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PCIntern

(28,785 posts)
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 06:46 AM 9 hrs ago

MEDICAL ALERT: Update on observations of FTD and CHF/RF

(Fronto-Temporal Dementia, Congestive heart failure, and Renal failure)

We are watching an asymptotic progress towards medical crisis. The rate of decline is increasing so the mathematical second derivative is in play here.

He is routinely using obscenities in his public statements, he is no longer recognizing those who should be readily familiar to him, the texture of his skin is changing almost daily, his hair is rapidly thinning, the contours of his face are altered due to edema.

The skin is the largest organ in the body and is very much susceptible to significant metabolic changes as is every other organ. This of course includes the hair follicles. The intricate combover is essentially gone, replaced by a vain attempt to imitate it.

The inability to recognize individuals, which he manifest some time ago, is worsening before our eyes. They have him in relative isolation because he can no longer be allowed to extemporize freely. This began a long time ago when he could not distinguish a photo of the young E.Jean Carroll from Marla Maples Trump, his wife. This, for any other individual, would have been an “all hands on deck” moment.

At this rate, his ability to fake functionality will be essentially zero within two months at the outside.

I may be wrong: I once made a mistake and said “nobody’s perfect”. 😀. But this time…I don’t think so.

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MEDICAL ALERT: Update on observations of FTD and CHF/RF (Original Post) PCIntern 9 hrs ago OP
Our "all hands on deck" moment is the GOP's "clear the deck!" moment. eppur_se_muova 9 hrs ago #1
It's just a wafer thin mint... PCIntern 2 hrs ago #62
I am no Medical expert, but I have EXPERIENCE with Heart issues! ProudMNDemocrat 9 hrs ago #2
I'm sorry for your loss MustLoveBeagles 3 hrs ago #50
Thank you so much. ProudMNDemocrat 3 hrs ago #59
I got FTD for him EYESORE 9001 9 hrs ago #3
The stink from his diapers will overwhelm your flowers. KS Toronado 8 hrs ago #13
I knew a doctor iwillalwayswonderwhy 7 hrs ago #28
whatever end stage disease that causes his demise, it can't come soon enough LymphocyteLover 9 hrs ago #4
I agree MoseShrute 8 hrs ago #7
On one level I agree, Miguelito Loveless 3 hrs ago #55
How much damage could Jv do in two years? Tbear 1 hr ago #75
That's not a question that I would ask Wicked Blue 58 min ago #84
I suspect FTD as well Raven123 9 hrs ago #5
Briefly, I thought that episode very strange... Escape 7 hrs ago #31
I don't know, I think it is SO on brand for him LR3 3 hrs ago #52
From your keyboard 3Hotdogs 8 hrs ago #6
Don't threaten me with a good time!!! questionseverything 8 hrs ago #8
Famous line by Negan in Walking Dead.... FarPoint 7 hrs ago #22
Last March I had a nurse who had been doing it for 30 years and she said that any ..... Botany 8 hrs ago #9
Independence Day bucolic_frolic 7 hrs ago #30
Oh my, that would just be the best... ECL213 12 min ago #91
But he doesn't need to be able to fake functionality. Scrivener7 8 hrs ago #10
Once upon a time Miguelito Loveless 3 hrs ago #57
He's ditched the ridiculous hats lately too. Hugin 8 hrs ago #11
I think a hat messes up his new wig, gab13by13 8 hrs ago #14
He had a hat on yesterday IbogaProject 8 hrs ago #17
I'm going to start checking to see if it's file footage. Hugin 8 hrs ago #18
It was where recent danage to the WH Columns is shown IbogaProject 7 hrs ago #21
Great post and explanation. Better than the Meidas Touch (and other) youtuber videos promising "IT'S HAPPENING!!" or... QueerDuck 8 hrs ago #12
My favorites are: PCIntern 8 hrs ago #16
But Meidas Touch doubles and sometimes triples Scrivener7 7 hrs ago #26
They look like idiots... that's not the kind of "marketing" that impresses me. Our side needs to do better. QueerDuck 1 hr ago #73
They may not be trying to impress you... vanlassie 1 hr ago #74
