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BumRushDaShow

(154,521 posts)
Mon May 12, 2025, 06:11 AM May 12

House Republicans unveil Medicaid cuts

Source: ABC News/AP

May 12, 2025, 12:36 AM


WASHINGTON -- House Republicans unveiled the cost-saving centerpiece of President Donald Trump's “ big, beautiful bill ” late Sunday, at least $880 billion in cuts largely to Medicaid to help cover the cost of $4.5 trillion in tax breaks.

Tallying hundreds of pages, the legislation is touching off the biggest political fight over health care since Republicans tried to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, during Trump's first term in 2017 — which ended in failure.

While Republicans insist they are simply rooting out “waste, fraud and abuse” to generate savings with new work and eligibility requirements, Democrats warn that millions of Americans will lose coverage. A preliminary estimate from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said the proposals would reduce the number of people with health care by 8.6 million over the decade.

“Savings like these allow us to use this bill to renew the Trump tax cuts and keep Republicans’ promise to hardworking middle-class families,” said Rep. Brett Guthrie of Kentucky, the GOP chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee, which handles health care spending. But Democrats said the cuts are “shameful” and essentially amount to another attempt to repeal Obamacare.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/house-republicans-unveil-medicaid-cuts-democrats-warn-leave-121701684

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House Republicans unveil Medicaid cuts (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 12 OP
As if the wealthiest administration in history gives a single flying fuck about "hardworking middle-class families." Karasu May 12 #1
" hardworking middle-class families." use Medicaid too underpants May 12 #2
I know a similar person, I bet everyone does. gab13by13 May 12 #4
40% of Moses Mike's district (LA-4) is on Medicaid. underpants May 12 #9
Apparently it doesn't matter what you do to others SomedayKindaLove May 12 #18
Not BE a good Christian. ShazzieB May 12 #30
These massive cuts will close nursing homes and small hospitals in rual America Bengus81 May 12 #6
Make room for Grandma. I don't think most realize the effect of just these 100+ days underpants May 12 #10
key word , needed help AllaN01Bear May 12 #16
A couple of mouse clicks reveal who gets the payoffs from the "cuts." Miles Archer May 12 #27
It's really going to cost 4.7 - 7 trillion. gab13by13 May 12 #3
✅ Dems should hold their own townhalls with or without the incumbent Repub underpants May 12 #11
This is happening right now. murielm99 May 12 #12
Good. underpants May 12 #13
But...$100M and destroyed streets in DC for the Fuhrer's birthday parade? NO PROBLEM!! Bengus81 May 12 #5
And, the purge continues. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E May 12 #7
Is this another GOP ploy to force the Democrats to raise the debt ceiling 4 trillion so Trump can give his LiberalArkie May 12 #8
How many of those 8.7 million will die from preventable diseases? William Seger May 12 #14
That's just icing on the cake for them Bayard May 12 #20
Why bother repealing/replacing ACA... littlemissmartypants May 12 #15
here we goeth again, attacing the social programs. AllaN01Bear May 12 #17
The thing to remember is that in the mind of big-C Conservatives, Medicaid itself is "waste, fraud and abuse". JHB May 12 #19
I often post the personification of what you wrote that was described by Grover Norquist back in 2012 BumRushDaShow May 12 #21
Also the personification of my observation "there has always been a part of the Conservative Movement... JHB May 12 #22
Medicaid hildegaard28 May 12 #23
My brain read the title as Medieval Cuts flamingdem May 12 #24
Correction...they tried to repeal...never replace ACA JT45242 May 12 #25
I'll guarantee the Health Insurance cabal does NOT want the ACA killed Bengus81 May 12 #28
Brother worked for hmo companies until he retired 2 years ago, they wanted to kill ACA JT45242 May 12 #29
Devastating cuts for the poorest and most vulnerable Picaro May 12 #26

Karasu

(1,346 posts)
1. As if the wealthiest administration in history gives a single flying fuck about "hardworking middle-class families."
Mon May 12, 2025, 06:26 AM
May 12

How do modern conservatives continue to spew this tired shit with a straight face?

underpants

(191,071 posts)
2. " hardworking middle-class families." use Medicaid too
Mon May 12, 2025, 06:43 AM
May 12

We don’t hear about them much anymore but there are lots of working poor.

