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BumRushDaShow

(154,511 posts)
Fri May 23, 2025, 07:47 AM May 23

DNC to vote on whether to redo election of David Hogg as vice chair

Source: Axios

8 hours ago


The Democratic National Committee will vote in June on whether to hold a redo of the election of David Hogg and Pennsylvania state Rep. Malcolm Kenyatta as vice chairs, per a Thursday evening DNC meeting.

Why it matters: Kalyn Free, a losing candidate in February's vice chair race, says the two were elected under a flawed tabulation process, but Hogg alleges the move is linked to his efforts to reform the party that include plans to spend $20 million to primary older Democratic Congress members.

Driving the news: The DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee at a virtual meeting determined that a vote should be held electronically from June 9-11.

  • Hogg said at the meeting the move "sends a horrible message to the public about our inability to run elections."
  • It "truly just sends a horrible message that we really do not want out there" if Democrats were to redo this election, he said. "That's why I believe that it should not go forward, and if it does, it does. It should not be done electronically or over mail."
  • Kenyatta said at the meeting that he "fundamentally" believes the election was fair.


  • Read more: https://www.axios.com/2025/05/23/democrats-dnc-david-hogg-vice-chair-election-vote
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    DNC to vote on whether to redo election of David Hogg as vice chair (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 23 OP
    Hogg is right. This is a form of election theft Renew Deal May 23 #1
    If the election did not follow the rules, it should be redone. Full stop. I'd call this "transparency" rather than LauraInLA May 23 #16
    I suspect these dialogues will continue until the upstarts are about 10 years older bucolic_frolic May 23 #2
    I like neither side of this. Hogg using his position to primary an incumbent is bad. DNC ousting them is bad. dutch777 May 23 #3
    Damned if you do, damned if you don't. The Grand Illuminist May 23 #4
    I think, more damned if they do. 3Hotdogs May 23 #5
    hidebound jaymac May 23 #9
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the party doesn't generally give candidates money in the primary. Candidates LauraInLA May 23 #17
    Sounds like the DNC doesn't want David Hogg and that free has sour grapes over the election Fullduplexxx May 23 #6
    We are sadly having our Democratic elected officials, literally dropping like flies BumRushDaShow May 23 #7
    I do not believe that they want anyone younger than the Clintons or anyone not in their tax bracket LiberalArkie May 23 #8
    I think you are right. Autumn May 23 #10
    Do you know what Hogg's bracket is? fujiyamasan May 23 #18
    Oh, in the millions? for the last 20 years or so? Heavily invested in financial and military stocks? LiberalArkie May 23 #19
    lol, we're judging folks on their investments now? fujiyamasan May 23 #21
    Well, from my life (77 years) I have found that very wealthy people think about things differently than those LiberalArkie May 23 #22
    The Country is Falling Apart... Biglinda 52 May 23 #11
    Think sports. Losers draft new talent. usonian May 23 #12
    Lessons in politics JoseBalow May 23 #13
    Such pettiness Abundance77 May 23 #14
    Martin was a guest on set of MSNBC's Deminpenn May 23 #15
    Not impressed with either side fujiyamasan May 23 #20

    Renew Deal

    (84,081 posts)
    1. Hogg is right. This is a form of election theft
    Fri May 23, 2025, 07:52 AM
    May 23

    And will make Democrats look bad. It also shows that the status quo in the Democratic Party doesn’t want change.

    Of course, people that want Hogg out should be careful what they wish for. He will be more “dangerous” outside the party.

    LauraInLA

    (2,159 posts)
    16. If the election did not follow the rules, it should be redone. Full stop. I'd call this "transparency" rather than
    Fri May 23, 2025, 02:19 PM
    May 23

    “election theft”.

    bucolic_frolic

    (50,856 posts)
    2. I suspect these dialogues will continue until the upstarts are about 10 years older
    Fri May 23, 2025, 07:56 AM
    May 23

    We do need younger blood. Holding office until death creates impromptu and inconvenient vacancies. Should have been done in the Obama era but he was hog-tied by GOP barriers. Generating internal strife and friction erodes our platform. And wastes money.

    dutch777

    (4,555 posts)
    3. I like neither side of this. Hogg using his position to primary an incumbent is bad. DNC ousting them is bad.
    Fri May 23, 2025, 08:25 AM
    May 23

    All of it smells of fratricide and adds to DNC's poor image on top of the Biden press. Meanwhile, the party platform will stay as is, outdated and unprioritized to the current needs of Dem candidates for 2026 until the presidential nominating convention in 2028. Luckily many Dem candidates are basically rewriting or cherry picking the platform as they need to speak and appeal to the many voters (25% of registered Dem) who stayed home and sat on their hands in 2024.