I can see that my contempt for their repetitive nothing-burgers and clickbait style has probably ruffled the feathers... QueerDuck 1 hr ago #76
I can't stand Meidas Touch. But I LOVE vanlassie 1 hr ago #80
Gotcha! 🫂 QueerDuck 27 min ago #89
With the big yellow arrow mcar 7 hrs ago #24
Kick dalton99a 8 hrs ago #15
I'm sure the smell is worsening too wolfie001 7 hrs ago #19
Renal failure causes a distinct body and breath odor. RockCreek 6 hrs ago #35
Noice! No sympathy from me wolfie001 3 hrs ago #60
I try to look on the bright side too MustLoveBeagles 3 hrs ago #53
..... wolfie001 3 hrs ago #61
;-{) THIS Goonch 7 hrs ago #20
I noticed the hair. The hair makes the rest of this believable to MAGATs. Festivito 7 hrs ago #23
22 lying medical specialists? GusBob 7 hrs ago #25
Many years ago, I worked for an eye doctor. wnylib 4 hrs ago #40
can get all on Perjury dave99 3 hrs ago #49
Doesn't perjury apply only if the liar is under oath? wnylib 2 hrs ago #64
Just need a Democract, Raskin, to get the 22 to talk in front of a Congresstional Board dave99 55 min ago #86
trump went to Camp David possibly for treatment LetMyPeopleVote 7 hrs ago #27
Maybe FTD but radical noodle 7 hrs ago #29
Sure Jan.... (sadly) OhioBack2Blue 7 hrs ago #32
First of all... PCIntern 6 hrs ago #34
So you're saying he may be down to only 2 years left give or take. Torchlight 4 hrs ago #39
You don't know when he was initially diagnosed. BannonsLiver 4 hrs ago #47
True, but the more comorbidities Miguelito Loveless 3 hrs ago #58
When did he play golf last? The Madcap 6 hrs ago #33
*heehee* buzzycrumbhunger 1 hr ago #79
Couldn't he have the common decency to wait until the election night BLUE FUCKING WAVE to die? Submariner 6 hrs ago #36
This "patient" has been doing this for years. progressoid 5 hrs ago #37
Be that as it may, the deterioration is rapidly accelerating. flashman13 5 hrs ago #38
According to this site, The Felon has golfed every Saturday and Sunday the past 2 weeks Wednesdays 4 hrs ago #42
Last weekend was the gladiator games. This weekend Camp David. flashman13 4 hrs ago #44
Yeah, the last golf outing I could find cited outside that site was in March. Wednesdays 4 hrs ago #46
Well they are SAYING he's playing golf, that much is certain. BannonsLiver 3 hrs ago #48
22 specialists say he is the healthiest man ever to occupy the oval office. flashman13 2 hrs ago #66
Yep. Nobody has ever seen anything like it before. BannonsLiver 2 hrs ago #67
Oh, I hate that phrase soooo much. The Madcap 1 hr ago #82
And I know people who smoked 2 1/2 packs a day and lived to nearly 100 PCIntern 4 hrs ago #41
We could go through thousands of posts detailing trump's poor health over the last 11 years progressoid 2 hrs ago #63
I knew Reagan had early Alzheimer's in his first term PCIntern 2 hrs ago #65
Right. progressoid 2 hrs ago #70
Alzheimer's in particular can progress at varying speeds PCIntern 2 hrs ago #71
There's also roadkill loon RFK Jr. running the Dept. of Health Wicked Blue 44 min ago #88
I hope you're right. However I've been waiting for him to disappear for quite some time... NNadir 4 hrs ago #43
Like a monkey, he will eventually start throwing shit at people. Dan 4 hrs ago #45
Followed by... The Madcap 1 hr ago #83
Got fireworks on standby!!! N/t gay texan 3 hrs ago #51
For some reason wendyb-NC 3 hrs ago #54
trumps his ugly & dumber twin MustLoveBeagles 3 hrs ago #56
They are propping up Vance is also a big tell on the orange one's future. boston bean 2 hrs ago #68
Yup, they have him all over the place obamanut2012 2 hrs ago #69
The day Orange Julius Caesar dies, the US will have TWO Independence Days to celebrate! generalbetrayus 2 hrs ago #72
The downside of this genetic combination of Anolis lizard and octopus that has laid her last eggs DFW 1 hr ago #77
Well what about President Jeffries? NNadir 1 hr ago #78
Even assuming we take the House DFW 49 min ago #87
I'm fairly confident we will take the house. NNadir 16 min ago #90
That is a very scary situation! CaliforniaPeggy 1 hr ago #81
The suspense is killing me buzzycrumbhunger 57 min ago #85