We know a couple with a special needs kid who gets Medicaid assistant. One is a lawyer and one is a sound technician. The work they’ve done for this kid is astounding…but they needed help.

gab13by13

(28,435 posts)
4. I know a similar person, I bet everyone does.
Mon May 12, 2025, 06:55 AM
May 12

They would make great guests at Democratic town halls that focus on killing tax cuts for billionaires.

Where is the concerted action to stop the Big Beautiful Bill? Make Congressional Magats own it. Hold town halls in red districts that have high percentages of people on Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security.

underpants

(191,071 posts)
9. 40% of Moses Mike's district (LA-4) is on Medicaid.
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:30 AM
May 12

From the SEIU
🚨Nearly 40% of Speaker Mike Johnson’s district relies on Medicaid. �Now he’s leading the charge to gut it—putting rural hospitals at risk & ripping care away from working families who earn too little to afford it any other way. Is this what backing working people looks like, sir?



NBC

In Johnson’s rural Louisiana district, nearly 25% of adults under age 65 rely on Medicaid, according to an NBC News analysis, while nearly 20% of households receive food stamps. Politically, it’s a deep-red district that Johnson won with 85% of the vote in November. Louisiana was one of the states that expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, and the program now covers 72 million people across the country.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rural-louisiana-speaker-mike-johnson-potential-medicaid-cuts-rcna196007

SomedayKindaLove

(1,139 posts)
18. Apparently it doesn't matter what you do to others
Mon May 12, 2025, 11:42 AM
May 12

As long as you go to church or dangle a cross from your neck you can still go to bed at night and be a good Christian

ShazzieB

(20,901 posts)
30. Not BE a good Christian.
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:30 PM
May 12

You can do anything you want to vulnerable people and still tell yourself you're a good Christian.

You can, tell yourself anything. That doesn't necessarily mean it's true,

Bengus81

(8,891 posts)
6. These massive cuts will close nursing homes and small hospitals in rual America
Mon May 12, 2025, 07:34 AM
May 12
It isn't IF..it's WHEN.

Other facts that Trump and his Republicans lackeys care nothing about:

Approximately 1.75 million veterans, or about 1 in 10, rely on Medicaid for their health care. A significant portion, around 40%, rely solely on Medicaid for all their health care needs. For the remaining 60%, Medicaid supplements other coverage like VA, private insurance, or Medicare.

underpants

(191,071 posts)
10. Make room for Grandma. I don't think most realize the effect of just these 100+ days
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:41 AM
May 12

You are absolutely right. See most post above. 40% of Speaker Johnson’s district is on Medicaid including 1/4 of the people under 65.

Rural hospitals have been closing for a while but this would be the dagger as you said. Move over food deserts- here comes medical deserts.

Grandma is going to need a bath too. Basically households are going to become 24/7 caregivers even if it’s spread out over shifts.

Miles Archer

(19,667 posts)
27. A couple of mouse clicks reveal who gets the payoffs from the "cuts."
Mon May 12, 2025, 03:57 PM
May 12

Hard to believe Trump is still selling cuts that overwhelmingly go to the top 1% as something for middle class families, but that's Trump. He'll never back down from it, even though the info is available to anyone who wants it.

gab13by13

(28,435 posts)
3. It's really going to cost 4.7 - 7 trillion.
Mon May 12, 2025, 06:51 AM
May 12

Waiting for Democrats to make the debate why billionaires don't need a 7 trillion dollar tax cut paid for by the poor and working class. Bernie and AOC are trying.

A single mom friend of mine who works every damn day but doesn't make enough money to afford Obamacare would make a nice guest at a Democratic town hall focused on the damage the 7 trillion dollar tax cut will do to people.

Stop wasting time on an insane impeachment strategy and devote efforts to doing town halls like the MSNBC town hall about fired federal workers. Make the town halls about specific topics and the MSM will cover it.

Time Matters.

DNC I offer my ideas, PM me. The strategy to let Krasnov burn it all down and then we will win the elections is a piss poor strategy. Letting him burn our democracy down is a doom and gloom strategy.

underpants

(191,071 posts)
11. ✅ Dems should hold their own townhalls with or without the incumbent Repub
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:44 AM
May 12

If they show up fine. If they don’t it would be a great way for prospective challengers to make their name known. The media will be there. They love them some public anger.

Bengus81

(8,891 posts)
5. But...$100M and destroyed streets in DC for the Fuhrer's birthday parade? NO PROBLEM!!
Mon May 12, 2025, 07:26 AM
May 12

FUCK YOU and your Republican toadies who are allowing all of this BS.

