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highplainsdem

(56,674 posts)
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 02:52 PM Jun 5

Musk floats new party in signal he could torch GOP

Source: Axios

Elon Musk posted a poll to X on Thursday asking followers whether they support the idea of a new political party to take on the Republicans and Democrats.

Why it matters: The richest man in the world is publicly feuding with the most powerful man in America, whom he spent record-setting sums to elect. We're about to find out what he's actually prepared to do about it.

-snip-

The intrigue: Musk had already gone after House Republicans for near-unanimously approving the bill, but it was unclear if he was going to leverage his fortune or his huge platform against them.

Then, Musk posted a tweet that will likely send a chill down the spine of Republican operatives, who were thrilled about the big tent coalition they assembled in 2024 with Musk's help.

-snip-

Read more: https://www.axios.com/2025/06/05/elon-musk-new-party-poll-trump



Btw, I voted NO in Elon's poll, but the vote is currently more than 83% YES.







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Musk floats new party in signal he could torch GOP (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 5 OP
It's all about selling more Teslas. speak easy Jun 5 #1
Nope. This is much more serious. This isn't a fake feud, a charade for PR. highplainsdem Jun 5 #4
That ship has sailed Miguelito Loveless Jun 6 #42
Yeh and dweller Jun 5 #2
Loomer, musk and shithole are insane..... Lovie777 Jun 5 #3
Of course they're not the middle, but they have to claim they are. "We the lunatic fringe" doesn't sound highplainsdem Jun 5 #6
Trump may issue an EO to investigate Musk's drug use Zorro Jun 5 #5
I'm skeptical cabotnn22 Jun 5 #7
This makes logical sense. mdbl Jun 5 #9
yup. quakerboy Jun 5 #21
My new blessing for everyone: Basso8vb Jun 5 #8
or a gas station in Milan... DBoon Jun 5 #10
An appropriate quote from the TV show "Babylon 5" Shipwack Jun 5 #24
"Or on your way to heaven, see them heading the other way". Conjuay Jun 6 #40
What is Fox News saying about this. The unwashed masses will do what Fox tells them to do. patricia92243 Jun 5 #11
We already know. And soon Musk will know what happens to disobedient oligarchs. SunSeeker Jun 5 #14
Musk thinks he represents the "middle 80%" ??? SunSeeker Jun 5 #12
I thought to myself that EarlG Jun 5 #13
No idea what will happen. But I just talked to a Republican relative who's desperately hoping this is highplainsdem Jun 5 #15
MAGA will stay with Trump. Elon will learn the hard way. SunSeeker Jun 5 #18
My psychiatrist, who I see for severe chronic depression and anxiety BlueKota Jun 5 #32
Musk makes his core billions off the government teet. He's dead if they cut him off. nt SunSeeker Jun 5 #16
If you read and investigate musk, the exact same thing can be said slightlv Jun 5 #28
I meant Musk. SunSeeker Jun 5 #30
Trump has already threatened to pull all of Musk's Mawspam2 Jun 5 #20
Ross Perot had the resources... Shipwack Jun 5 #25
I would answer that musk isn't allowed to run for the presidency, slightlv Jun 5 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Jun 5 #35
Textbook example of what happens BlueKota Jun 5 #17
Yes. This is why you shouldn't hand the government over to narcissistic playground bullies. tanyev Jun 5 #22
... ailsagirl Jun 5 #36
Hell has frozen over.... Go for it Eloon. groundloop Jun 5 #19
The goal isn't to take on the GOP it's to siphon off independents from voting for Democrats. cstanleytech Jun 5 #23
I think that would backfire Skittles Jun 5 #31
Well, how many thought Trump wouldn't win either? I mean there are a lot of morons out there that voted for him again. cstanleytech Jun 5 #34
Musk might take some MAGAts Skittles Jun 6 #38
I agree. This will be non-stop trashing of Democrats. travelingthrulife Jun 6 #41
Please proceed... SheltieLover Jun 5 #26
I want musk to do what he demanded that federal workers do... slightlv Jun 5 #27
"...but, I will be around for 40+ years..." LudwigPastorius Jun 5 #33
The two party system is way too entrenched. Xolodno Jun 5 #37
"the middle" is around 36%, not 80% RussBLib Jun 6 #39

Miguelito Loveless

(4,994 posts)
42. That ship has sailed
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 04:09 PM
Jun 6

Musk has destroyed the brand. He made a conscious decision to alienate the vast majority of his customer base (political liberals concerned about the environment) to curry favor with people who hate his product and the environment. Now he has alienated the few of those who would buy his product. His sales are crashing and I don't see them recovering while he has anything to do with the business, including owning stock. If Ford is smart, they will buy the brand for pennies on the dollar when it crashes.

dweller

(26,673 posts)
2. Yeh and
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 02:59 PM
Jun 5

He will guarantee the new party will win with 99% of the vote .
He knows those electoral machines , dontcha know
😐

✌🏻

highplainsdem

(56,674 posts)
6. Of course they're not the middle, but they have to claim they are. "We the lunatic fringe" doesn't sound
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 03:05 PM
Jun 5

nearly as good as "We the people."

Shipwack

(2,728 posts)
24. An appropriate quote from the TV show "Babylon 5"
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 06:24 PM
Jun 5

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next 10 generations that some favors come with too high a price. I want to look up into your lifeless eyes and wave like this:
[waves at Morden]
Can you and your associates arrange that for me Mr. Morden?"
- Vir Cotto (played by the late Stephen Furst)

?si=0H-ZJPR0YBHqoBXs

patricia92243

(12,958 posts)
11. What is Fox News saying about this. The unwashed masses will do what Fox tells them to do.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 03:27 PM
Jun 5

Whichever one that Fox thinks is the financially best for them is who they will back.