eppur_se_muova

(42,879 posts)
1. Our "all hands on deck" moment is the GOP's "clear the deck!" moment.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:06 AM
9 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Nobody wants to be too close when he blows.

ProudMNDemocrat

(21,029 posts)
2. I am no Medical expert, but I have EXPERIENCE with Heart issues!
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:09 AM
9 hrs ago

In the 6 months before my husband died, he changed so much medically and in personality.

Skin changes: More bruises in places not usually prone to be struck. More puffiness due to fluid retention. The whites of his eyes looking more yellow.

Obvious physical changes: More Exhaustion. He would complain he was so tired after getting what I could see a good night's sleep. Less physical activity. Balance issues becoming more noticeable. Loss of appetite. More anger and cruel words.(I was his caregiver and it was not easy.) More frequent memory loss due to lack of blood flow to the brain.

Medical changes: Shortness of breath. Edema everywhere from Kidney failure. Irregular heart rates. Agitation due to growing awareness of death.

Donald Trump is exhibiting all these signs. His awful appearance at the G7 was obvious. He has Congestive Heart Failure with growing Kidney and Liver failure. The changes in the skin turning more yellow and orange from higher Bilirubin levels. Some turn more white. My husband was turning orange and bruised. He was also a Type II Diabetic. When I could no longer care for him, my husband was taken to another section of the Facility where he could get more care and supervision. 11 days later, he was dead.

It is becoming more obvious that Donald Trump is deteriorating rapidly. His tweets are becoming more erratic and paranoid in tone. It's time for the 25th Amendment.

MustLoveBeagles

(18,233 posts)
50. I'm sorry for your loss
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:47 PM
3 hrs ago

It must've been heartbreaking for you to see your husband turn into a stranger. My grandma and mom were in a similar situation.

ProudMNDemocrat

(21,029 posts)
59. Thank you so much.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:33 PM
3 hrs ago

It has been a year now, but I remember all of this as if it were yesterday.

Miguelito Loveless

(6,039 posts)
55. On one level I agree,
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:20 PM
3 hrs ago

on the other the guy who currently calls himself Vance and who is totally beholden to Peter Thiel.

Tbear

(753 posts)
75. How much damage could Jv do in two years?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:03 PM
1 hr ago

Assuming a democratic House. Theil’s best chance as it will be.

Wicked Blue

(9,077 posts)
84. That's not a question that I would ask
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:40 PM
58 min ago

Repukes are capable of the most horrible deeds.

Raven123

(8,015 posts)
5. I suspect FTD as well
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:31 AM
9 hrs ago

His hallucinating over Meloni recently was the most obvious reminder.

Escape

(541 posts)
31. Briefly, I thought that episode very strange...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:35 AM
7 hrs ago

Of course, he lies constantly, but to make up such a silly story based on nothing was bizarre...BUT, as the disaster of the Iran War, his idiotic birthday bash and the green slime pool were unfolding, the media and the American people were captivated by the blatant bullshit about Meloni.

So, it became the distraction du jour, just as it was intended.