    jaymac

    (19 posts)
    9. hidebound
    Fri May 23, 2025, 09:20 AM
    May 23

    the DNC is following an old and useless playbook. perhaps the DNC's rules say they can only back the person in office to the detriment of the enthusiasm of voters. that's a bad plan. David Hogg should be listened to, I know I'd love to have another dem run against the dem we have representing us in the second district and not be hampered by the stinginess of the DNC. that aside, I'd like to see some younger faces running......being rep or a senator should not be a life long profession. I think the easiest and fairer approach would be to amend structure rules and appoint a third vice chair.........I am happy to see Kenyatta and Hogg picking up the mantle. i've been a union member and dem voter since Goldwater ran in 63/64. it's time for a shift in the way the DNC operates. Go on David....keep asking the important questions and helping to elect the leaders we need........thank you

    LauraInLA

    (2,159 posts)
    17. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the party doesn't generally give candidates money in the primary. Candidates
    Fri May 23, 2025, 02:21 PM
    May 23

    are free to fundraise. If an incumbent stinks, it should be possible for other candidates to fundraise.

    Fullduplexxx

    (8,496 posts)
    6. Sounds like the DNC doesn't want David Hogg and that free has sour grapes over the election
    Fri May 23, 2025, 08:39 AM
    May 23

    And is contesting it so the DNC is going to facilitate an overturning

    BumRushDaShow

    (154,511 posts)
    7. We are sadly having our Democratic elected officials, literally dropping like flies
    Fri May 23, 2025, 08:50 AM
    May 23

    I saw an article the past week - The last 8 members of Congress to die in office have all been Democrats where there were 3 just in the past 3 months.

    From the article -

    (snip)

    Here's the full list of Democratic lawmakers who have died in office since November 2022:

    Rep. Gerry Connolly of Virginia
    Rep. Raúl Grijalva of Arizona
    Rep. Sylvester Turner of Texas
    Rep. Bill Pascrell of New Jersey
    Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas
    Rep. Donald Payne of New Jersey
    Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California
    Rep. Donald McEachin of Virginia


    LiberalArkie

    (18,412 posts)
    8. I do not believe that they want anyone younger than the Clintons or anyone not in their tax bracket
    Fri May 23, 2025, 09:06 AM
    May 23

    LiberalArkie

    (18,412 posts)
    19. Oh, in the millions? for the last 20 years or so? Heavily invested in financial and military stocks?
    Fri May 23, 2025, 04:20 PM
    May 23

    fujiyamasan

    (258 posts)
    21. lol, we're judging folks on their investments now?
    Fri May 23, 2025, 04:26 PM
    May 23

    Do you have any retirement accounts? Any pension funds? I hope you know what kind of stocks the S&P hold.

    LiberalArkie

    (18,412 posts)
    22. Well, from my life (77 years) I have found that very wealthy people think about things differently than those
    Fri May 23, 2025, 05:43 PM
    May 23

    close to the bottom. Generally have different life experiences. Different goals.

    So yea.. They think different than probably 75% of America does.

    Abundance77

    (20 posts)
    14. Such pettiness
    Fri May 23, 2025, 01:54 PM
    May 23

    We are going to lose so much if Big Beautiful bill is passed and DNC is focused on Hogg and Kenyatta. This is crazy.

    Deminpenn

    (16,827 posts)
    15. Martin was a guest on set of MSNBC's
    Fri May 23, 2025, 02:10 PM
    May 23

    The Weeknight show a couple days ago.

    He was shown a social media post about the need for you get leadership and candidates. He said he supported that idea, but didn't sound too convincing to me.

    He was also asked about the vice chair election do over. He made it sound like there wouldn't be a resolution very quickly. Sort of we'll get around to it when we get around to it. But apparently that was a dodge.

    Martin said his focus is on getting Dems elected.

    I'd never seen Martin before. He struck me as kind of a conventional thinker, no new ideas or open to new ideas.

    fujiyamasan

    (258 posts)
    20. Not impressed with either side
    Fri May 23, 2025, 04:21 PM
    May 23

    The DNC is obviously showing signs of ossification, and too many that are well past their prime are grasping to power. Learn from Pelosi and handover power to another generation. We can argue whether Jeffries is the ideal candidate, but at least she knew it was time.

    The problem with Hogg is he clearly has a conflict of interest here. If he wants to give up his PAC (which strikes me as a slush fund, given its finances), then by all means try to shake up the institution. The DNC should be a neutral part though. It should help incumbents against republicans but stay out of primary fights, and let them proceed organically as they should.

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