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pat_k

(14,459 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 05:11 PM 8 hrs ago

So much for "fully open" by Friday. It could take months to remove mines.

https://apnews.com/article/strait-of-hormuz-iran-us-shipping-war-01c1335e69e40f2ee921e25e59a18a71

Phillip Belcher, marine director of Intertanko, a trade group for global independent tanker owners, said the main central route of the Strait of Hormuz was still closed and has an estimated 80 mines that need to be cleared. But ships have been passing through the smaller northern route, which goes through Iranian waters, and the southern route, which goes through Omani waters.

However, it will take weeks or months to fully reopen the strait, and the two alternative routes don’t have as much capacity as the central passage in the Strait of Hormuz.

This is like a highway where the road in the middle is closed and you’re using that hard shoulder,” Belcher said. “That’s now being used as the main route. We need to get back to having the highway open.”

Lloyd’s List estimated that 550 merchant ships will need to prepare to exit the Persian Gulf, including 160 tankers, 200 bulk carriers, 60 container ships and 10 vehicle carriers.


Back in April
Clearing Strait of Hormuz of mines could take 6 months, Pentagon tells Congress

Trump says Iran deal will 'fully open' the Strait of Hormuz by Friday

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Johonny

(26,817 posts)
1. He made it another week on bullshit
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 05:21 PM
8 hrs ago

Really Trump is just in survival mode now. He hates the job, loves the title and just wants to escape the presidency with his billions he looted, and likely won't live long to enjoy.

wcmagumba

(6,869 posts)
4. All true, all the loot money will end up with dumb and dumber, in Javanka's island resort and a pittance to Barron...
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 05:30 PM
7 hrs ago

And Tiffany gets a big zero...

pat_k

(14,459 posts)
6. He has never told a truth that would reflect badly on him.
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 05:57 PM
7 hrs ago

And I would bet he's never told the full truth on anything.

Just as "he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever."

https://thehobbledehoy.com/tag/nate-white/

Someone on the question-and-answer website Quora asked “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:

A few things spring to mind.

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.

For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally:
not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.

Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.


pat_k

(14,459 posts)
10. Nate White's 2019 description of the troll remains my favorite of all time!
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 08:03 PM
5 hrs ago

If you haven't seen it before the entire thing is a must read.

pat_k

(14,459 posts)
5. Back in April pentagon said removing mines could take 6 months.
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 05:33 PM
7 hrs ago

I no longer have a subscription, so can't do a gift link, but the headline says it all.

Clearing Strait of Hormuz of mines could take 6 months, Pentagon tells Congress

pat_k

(14,459 posts)
8. He'll undoubtedly tout that the narrow coast hugging routes are "fully open"..
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 06:38 PM
6 hrs ago

... which somehow means the entire strait is fully open.

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