LiberalArkie

(18,412 posts)
8. Is this another GOP ploy to force the Democrats to raise the debt ceiling 4 trillion so Trump can give his
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:29 AM
May 12

tax breaks? "You raise the debt ceiling and we won't cut Medicaid" And then they do it any way?

William Seger

(11,682 posts)
14. How many of those 8.7 million will die from preventable diseases?
Mon May 12, 2025, 09:08 AM
May 12

We know from experience that uninsured people are about 40% more likely to die from preventable or treatable diseases. Will any of these GOP "Christians" think about that when they vote for it? Not for more than a couple of seconds, because they're all afraid of King Dunning-Kruger's cult.

Bayard

(25,467 posts)
20. That's just icing on the cake for them
Mon May 12, 2025, 12:30 PM
May 12

Dems need to be running ads, not just doing town halls. Tell the people what rethuglicans are really up to.

littlemissmartypants

(27,999 posts)
15. Why bother repealing/replacing ACA...
Mon May 12, 2025, 09:35 AM
May 12

When you can just slash everything down to the bone, subsequently close hospitals, bankrupt clinics and destroy healthcare everywhere?

What good will insurance be when there are no billing offices to process the invoices because the providers have all had to take jobs with Door Dash?

❤️ RESIST!! ✊️

AllaN01Bear

(25,652 posts)
17. here we goeth again, attacing the social programs.
Mon May 12, 2025, 10:07 AM
May 12

hey congresws. not all disabilities are visible and in the op0en, ie using scooter or waker or other equipments to survie. i am one who has hidden dissibilites . wer are ignored too often.

JHB

(37,737 posts)
19. The thing to remember is that in the mind of big-C Conservatives, Medicaid itself is "waste, fraud and abuse".
Mon May 12, 2025, 12:25 PM
May 12

So are Medicare and Social Security. That's all "big government" stuff they want to do away with.

To their mind, government should not be involved with those things. They want "small government", a phrase they've sold to he "small-c" conservatives while eliding what it actually entails.

BumRushDaShow

(154,521 posts)
21. I often post the personification of what you wrote that was described by Grover Norquist back in 2012
Mon May 12, 2025, 12:43 PM
May 12

and foretold what happened in 2017 and again in 2024 -

JHB

(37,737 posts)
22. Also the personification of my observation "there has always been a part of the Conservative Movement...
Mon May 12, 2025, 12:51 PM
May 12

...that had a sneaking admiration for the Bolsheviks. Not for the ideology, of course, but for the ability of a small faction to play other factions against each other, manipulate useful idiots for cover and misdirection, and when the time comes to be absolutely ruthless in taking total control."

I don't care how much he's denied it after the story started circulating, I fully believe he had a bust of Lenin for precisely the above reason.

hildegaard28

(533 posts)
23. Medicaid
Mon May 12, 2025, 01:08 PM
May 12

Creates more jobs than any billionaire ever could. Cutting Medicaid will cut jobs from communities, not to mention kill people. But that might be the bright side for the party of sociopaths we call Republicans. More dead poor people.

JT45242

(3,391 posts)
25. Correction...they tried to repeal...never replace ACA
Mon May 12, 2025, 03:04 PM
May 12

If they repeal it, there will be nothing for the millions who used it for subsidized plans.

The rest of us who have ACA compliant work insurance will lose free preventative care and a ton of other benefits. But the insurance companies will make a lot more money.

Bengus81

(8,891 posts)
28. I'll guarantee the Health Insurance cabal does NOT want the ACA killed
Mon May 12, 2025, 04:21 PM
May 12

They have more customers than ever and they are being subsidized. They kill off the ACA their insurance would be what $1500-$2000 per month for a family of four??

Millions would be back to having zero health insurance.

JT45242

(3,391 posts)
29. Brother worked for hmo companies until he retired 2 years ago, they wanted to kill ACA
Mon May 12, 2025, 05:29 PM
May 12

Maybe some companies want it.but mist want it gone and want to be UNREGULATED not deregulated.

He tried to convince me for years that ACA and single payer were bad for everyone. He drank the company Kool aid

Picaro

(2,035 posts)
26. Devastating cuts for the poorest and most vulnerable
Mon May 12, 2025, 03:27 PM
May 12

While continuing tax cuts that were utterly unnecessary at the time and massively added to the deficit.

Republicans are so concerned about the deficit until they have the Congress and the Presidency.

This has been going on for a long time now.

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