LR3

(212 posts)
52. I don't know, I think it is SO on brand for him
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:55 PM
3 hrs ago

To me, it seems like a classic example of his narcissism--everyone is begging for his attention because he is the world's most powerful, wonderful, and in demand person in all of history in his mind.

Botany

(78,193 posts)
9. Last March I had a nurse who had been doing it for 30 years and she said that any .....
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:54 AM
8 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:10 AM - Edit history (2)

…. patient that exhibited the signs she saw from Trump was gone in under a year either
dead or cognitively. I hope she was right. The White House is trying to hide it but they
can’t any longer. When he stormed out of his interview with NBC’s Welker he could barely
stand up and walked away with slumped shoulders too.

Could the 4th really be a real Independence Day?


Edit

Trump’s break down mentally can be seen in his use of obscene language in public,
his preposterous claims that vandals are what is wrong with the reflecting pool after
he fucked it up, that Italy’s President (P.M.?) begged him to get her picture taken
with him, and forgetting about diplomacy telling Iran that he is going to over the strait
of Hormuz along with stealing their oil as peace talks are underway. He has no more
filters.

He is also has been in hiding @ Camp David and he posted something about Father’s
Day to an unknown daughter.



bucolic_frolic

(56,287 posts)
30. Independence Day
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:19 AM
7 hrs ago

The Deliverance, the Irony, the Symbolism

May our Founders have their Day

ECL213

(467 posts)
91. Oh my, that would just be the best...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:26 PM
12 min ago

Then every year we could celebrate his death with fireworks.

Scrivener7

(60,312 posts)
10. But he doesn't need to be able to fake functionality.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:58 AM
8 hrs ago

That's always been the problem. He could strip naked and run through the streets and the press will say he's being "unorthodox" or he's "giving a strong message."

Miguelito Loveless

(6,039 posts)
57. Once upon a time
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:25 PM
3 hrs ago

I said the Child Rapist could beat a kitten to death with a puppy on the White House lawn and the Corporate Media and his followers would praise him for helping homeless animals.

I have since modified it to "Trump could rape young MAGA daughters, and the Corporate Media™ would praise him for addressing women's issues, while MAGA would berate their wives for not birthing enough daughters."

Hugin

(38,099 posts)
11. He's ditched the ridiculous hats lately too.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:00 AM
8 hrs ago

Looking back it seems to have happened a couple of months ago. I didn’t realize it until I saw the military propaganda video.

Hugin

(38,099 posts)
18. I'm going to start checking to see if it's file footage.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:37 AM
8 hrs ago

It’s also possible that occasionally a handler hands him a hat. It doesn’t seem internally vanity driven lately.

QueerDuck

(2,094 posts)
12. Great post and explanation. Better than the Meidas Touch (and other) youtuber videos promising "IT'S HAPPENING!!" or...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:02 AM
8 hrs ago

... "TODAY IS THE DAY!" or "TRUMP COLLAPSES!" or "OMG HE'S DYING!" with their fake proclamations and clickbait promises and AI-generated-yellow-arrow-Impact-font fake thumbnails.

This actually gives me hope! Thank you!

Scrivener7

(60,312 posts)
26. But Meidas Touch doubles and sometimes triples
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:05 AM
7 hrs ago

Joe Rogan's viewerships. Because of that marketing. They're reaching the ones who are not like us. I am grateful to them for that.

QueerDuck

(2,094 posts)
73. They look like idiots... that's not the kind of "marketing" that impresses me. Our side needs to do better.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:44 PM
1 hr ago

How many times can someone hear "HE'S DYING" or "HE COLLAPSED" and "TODAY IS THE DAY" before they realize it's all bullshit. --- It just sucks people into a vortex or hype, snake-oil, broken promises, empty lies, repetitition, along with gloom and doom, and "please subscribe" requests. It benefits only their bottom line. They have become the commercialized "main stream media" that they used to criticize.

