lot more than anonymous leaks from this administration's yes men to fix this.

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Breaking MSNOW: "WH OFFICIAL SAYS TRUMP FUNDAMENTALLY MISCALCULATED (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jun 7 OP
This wouldn't be happening if Trump was capable of negotiating Renew Deal Jun 7 #1
Iran has time on their side sboatcar Jun 7 #13
Time to pull a Reagan and do our own deal, right? Ponietz Jun 7 #17
I didn't think about that, how brilliant would that be, to do an end run around the admin? sboatcar Jun 7 #26
Its not an issue of not being capable of negotiating but rather one of his choosing to try and dictate. cstanleytech Jun 7 #37
I think the meaning of that quote is to be more hawkish. They mean he shouldn't have RockRaven Jun 7 #2
Except that it wouldn't work that way either. More bombing Klarkashton Jun 7 #5
I am not saying they are correct, only what it seems to me that they mean. RockRaven Jun 7 #8
True. And he stopped bombing bc his Arab allies wnylib Jun 7 #20
Breaking News. Breaking News. Dumbass Trump does dumb shit. C_U_L8R Jun 7 #3
How can TSF miscalculate when he doesn't calculate at all? Sneederbunk Jun 7 #4
His gut instinct doesn't math very well. tanyev Jun 7 #6
shithole is the smartest person in the whole wide universe....................... Lovie777 Jun 7 #7
Verdict first.. then the trial. WheelWalker Jun 7 #41
He thinks he's smarter than he is ecstatic Jun 7 #9
He's stupid. This time his stupidity has reignited a mideast war and he has no way out. GoodRaisin Jun 7 #12
100% correct Raisin chicoescuela Jun 7 #32
Not just him purr-rat beauty Jun 7 #10
Things must be worse than we know SamuelTheThird Jun 7 #11
There was more than one moving part, what did they expect? /nt bucolic_frolic Jun 7 #14
No shit irisblue Jun 7 #15
I wonder LilElf70 Jun 7 #16
US casualties already cost too much: Justice matters. Jun 7 #33
Which one? Any reading between the lines? mr715 Jun 7 #18
It's likely someone from the state department. LuvLoogie Jun 7 #24
Ooo interesting. mr715 Jun 7 #29
He's playing Uno... Xolodno Jun 7 #19
lol! Kaleva Jun 7 #39
Oopsie doodle struggle4progress Jun 7 #21
He can't miscalculate because he doesn't calculate DavidDvorkin Jun 7 #22
Well, you have a point there senseandsensibility Jun 7 #23
He figured MBS and the other Arab leaders would get him out of this FakeNoose Jun 7 #25
And yet he's focused on going to a fucking basketball game..... tulipsandroses Jun 7 #27
Trump thinks it's a PR event that he is managing. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 7 #28
Just forgot to carry the 1. Sheesh pesky maths and stuff..... n/t gay texan Jun 7 #30
This is your daily reminder that Trump is a MORON!!!! Beacool Jun 7 #31
his uncle was a genius. trump, not so much Blues Heron Jun 7 #34
Trump has "miscalculated" every goddamn day of his miserable life LymphocyteLover Jun 7 #35
This wouldn't happen if imbeciles weren't playing war! Hope22 Jun 7 #36
But but Trump is the most geniusy genius that ever geniused. Beartracks Jun 7 #38
Don't TELL me, SHOW me! Aussie105 Jun 7 #40
Yadda Yadda, but will this prevent him from being the MVP at the NBA finals game? usonian Jun 7 #42
I read the title as "Fundamentally Emasculated" haele Jun 7 #43

Renew Deal

(85,455 posts)
1. This wouldn't be happening if Trump was capable of negotiating
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:41 PM
Jun 7

Trump has been lying about Irans desire for a deal from the beginning. He’s been the one most desperate to make something happen. Every statement from him is a confession.

sboatcar

(897 posts)
13. Iran has time on their side
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 07:22 PM
Jun 7

They know that there's elections coming up, so they'll just wait it out and make it more and more unpopular. After this latest round of attacks, Trump's response is so weak that they know they're negotiating from a position of power.
He'll give them whatever they want so he can say he made a peace deal.

cstanleytech

(28,684 posts)
37. Its not an issue of not being capable of negotiating but rather one of his choosing to try and dictate.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 09:10 PM
Jun 7

RockRaven

(19,972 posts)
2. I think the meaning of that quote is to be more hawkish. They mean he shouldn't have
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:42 PM
Jun 7

negotiated/stopped bombing them. At least, that is how it reads to me without further context.

