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BumRushDaShow

(154,511 posts)
Mon May 5, 2025, 04:45 AM May 5

Israel plans to capture all of Gaza under new plan, officials say

Last edited Mon May 5, 2025, 08:51 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: AP

Updated 7:26 AM EDT, May 5, 2025


TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Israel approved plans Monday to capture the entire Gaza Strip and remain in the Palestinian territory for an unspecified amount of time, two Israeli officials said, a move that, if implemented, would vastly expand Israel’s operations in Gaza and likely bring fierce international opposition. Israeli Cabinet ministers approved the plan in an early morning vote, hours after the Israeli military chief said the army was calling up tens of thousands of reserve soldiers.

The new plan, which the officials said was meant to help Israel achieve its war aims of defeating Hamas and freeing hostages held in Gaza, also calls for hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to move to Gaza’s south — which would likely lead to their forcible displacement and exacerbate an already dire humanitarian crisis.

One of the officials said the plan would be implemented gradually in an attempt to give efforts for a ceasefire and hostage release deal a chance to move ahead. Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were discussing military plans.

Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 after a decades-long occupation and then imposed a blockade on the territory along with Egypt. Capturing and potentially occupying the territory again for an indefinite period would not only further dash hopes for Palestinian statehood, it would embed Israel inside a population that is deeply hostile to it and raise questions about how Israel plans to govern the territory, especially at a time when it is considering how to implement U.S. President Donald Trump’s vision to take over Gaza.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-05-05-2025-d22caabfd2cf89e83fe06e649e6438ba



Article updated.

Original article -

Updated 4:23 AM EDT, May 5, 2025


TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Israel approved plans on Monday to capture the entire Gaza Strip and remain in the territory for an unspecified amount of time, two Israeli officials said, in a move that if implemented would vastly expand Israel’s operations in the Palestinian territory and likely bring fierce international opposition.

Israeli Cabinet ministers approved the plan in an early morning vote, hours after the Israeli military chief said the army was calling up tens of thousands of reserve soldiers.

The new plan, which the officials said was meant to help Israel achieve its war aims of defeating Hamas and freeing hostages held in Gaza, also would push hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to southern Gaza, what would likely exacerbate an already dire humanitarian crisis.

Since a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas collapsed in mid-March, Israel has unleashed fierce strikes on the territory that have killed hundreds. It has captured swathes of territory and now controls roughly 50% of Gaza. Before the truce ended, Israel halted all humanitarian aid into Gaza, including food, fuel and water, setting off what is believed to the be the worst humanitarian crisis in nearly 19 months of war. The ban on aid has prompted widespread hunger and shortages have set off looting.
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Israel plans to capture all of Gaza under new plan, officials say (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 5 OP
Wouldn't that "tactic" encourage Palestinians in Gaza to fall back no_hypocrisy May 5 #1
...and wouldn't that help keep Netanyahu in power? regnaD kciN May 5 #3
No surprise. The pariah nation continues it's war crimes. brush May 5 #2
Israel will take over all of Gaza AverageOldGuy May 5 #4
Mar-a-Gaza is just a distraction. AloeVera May 5 #8
No one seems willing to do anything to stop Israel's planned genocide of Palestinians. Lonestarblue May 5 #17
Same plan, different day. twodogsbarking May 5 #5
Get ready for Trump's Gaza Casino! Tables, slots and top acts. bronxiteforever May 5 #6
The blood and injustice of this takeover of all of Palestine is on Trump and Netanyahu's hands and ALL Jit423 May 5 #7
Since when is this a "new" plan? Ray Bruns May 5 #9
They wouldn't admit it before IronLionZion May 5 #14
Indefinite occupation wasn't the original plan after 10/7. maxsolomon May 5 #19
Israel is making a good case to the world that they should be squashed. travelingthrulife May 5 #10
Who's going to "squash" Israel? maxsolomon May 5 #20
I wouldn't blame Gazans who leave, provided the destination seemed more livable HereForTheParty May 5 #11
And go where? The sea? IronLionZion May 5 #15
This is genocide in action and another huge theft of land by criminal Netanyahoo. lark May 5 #12
That has always been the plan. They'll drive Palestinians into Egypt IronLionZion May 5 #13
Reminds me of Russia's claim of Ukraine. walkingman May 5 #16
And trump's claim on Greenland Bayard May 5 #18
Maybe people here should have voted for the woman mcar May 5 #21
"...would likely lead to their forcible displacement..." LudwigPastorius May 5 #22
I support Anti-Zionism walkingman May 5 #23

no_hypocrisy

(51,856 posts)
1. Wouldn't that "tactic" encourage Palestinians in Gaza to fall back
Mon May 5, 2025, 05:40 AM
May 5

on Hamas as they see no other alternative to keep their land?

And wouldn't that "tactic" discourage the release of the remaining hostages as Hamas would see the situation as "nothing to lose"?