But having said that: "At least they're on our side. Yay. I guess."

vanlassie

(6,293 posts)
74. They may not be trying to impress you...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:51 PM
1 hr ago

“Meidas Touch doubles and sometimes triples
6:05 AM
Joe Rogan's viewerships. Because of that marketing. They're reaching the ones who are not like us. ”

QueerDuck

(2,094 posts)
76. I can see that my contempt for their repetitive nothing-burgers and clickbait style has probably ruffled the feathers...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:05 PM
1 hr ago

...of at least one of fans and admirers. Sorry.

"They may not be trying to impress you..." Ha! Ya think? 😂🤣

I guess I just have higher standards. We can do better than those guys.

vanlassie

(6,293 posts)
80. I can't stand Meidas Touch. But I LOVE
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:29 PM
1 hr ago

anything that gets the attention of people who like that shit.

It’s not about us. 😉

wolfie001

(8,161 posts)
19. I'm sure the smell is worsening too
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:44 AM
7 hrs ago

I find it comforting that his closest bootlickers are having to deal with Dump's 3D stink-O-vision in real time.

RockCreek

(1,620 posts)
35. Renal failure causes a distinct body and breath odor.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:11 AM
6 hrs ago

The bottom stench may serve a function of covering up that smell.

Festivito

(13,948 posts)
23. I noticed the hair. The hair makes the rest of this believable to MAGATs.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:58 AM
7 hrs ago

They do have their breaking point.

Does his body end before the war ends? Or before our strategic fuel supply runs dry.

GusBob

(8,322 posts)
25. 22 lying medical specialists?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:01 AM
7 hrs ago

What exactly the sanction against them?
Are they committing fraud or treason ?
Do they all know, or is the truth covered up from each specialist? ( I.e the eye guy doesn’t get the whole history and his told: your report is eyes only, nothing else ) given that, are they practicing full scope quality of care or substandard inadequate voodism?
Are all medical specialists MD’s ? Are there some sort who take no oath?
If your theory is correct, they are putting the safety of the nation and the world at risk, I wonder: how can they sleep at night?

wnylib

(26,775 posts)
40. Many years ago, I worked for an eye doctor.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:06 PM
4 hrs ago

He told me that several disorders can be diagnosed or suspected in eye exams. As he put it, the eye is the mirror of the body, not just the "soul" as poets say.

He said that he could tell things like when a woman was pregnant even if her pregnancy was not yet visible.

I have an autoimmune disorder that was discovered after an eye doctor told me, following an exam, that I needed to see an internist for a complete physical because there was something systemic that was causing my blurred vision. She did not know what the specific cause was, but she knew that my vision had changed too much in just one year for an adult. She suspected diabetes bc it exists in.my family. She was not far off. It is not diabetes, which is also an autoimmune disorder, but mine can show up in families where diabetes is present.

So an eye specialist would know if more was going on with Trump than vision problems.

Disorders in one system can show symptoms in other systems of the body. That's why a doctor will suspect something in a physical and refer a patient to a different specialist.

Trump's 22 doctors are all most likely aware of other medical issues in him besides their own specialties.

wnylib

(26,775 posts)
64. Doesn't perjury apply only if the liar is under oath?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:48 PM
2 hrs ago

Were the doctors under oath when they gave their reports to the press?

dave99

(484 posts)
86. Just need a Democract, Raskin, to get the 22 to talk in front of a Congresstional Board
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:43 PM
56 min ago

Wonder what any of the 22 will say?

radical noodle

(10,737 posts)
29. Maybe FTD but
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:10 AM
7 hrs ago

I tend to think this is just a malignant narcissist who has been given unlimited power to do whatever he wants. He's always been this way, but just on a different level. The Supreme Court gave him immunity and the GOP has given him a blank check, which means he believes he can do all those things that deep down he's always wanted to do.

OhioBack2Blue

(225 posts)
32. Sure Jan.... (sadly)
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:37 AM
7 hrs ago

The average life expectancy for Frontotemporal dementia (FTD) is typically 6 to 13 years from the onset of symptoms, with many patients living about 7.5 to 10 years. However, progression rates vary, and some individuals can live for 20 years or more after the first signs of the disease.

