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highplainsdem

(56,674 posts)
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 03:42 PM Jun 6

Doctors Were Preparing to Remove Their Organs. Then They Woke Up.

Source: NYT

Four years ago, an unconscious Kentucky man began to awaken as he was about to be removed from life support so his organs could be donated. Even though the man cried, pulled his legs to his chest and shook his head, officials still tried to move forward.

Now, a federal investigation has found that officials at the nonprofit in charge of coordinating organ donations in Kentucky ignored signs of growing alertness not only in that patient but also in dozens of other potential donors.

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Typically, the patient is taken to an operating room where hospital workers withdraw life support and wait. The organs are considered viable for donation only if the patient dies within an hour or two. If that happens, the procurement organization’s team waits five more minutes and then begins removing organs. Strict rules are supposed to ensure that no retrieval begins before death or causes it.

-snip-

But the investigation found that the organization’s employees repeatedly pressured families to authorize donation, improperly took over cases from doctors and tried to push hospital staff to remove life support and allow for surgery even if there were indications of growing awareness in patients.

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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/06/us/kentucky-organ-donations.html

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Doctors Were Preparing to Remove Their Organs. Then They Woke Up. (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 6 OP
This is supposed to be an Onion headline. JMCKUSICK Jun 6 #1
A life stint in prison. No pardons! SheltieLover Jun 6 #2
Beyond ridiculous! SheltieLover Jun 6 #3
Kentucky..........LOL DENVERPOPS Jun 6 #4
This. The next time someone asks me why I refuse to be an organ donor, it's Baitball Blogger Jun 6 #5
We've been too trusting for too long. defacto7 Jun 6 #8
same. peacebuzzard Jun 7 #17
and tbh it's why this thread should be locked cadoman Jun 7 #20
Unravel the story...expose them. sheshe2 Jun 6 #6
Illegal organ harvesting has been going on in third world countries for many years defacto7 Jun 6 #9
Real life ghouls Mysterian Jun 6 #7
I think I read the book, "Coma" in the late 70's PurgedVoter Jun 6 #10
What a nightmare PatSeg Jun 6 #11
Was the plot of a Law & Order episode "Harvest" from Season 8 Wiz Imp Jun 6 #12
Also a plot on "Chicago Hope" question everything Jun 7 #15
Reminds me of the movie COMA. /nt sdfernando Jun 6 #13
I remember the liver "donation" markodochartaigh Jun 6 #14
I took myself off the organ donor list years ago perdita9 Jun 7 #16
I think I need to get online and remove the organ donor emblem from my driver's license. Oopsie Daisy Jun 7 #18
New scientist magazine Blue Full Moon Jun 7 #19
Yike! That's the stuff of nightmares. Vinca Jun 7 #21
Yet another reason we need one Single Payer Insurance for everyone here IbogaProject Jun 7 #22
Grim joke about similar situation... GJGCA Jun 7 #23
I'm skeptical. The New York Times is not a credible source anymore. TomSlick Jun 7 #24

JMCKUSICK

(2,692 posts)
1. This is supposed to be an Onion headline.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 03:44 PM
Jun 6

That it isn't is so unbelievably tragic and grotesque that these people need a stint in prison.

DENVERPOPS

(12,574 posts)
4. Kentucky..........LOL
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 03:53 PM
Jun 6

They will merely brush the story aside as FAKE NEWS.........Like everything else in their world except Fox News......

cadoman

(1,335 posts)
20. and tbh it's why this thread should be locked
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 11:10 AM
Jun 7

We saw the damage that misinformation did w/respect to vaccination and masking. Now they are coming for organ donation...

sheshe2

(92,379 posts)
6. Unravel the story...expose them.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 04:46 PM
Jun 6

Find the people that are funding the harvesting. It is a very lucrative business, especially if these organs are going to the highest bidder.

No doubt in my mind that there is a story here. It wasn't just one little, "oops', mistake.

defacto7

(14,083 posts)
9. Illegal organ harvesting has been going on in third world countries for many years
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 05:38 PM
Jun 6

utilizing street people, mostly children, who are taken live and well. Now, the ugliness in humanity doesn't just rise from desperation but from cool greed and cold apathy.

PurgedVoter

(2,519 posts)
10. I think I read the book, "Coma" in the late 70's
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:10 PM
Jun 6

This is not terribly far off from what the author predicted.

Wiz Imp

(5,396 posts)
12. Was the plot of a Law & Order episode "Harvest" from Season 8
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jun 6

the victim of a drive-by shooting who was in a coma and nearly brain dead was prepped to have her organs harvested before she was actually dead. The Doctor did it in order to deliver her organs to a hospital where he was hoping to get a job. McCoy's cross examination of the doctor is great where he accuses the doctor of pumping the victim full of morphine while harvesting her organs so she wouldn't wake up screaming in the middle of it.

A variation of this issue was explored in the movie "Extreme Measures" from 1996.

Gene Hackman plays a doctor who leads an organization that performs spinal experiments on mostly healthy homeless people in an attempt to find a cure for paralysis. Turns out the experiments on the homeless were done without their consent and all ended up dying even though they were healthy to begin with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_Measures

Stuff like this is pure evil.

question everything

(50,460 posts)
15. Also a plot on "Chicago Hope"
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 12:07 AM
Jun 7

The Christine Lahti character was ready to remove an organ, was pounding on the operating table and the young anesthesiologist then commented: Dr. Austin every time when you pound and says he is dead his blood pressure rises..

And that was it. He was rushed to be revived. For some reason I remember this story.

perdita9

(1,267 posts)
16. I took myself off the organ donor list years ago
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 05:55 AM
Jun 7

I decided I would never get a transplant for myself. If you look into this practice there's much about it that is ethically troubling.

Blue Full Moon

(2,261 posts)
19. New scientist magazine
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 09:09 AM
Jun 7

Had an article about transplants and it's more common and there's lots of money to be made. Young, poor and hard to prove malpractice.

IbogaProject

(4,496 posts)
22. Yet another reason we need one Single Payer Insurance for everyone here
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jun 7

The money involved causes this.

GJGCA

(35 posts)
23. Grim joke about similar situation...
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 03:03 PM
Jun 7

...
Finally the New Yorker steps forward. "Gimme a fork."

The cannibals are a bit mystified, but nonetheless give him a fork. He proceeds to stab himself all over with the fork. Arms, legs, face, torso. Anywhere he can stab himself with it, he does so.

The chief is aghast. "Good Lord! What are you doing?!?!?!"

The New Yorker bellows,

"SO MUCH FOR YER CANOE, YA FUCKING JERKS!"

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/2e0z4f/a_frenchman_a_brit_and_a_new_yorker_go_on_a_safari/

TomSlick

(12,468 posts)
24. I'm skeptical. The New York Times is not a credible source anymore.
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 08:46 PM
Jun 7

This kind of story has been circulated for years and are a drag on people signing up to be organ donors.

See the Mayo Clinic's rebuttal to such stories. https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/consumer-health/in-depth/organ-donation/art-20047529

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