AverageOldGuy

(2,650 posts)
4. Israel will take over all of Gaza
Mon May 5, 2025, 07:06 AM
May 5

After which they will turn over the beachfront property to Trump where he will build condos. That's been the plan all along.

AloeVera

(2,992 posts)
8. Mar-a-Gaza is just a distraction.
Mon May 5, 2025, 08:59 AM
May 5

The real plan all along - since decades before Oct 7th - was to drive Palestinians out and annex Gaza to Israel. It will happen to the West Bank too. It won't stop there.

Who will stop Israel?

Lonestarblue

(12,665 posts)
17. No one seems willing to do anything to stop Israel's planned genocide of Palestinians.
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:57 AM
May 5

And that includes Arab nations. Netanyahu seems to believe that if he kills as many Palestinians as possible and takes control of all their land, any remaining Palestinians will simply give up and either accept Israel by giving up all their rights or be forced to beg other countries to allow them to live there with no rights and probably in utter poverty with only menial work allowed because countries like Egypt are not rich and have their own citizens to protect.

With Trump supporting essentially anything Netanyahu chooses to do, the fate of the Palestinians is looking pretty dire.

bronxiteforever

(10,493 posts)
6. Get ready for Trump's Gaza Casino! Tables, slots and top acts.
Mon May 5, 2025, 07:34 AM
May 5

Featuring opening performances by Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, Roseann Barr and headlined by Ye!

Jit423

(1,421 posts)
7. The blood and injustice of this takeover of all of Palestine is on Trump and Netanyahu's hands and ALL
Mon May 5, 2025, 07:53 AM
May 5

the people who have and continue to support this sanctioned genocide.
There is no peace.

IronLionZion

(49,163 posts)
14. They wouldn't admit it before
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:21 AM
May 5

but they feel comfortable saying it openly now with Trump's support

maxsolomon

(36,656 posts)
19. Indefinite occupation wasn't the original plan after 10/7.
Mon May 5, 2025, 12:16 PM
May 5

It was "destroy Hamas and their infrastructure, retrieve the Hostages".

Occupation doesn't appear to be a viable approach. It will need too many Israeli troops, and Hamas will have plenty of targets as a guerilla army fighting on its home turf.

I wonder if it's essentially a bluff.

travelingthrulife

(2,637 posts)
10. Israel is making a good case to the world that they should be squashed.
Mon May 5, 2025, 09:59 AM
May 5

Bibi is doing as much damage to Israel as Trump is doing to us.

Just to be clear, I do not want Israel or Gaza squashed. Israel is losing world wide support though.

maxsolomon

(36,656 posts)
20. Who's going to "squash" Israel?
Mon May 5, 2025, 12:20 PM
May 5

No one. They have nuclear weapons.

Israel makes a good case that religious nationalists shouldn't control a democratic government.

 

HereForTheParty

(915 posts)
11. I wouldn't blame Gazans who leave, provided the destination seemed more livable
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:14 AM
May 5

I say that as someone who's been strongly pro-Gazan since I developed some awareness on the issue. What Israel has and is doing is horrific. My heart breaks for Gazans and I'm nauseated by how my country and party support Israel.

No, I don't want Israel to be "rewarded". I don't want Gazans to lose their homeland. But the reality is this has been a nightmare existence for decades. Most Gazans have spent their entire lives under the boot.

And there doesn't seem to be change anywhere on the horizon. The US support is stubborn and the most powerful of countries that support Gazans aren't willing to do much of anything but vote on resolutions. The American and Israeli left wings can't flip their country's direction.

Enough. I want better for them. A historical injustice, but the injustice may be more survivable elsewhere. There are future generations to consider. Who am I to insist they live like this and "not give up the fight".

All that said, I also understand those who won't leave. I try to imagine if the US were put under that type or seige and how difficult it would be to go. But if it might be a better path for me and future generations it certainly would seem something to heavily consider.

IronLionZion

(49,163 posts)
15. And go where? The sea?
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:23 AM
May 5

For them to leave, they need a place to go. I wouldn't be surprised if Israel and US use military force on Egypt to take them at gunpoint.

lark

(25,133 posts)
12. This is genocide in action and another huge theft of land by criminal Netanyahoo.
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:17 AM
May 5

Israel is a pariah state for a very good reason - they earned it!

IronLionZion

(49,163 posts)
13. That has always been the plan. They'll drive Palestinians into Egypt
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:19 AM
May 5

Trump will withdraw all US aid to Egypt until they give in. Israel's plan all along was to make Gaza unlivable so there are no other options but to purge everyone.

walkingman

(9,374 posts)
23. I support Anti-Zionism
Mon May 5, 2025, 07:29 PM
May 5

which is very different than Anti-Semitism. The new plan is pretty clear of it's intent.

Anti-Semitism is "hostility and prejudice directed against Jewish people"

Anti-Zionism refers the opposition of the movement to create a Jewish state in the Middle East, roughly corresponding to the historical land of Israel, and thus support for the modern state of Israel.

Some like to conflate the two which I think is ridiculous.

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