I have a jacket with an Iron Cross / skull on it-and the word Volkswagen and the VW emblem.

[Boxerfan]

I am not a Nazi sympathizer of any sort. Just an older hippie who went to a VW event & bought 2 of these old shop jackets cheap. I wore one out & this is a daily worn jacket.

Do you get my point?. It is / was cool. I do daily drive a 74 VW Bus.

When I was a kid in the 60's the Iron Cross was a common piece of clothing paraphernalia. A pin or patch the iron cross was just a "cool" symbol. It meant nothing symbolically to me or anyone else I knew.

This is the hand to god truth for me.


I hope you can give the same open thought to another errant use of symbolism. Skulls -I barely noticed the presence of it on my jacket patch till I started writing this. Not a fan.

But a lot of people think it's cool. Style not ideology.


my $.02

[dweller]

1. I think I just figured out

Your sobriquet … you’re a boxer engine fan



✌🏻

[Boxerfan]

2. I'd say great guess.

And Sobriquet is beyond me but I'll go by context.

It actually came from Barbara Boxer after she lambasted Condoleezza Rice for the "Osama Bin Laden " memo's....

I like / understand older cars. The bus kinda fell into my belonging at the same ( different year) car show. I did build the engine as I'm able. It is a good one & stays up with most traffic.

However driving my relative to the airport in heavy rain / wind gusts is white knuckle. It's a lightweight breadbox and mostly gets me around town.

Cheers!

[Melon]

3. The nazi used a lot of symbols. They weren't all original. I have a car club jacket that has an iron cross

Across the back. I would think twice about wearing it. You see it a lot in car culture.

[niyad]

4. Once again, I need to point out that there are otther issues, like his

ugly comments about women, about minorities, etc. All of them are being ignored. Why is that?

[ColoringFool]

8. Excellent Question, Given This Is A Primary And All Are Democrats.

[EdmondDantes_]

5. Is it the specific one used by the nazis?

The Iron Cross preceded Germany itself going back to the Prussians and continues to be used to this day. The nazi version had a swastika in it. The iron cross alone isn't problematic. But the specific one given by the nazis would be problematic to wear around.

Likewise there have obviously been many variations of a skull and crossbones, but the one used by the nazis has some specific details that separate it from other skull and crossbones. That's the one Platner had. Someone having the Jolly Rogers skull and crossbones, not a problem.

[Polybius]

6. Not the same thing

Even He-Man wore the Iron Cross.

[ColoringFool]

7. 1.) The Iron Cross Is Not Inherently Nazi. 2.) 2026 Is Hardly The....

Same milieu as the Sixties.

3.) It is not quite cricket to imply that an S.S. symbol is as much a "fashion statement" as the Maltese Cross. One would hardly suggest that wearing a US Army helmet is the same as wearing the distinctive curved Nazi helmet. Or that "Arbeit Macht Frei" are "just German words."

4.) One's own innocent thoughts and no-offense-intended deeds ought not be used as proof of what another has in mind.

[Emile]

9. The Maltese Cross