I don't think it refers to the miscalculation at the very beginning of this bad business which we would all agree upon but almost everyone in the WH would still dispute.

Klarkashton

(5,483 posts)
5. Except that it wouldn't work that way either. More bombing
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:44 PM
Jun 7

Isn't going to make any difference.

wnylib

(26,739 posts)
20. True. And he stopped bombing bc his Arab allies
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 08:00 PM
Jun 7

who gave him tons of money and gifts in expectation of protection were being attacked by Iran. They told him to stop.

Donnie got himself into this mess with nobody to bail him out.

Lovie777

(24,269 posts)
7. shithole is the smartest person in the whole wide universe.......................
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:48 PM
Jun 7

everybody needs to be subservient because they are just stupid.

Whoever leaked that out will be tar and feather and fired. Better yet, DOJ and acting AG will indict the person.

ecstatic

(35,152 posts)
9. He thinks he's smarter than he is
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:51 PM
Jun 7
"You're talking about 47 years of getting away with whatever they wanted... This should've been done long ago. This should've been done by other presidents or other countries."


Instead of thinking, I wonder why other presidents have abstained from getting involved, his first thought is: For 47 years, other presidents did nothing about Iran! I'm smarter than all of them! I have more courage than them! I'm going to do something about Iran.

There will be many more "miscalculations," and a lot of people will die as a result.

GoodRaisin

(11,160 posts)
12. He's stupid. This time his stupidity has reignited a mideast war and he has no way out.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 06:59 PM
Jun 7

He is 100% responsible. He overplayed his “cards”.

He will go down as one of the worst world leaders in history because he started this.

Justice matters.

(10,184 posts)
33. US casualties already cost too much:
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 08:56 PM
Jun 7

Official U.S. casualty figures in the conflict with Iran stand at 13 service members killed in action and over 360 wounded.

The majority of the wounded sustained minor injuries, though a portion required serious medical treatment.

AND FOR WHAT? High gas prices? They should all be healthy and fine!

LuvLoogie

(9,020 posts)
24. It's likely someone from the state department.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 08:17 PM
Jun 7

One of Rubio's deputies. Or someone from the NSA.

mr715

(4,769 posts)
29. Ooo interesting.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 08:28 PM
Jun 7

Given the nature of the rumblings, I would've thought someone from Vance's camp, not Rubio nor Hegseth nor Wiles.

FakeNoose

(42,862 posts)
25. He figured MBS and the other Arab leaders would get him out of this
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 08:21 PM
Jun 7

Instead, they're letting him twist slowly in the wind....

Chump is on his own, and he knows he started this when he tore up Obama's treaty in 2018.
He deserves the opposite of the Nobel Peace Prize, whatever that may be.



tulipsandroses

(8,331 posts)
27. And yet he's focused on going to a fucking basketball game.....
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 08:25 PM
Jun 7

Just imagine if this was a democratic president. The media would lose their shit.

Hope22

(4,953 posts)
36. This wouldn't happen if imbeciles weren't playing war!
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 09:09 PM
Jun 7

Service members should be irate about the lack of planning and consideration. This is the kind of crap we marched against regarding Iraq!!

Beartracks

(14,707 posts)
38. But but Trump is the most geniusy genius that ever geniused.
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 09:16 PM
Jun 7

And we know this for a fact because he told us himself.

====================

Aussie105

(8,303 posts)
40. Don't TELL me, SHOW me!
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 09:27 PM
Jun 7

Who would have thought that the billions of taxpayers dollars 'invested' in the military industrial complex, and the God given moral superiority America assumes is theirs, would be insufficient to stomp a supposedly backwards country like Iran into the ground?

Yet here we are.

usonian

(26,977 posts)
42. Yadda Yadda, but will this prevent him from being the MVP at the NBA finals game?
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 09:37 PM
Jun 7

I understand that hackers have taken over the "Jumbotron" at Madison Square Garden and plan a UUUUUUGE surprise or two or tnree.

That would give him a stroke, since he physically cannot get a heart attack.





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