EarlG

(23,009 posts)
13. I thought to myself that
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 03:37 PM
Jun 5

Musk has the resources to pull this off in the way that no third-party challenger has previously.

However, if Trump kills SpaceX and Tesla by pulling their various incentives and government contracts, Musk may suddenly not have many resources after all...

highplainsdem

(56,674 posts)
15. No idea what will happen. But I just talked to a Republican relative who's desperately hoping this is
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 03:45 PM
Jun 5

all theater.

I'm seeing Musk get a lot of pushback from Trump loyalists on X, especially over the Epstein tweet.

BlueKota

(4,308 posts)
32. My psychiatrist, who I see for severe chronic depression and anxiety
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 08:12 PM
Jun 5

sometimes discuss politics with me, because it's a trigger for both of my issues.

She speculated that as if by some miracle tsf was to be impeached, have his cabinet remove him by the 25 ammendment, or he were to pass due to natural causes, she doesn't think Vance will have the support from the public that tsf does. She said cultists don't usually transfer allegiance from one leader they were devoted to, to his successor. Plus she says she doesn't think Vance does has the type of personality that draws a cult following.

So my guess is you're right that people will side with Trump, over Musk for the same type of reasons. Where my hope lies is Musk has proof of something really damaging on tsf, that isn't public knowledge already, and that can't be swept under the rug as easily. Also that he pulls campaign contributions from all the Rethugs in the house and senate.

SunSeeker

(56,012 posts)
16. Musk makes his core billions off the government teet. He's dead if they cut him off. nt
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 03:45 PM
Jun 5

Last edited Thu Jun 5, 2025, 06:51 PM - Edit history (1)

slightlv

(5,787 posts)
28. If you read and investigate musk, the exact same thing can be said
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 06:50 PM
Jun 5

for musk, too. Neither could make it on their own without wealthy welfare from government largesse.

Mawspam2

(964 posts)
20. Trump has already threatened to pull all of Musk's
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 03:55 PM
Jun 5

...contracts and Musk is threatening to strand all the ISS astronauts to die.

Shipwack

(2,728 posts)
25. Ross Perot had the resources...
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 06:34 PM
Jun 5

Granted, not the obscene levels that Musk has, but a sufficient amount. I also think he was a better manager than Musk. He still failed to create a third party.

The same flaw is common between the two: neither wants/wanted to do the hard, boring, unglamorous stuff.

If Elon tries to create a party, it will be for the sole purpose of getting himself elected POTUS. I doubt he’ll invest in getting Senators etc elected. He won’t have anyone running for state legislatures (let alone municipal elections). With no foundation, the whole organization will collapse as soon as he grows bored or discouraged from failure.

And fail he will. He’ll micromanage every part of the campaign. He won’t seek advice because he knows he’s a genius…

slightlv

(5,787 posts)
29. I would answer that musk isn't allowed to run for the presidency,
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 06:52 PM
Jun 5

let alone BE president. But we all know what the Constitution means to people of power and money these days. It only matters to those of us patriots who haven't drunk the kool-aid.

Note: I'm so angry at the things I'm reading today in politics, and the idiot things happening around my house, I hit post *before* reading it! (LOL) Oh, for some of Elon's drugs!

Response to EarlG (Reply #13)

BlueKota

(4,308 posts)
17. Textbook example of what happens
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 03:45 PM
Jun 5

when 2 people with narcissistic personality disorder try to work together. It was bound to explode sooner or later. I am actually surprised it wasn't sooner.

Hopefully it will be the ultimate downfall for both of them, and at least start us on a path away from the destruction they've been wreaking.

tanyev

(46,755 posts)
22. Yes. This is why you shouldn't hand the government over to narcissistic playground bullies.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 05:23 PM
Jun 5

Skittles

(164,921 posts)
31. I think that would backfire
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 07:22 PM
Jun 5

I think the people looking up to Elon are most likely selfish fucking assholes like him.

cstanleytech

(27,670 posts)
34. Well, how many thought Trump wouldn't win either? I mean there are a lot of morons out there that voted for him again.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 10:35 PM
Jun 5

That shows that they can be swayed and a third party could do that especially since Musk controls Twitter which he will surely use to push it.

Skittles

(164,921 posts)
38. Musk might take some MAGAts
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 12:42 AM
Jun 6

but certainly not most

and progressives DESPISE his fascist ass

slightlv

(5,787 posts)
27. I want musk to do what he demanded that federal workers do...
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 06:48 PM
Jun 5

I want him to detail an outline of 5 actions he took to get trump installed in the white house.

The I want that republican attorney... the one who talks so slow as to be really hard to listen to... but whose name escapes me right now. I have so much respect for him... as a patriot and an individual... I want him to go after Musk for election fraud and interference.

LudwigPastorius

(12,677 posts)
33. "...but, I will be around for 40+ years..."
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 09:54 PM
Jun 5

Sure, Leon...only if some of those drugs you are taking are preservatives.


Xolodno

(7,048 posts)
37. The two party system is way too entrenched.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 11:22 PM
Jun 5

It's designed that way. With that said, there is room for spoilers who can knock out the GOP if they are disillusioned. George H W Bush found that out the hard way. They either voted for Perot or just didn't show up.

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