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JoihInMableton

(8 posts)
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 09:41 AM Saturday

Survival, actual not theoretical.

Please keep this discussion on the topic of physical preparation.

How do we survive the now arriving crises of rapid climate change and severe political instability?

Given that political avenues are closed, what practical steps can we take to protect our families physically?

For instance, where are the most resilient geographic regions in the US to relocate to (areas with high freshwater access and lower climate risk). What on-the-ground preparations should we prioritize?

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Survival, actual not theoretical. (Original Post) JoihInMableton Saturday OP
Further on JoihInMableton Saturday #1
The Great Lakes are the largest inland fresh water system. wnylib Saturday #4
I live in a place where agricultural productivity is expected to increase. hunter Saturday #2
Maybe not so crazy after all Blue Full Moon Saturday #3
Well it depends on your specific risks and the assets you can put in play 31j20b3 Saturday #5

JoihInMableton

(8 posts)
1. Further on
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 09:47 AM
Saturday

Let's discuss actual, physical survival in the face of converging climate and systemic crises.
If we take as a given that the climate is deteriorating rapidly and trust in institutional systems has evaporated, how do we protect our families?
Where are the most viable places to relocate for long-term resilience, and what specific, day-one skills or setups do we need to establish there?
Please keep replies focused on tangible, actionable strategies.

There are a lot of very smart people here so please join in.

wnylib

(26,734 posts)
4. The Great Lakes are the largest inland fresh water system.
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 02:49 PM
Saturday

The western lakes are farthest north, with harsher winters. The eastern lakes have warmer temps.

Possible Downsides. A couple of bordering states, like Ohio, get frequent tornado warnings, so that could be a concern without FEMA. Blizzards are a hazard sometimes from winds coming across the lakes, but not every year, not even every decade. Local communities are usually equipped to handle blizzards when they do happen.

There are dairy farms and lake plains for agriculture in the states that border the Great Lakes.




hunter

(40,926 posts)
2. I live in a place where agricultural productivity is expected to increase.
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 12:16 PM
Saturday

I doubt the people who live here will be happy when some military moves in and starts telling everyone what to do and disappearing those who do not comply. Armies must be fed.

It's one world. There are no "safe" places.

If there truly are any "safe places" it will be those that are pretty bleak, places where it's just possible by the barest of margins for a small community to eke out a living. And maybe not even then if "essential" resources as deemed by military powers are discovered in the place.

In major catastrophes death is more random than we like to believe. Human's tend to have a strong survivorship bias. We like to believe we will not be powerless when we are faced with overwhelming catastrophe.

31j20b3

(31 posts)
5. Well it depends on your specific risks and the assets you can put in play
Sat Jun 13, 2026, 02:54 PM
Saturday

I am not at all worried about flooding from glacier melt. My life is about 675 feet above sea-level.

BUT the north central US is becoming subject to dynamic temperature swings. Late March early April can now now bring 15 below zero mornings... right on top of my beautiful orchard fruit tree blossoms getting ready to to emerge

My old plans about fruit trees aren't dependable... they might yet provide a few good years in 6 of 10 years but nothing to build a life around.

I'm far enough north that shifting rain patterns rain are making a challenge. We're getting drier Marches and wetter Aprils followed by June droughts. Again ot something that will not wreck every year, but something that makes outcomes much more doubtful.. I can't imagine a future without a couple gallons of homemade rye whiskey a year. How will I ever live if I must drink booze made from beet roots? I've tried it, it isn't good.

I live in northern zone 5 and I plant fruit trees and perennial plant varieties capable of living as far north as zone 3 with a possibility of surviving heat and drought of zone 7-8

Somethings should grow... I hope




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