Congestive Heart Failure (CHF) life expectancy varies significantly. While average estimates suggest about half of people survive past 5 years post-diagnosis, many live 10 to 15 years or longer.

PCIntern

(28,785 posts)
34. First of all...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:50 AM
6 hrs ago

Onset was not last week…he’s in a definite medical crisis. If he came into my office I’d send him right to the ER if he hadn’t already been in treatment. I think he’s had FTD for a long time now, it’s worsening rapidly.

That’s my considered opinion as someone who has worked with this geriatric population for nearly 50 years and in addition, watched my father go through the heart failure and concomitant kidney failure.

Torchlight

(7,202 posts)
39. So you're saying he may be down to only 2 years left give or take.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:42 AM
4 hrs ago

...dependent on interpretation of asserted data.

BannonsLiver

(21,014 posts)
47. You don't know when he was initially diagnosed.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:35 PM
4 hrs ago

I’m not sure I buy into the OPs hypothesis. There has been a lot of prognostication on this subject. but I don’t buy into the “he’s fine, he’ll live another decade” side of the argument either.

Miguelito Loveless

(6,039 posts)
58. True, but the more comorbidities
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:30 PM
3 hrs ago

the shorter that can be. Also, he started exhibiting dementia signs a decade ago.

The Madcap

(2,150 posts)
33. When did he play golf last?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:42 AM
6 hrs ago

How many holes? Final score?

I would think that once he stops, it's a signal of "GAME OVER."

buzzycrumbhunger

(2,371 posts)
79. *heehee*
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:24 PM
1 hr ago

I doubt we’ve *ever* seen an accurate golf score for him. He lies about golf more than anything. Just think of all those tournaments at his course in which he declared total victory. I haven’t golfed since high school, I shattered my knee almost 20 years ago, and I bet even I could still beat him if someone impartial kept score.

Submariner

(13,486 posts)
36. Couldn't he have the common decency to wait until the election night BLUE FUCKING WAVE to die?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:26 AM
6 hrs ago

Of all the fucking nerve to appear to be getting ready to croak at the Camp David Hospice as summer fun kicks off.

I guess we should probably start reserving bicycle beer bars to follow the funeral procession for the party of the century.

progressoid

(53,527 posts)
37. This "patient" has been doing this for years.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:01 AM
5 hrs ago
-He is routinely using obscenities in his public statements
-he is no longer recognizing those who should be readily familiar to him
-The inability to recognize individuals

-etc


Heck, I know someone who exhibited most of these symptoms and was able to function independently until he was 91. He's still going at 93 today.

flashman13

(2,624 posts)
38. Be that as it may, the deterioration is rapidly accelerating.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:38 AM
5 hrs ago

The real give away is that he has quit playing golf. No question, FTD is on full display.

Wednesdays

(23,428 posts)
42. According to this site, The Felon has golfed every Saturday and Sunday the past 2 weeks
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:19 PM
4 hrs ago

And at least once a week since May 2.

Don't know how accurate the site is, so take the info as you will.


https://didtrumpgolftoday.com/

Having said that, as PCIntern pointed out, that doesn't at all mean he doesn't have FTD, CHF, or RF.

Wednesdays

(23,428 posts)
46. Yeah, the last golf outing I could find cited outside that site was in March.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:35 PM
4 hrs ago

OAN posted June 5 a video he put on Truth Social of him teeing off. But who knows when that video was actually shot? And if recent, was that all the golf he played that day?


On edit: this article from June 1 says The Felon "played golf," but details are scant. How many holes did he play? How well did he do? They just comment on the "mystery blonde" that accompanied him. Any bets that the "mystery blonde" was an undercover physician or nurse?
https://www.themirror.com/sport/golf/donald-trump-rocks-up-golf-1864202

BannonsLiver

(21,014 posts)
48. Well they are SAYING he's playing golf, that much is certain.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:41 PM
3 hrs ago

Who knows if it’s actually happening, though. Like everything else with this cabal it is hazardous to take anything at face value.

The Madcap

(2,150 posts)
82. Oh, I hate that phrase soooo much.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:34 PM
1 hr ago

Every time I watch baseball on MLB, there's an ad for tennis coverage which contains a variation on that statement. It is so annoying, I turn the volume down when I know it's coming.

PCIntern

(28,785 posts)
41. And I know people who smoked 2 1/2 packs a day and lived to nearly 100
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:13 PM
4 hrs ago

Most who did that died way way sooner. You only remember the exceptions to the rule.

For example: when’s the last time you heard someone say, “Look at the real tall old man !”? Sure there are a few, but most are gone early, relatively speaking.

progressoid

(53,527 posts)
63. We could go through thousands of posts detailing trump's poor health over the last 11 years
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:44 PM
2 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:18 PM - Edit history (1)

and find all sorts of diagnoses and claims of his imminent demise. And yet he goes on.

Yes, he has become more erratic over the last decade. And he has certainly slowed with age - as we all have. However, he has a few things we don't have: Some of the best doctors in the US. A cadre of people (like the project 2024 clan) who have a vested interest in keeping him in office. And most importantly, he has a sycophantic, cowardly media that will cover for any diminished functioning he is experiencing.

We all watched Reagan's decline while in office and he also managed to hang in there and inflict more damage to the US.

PCIntern

(28,785 posts)
65. I knew Reagan had early Alzheimer's in his first term
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:50 PM
2 hrs ago

Which was obvious to some clinicians because he had that fixation on the clear glass jar of jellybeans which had to be omnipresent. But virtually nobody I recall had a countdown for his passing. He was clearly a physically prodigious specimen.

progressoid

(53,527 posts)
70. Right.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:16 PM
2 hrs ago

And yet Ronnie continued to sit in the oval office and fuck up our nation until the end of his term.

I suppose I don't understand this fascination with Trump's physical health.

PCIntern

(28,785 posts)
71. Alzheimer's in particular can progress at varying speeds
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:35 PM
2 hrs ago

His condition was not rapid like Trump’s is.

The reason it’s a subject of interest is that it’s the ultimate rate-limiting thing that will end this cult once and for all. They will find other people to glom onto, but he or she will not have the staying power coupled with the arrogance, narcissism, and plain stupidity of this guy.

Wicked Blue

(9,077 posts)
88. There's also roadkill loon RFK Jr. running the Dept. of Health
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:54 PM
44 min ago

and who knows what weird things he's suggesting for T-rump.

Eye of newt, toe of frog, crack cocaine, algae from the Reflecting Pool ...

NNadir

(38,832 posts)
43. I hope you're right. However I've been waiting for him to disappear for quite some time...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:23 PM
4 hrs ago

...and regrettably he is still here.

DFW

(60,748 posts)
77. The downside of this genetic combination of Anolis lizard and octopus that has laid her last eggs
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:07 PM
1 hr ago

Is “President” JD Vance, and even if the Republicans “persuade” him to step down, whether using the Goldwater Method or the Putin Method, then there’s “President” Mike Johnson to worry about.

We are, in both scenarios, a very large rudderless battleship with nuclear ordnance.

DFW

(60,748 posts)
87. Even assuming we take the House
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:49 PM
49 min ago

That would dissolve every Republican incentive to carry out any plans that they or Putin may have in place for Vance to start taking lessons for his pilot’s licence from some tenth floor hotel room.

NNadir

(38,832 posts)
90. I'm fairly confident we will take the house.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:22 PM
16 min ago

A President Jeffries seems as unlikely, I confess as say, in 2015, an ignorant, badly educated, inarticulate, racist, orange, pedophile becoming President of the United States.

It sounds like the plot of a badly scripted science fiction/horror film, totally unbelievable.

Improbable things do happen, not only for bad, but here and there for good.

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