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True Dough

(23,297 posts)
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 07:53 PM Jun 7

Trump's border czar says he's sending National Guard to fight LA anti-ICE protests as clashes continue into second day

Source: Independent

President Donald Trump’s border czar, Tom Homan, said he plans to send the National Guard to Los Angeles to combat protests against ICE that began this weekend following immigration raids in the city.

“We are making Los Angeles safer. Mayor Bass should be thanking us. She says they are going to mobilize—guess what? We are already mobilizing. We are going to bring the National Guard in tonight,” Homan told Fox News.

His comments come after Senior White House adviser Stephen Miller railed against the protests, calling them an “insurrection” against the United States.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/la-protests-ice-raids-stephen-miller-insurrection-b2765792.html



This is getting messy. Hopefully no lives lost.
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Trump's border czar says he's sending National Guard to fight LA anti-ICE protests as clashes continue into second day (Original Post) True Dough Jun 7 OP
Will the National Guard be told to start shooting protestors? Irish_Dem Jun 7 #1
As far as they need to go to intimidate the public into not 'ruining' Trump's birthday ego boost Attilatheblond Jun 7 #8
They will go as far as they need to shut down protests. Irish_Dem Jun 7 #9
"Tin soldiers and Nixon coming..." 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 7 #2
This.............. turbinetree Jun 7 #19
and so it begins. multigraincracker Jun 7 #3
Will any National Guard remember the lessons of Kent State--if, that is any were ever learned? hlthe2b Jun 7 #4
The only lesson they could learn from there... Shipwack Jun 7 #20
Or they learned the wrong lessons. Wear masks but not uniforms or identifying badges IronLionZion Sunday #31
I think it would be interesting if all the protesters showed up wearing national guard uniforms... mitch96 Sunday #42
It's Viagra for chickenhawk magas and their criminal hero. Attilatheblond Jun 7 #5
Here we go nt Javaman Jun 7 #6
Los Angeles is not on the border. bucolic_frolic Jun 7 #7
I looked up if the Governors control the National Guard. They can be called by up by the Feds tetedur Jun 7 #14
Should Martial Law be declared, the US Constitution becomes NULL and VOID ProudMNDemocrat Sunday #41
Believe it or not,Border patrol has authority in L. A.. Shipwack Jun 7 #21
Per US Government, anything within 100 miles of international border OR shore line is US Border Enforcement Zone Attilatheblond Jun 7 #22
National Guard from which state? CanonRay Jun 7 #10
I'm pretty sure POTUS can "federalize" the NG under certain walkingman Jun 7 #12
Exactly the question I had, Ray. Efilroft Sul Jun 7 #16
News reporting Trump activated the California national guard IronLionZion Sunday #32
He can't without the Governor or the President. Fuck Homan n/t Cheezoholic Jun 7 #11
It's already done. orangecrush Jun 7 #28
They have to secure the US from Americans. Irish_Dem Jun 7 #13
An unfortunate number of Americans chose nazi dictatorship IronLionZion Sunday #33
Yes indeed. A disgusting amount of Americans choose evil. Irish_Dem Sunday #36
Watch this space mountain grammy Jun 7 #15
As best I can remember, the last time POTUS federalized the National Guard to enforce the law TomSlick Jun 7 #17
Kind Of A Nit Pic, But DallasNE Jun 7 #29
Trump used them for protests in his first term IronLionZion Sunday #34
Donny resorts to name-calling and talks tough... True Dough Jun 7 #18
Trump sending National Guard to LA in response to anti-ICE protests Attilatheblond Jun 7 #23
Remember Kent State DallasNE Jun 7 #24
Umm, sorry for my ignorance. How does this not-human have the authoriy niyad Jun 7 #25
Exactly who is going to stop him. He knows Klarkashton Jun 7 #26
... orangecrush Jun 7 #27
So we have demented Trump in charge D. Spaulding Jun 7 #30
The right of the people to peacefully assemble perdita9 Sunday #35
Link to BBC live thread nitpicked Sunday #37
Thanks for adding that link True Dough Sunday #39
If Mr. Homan really wanted to make LA safer Klondike Kat Sunday #38
But, just like his Dear Leader... GiqueCee Sunday #40
Pot calling the kettle black YET AGAIN. The REAL insurrection is coming from WITHIN THE WHITE HOUSE. nt eppur_se_muova Sunday #43

Attilatheblond

(6,269 posts)
8. As far as they need to go to intimidate the public into not 'ruining' Trump's birthday ego boost
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 08:02 PM
Jun 7

Sadly, even without any protests anywhere, the Chickenhawk in Chief will find his parade did not give him the high he seeks. No joy no matter what because he is terminally mentally deficient and soulless. No matter what he makes happen, his father still never loved him and thinks he's a LOSER.

The problem is him, not us, but he will destroy us in his effort to feel better.

Irish_Dem

(70,905 posts)
9. They will go as far as they need to shut down protests.
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 08:05 PM
Jun 7

And yes. Trump's parade must be protected at all costs.

Yes there is nothing that will fill the hole in Trump's soul.

He is a deeply damaged and mentally ill person.

hlthe2b

(110,189 posts)
4. Will any National Guard remember the lessons of Kent State--if, that is any were ever learned?
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 07:56 PM
Jun 7


Shipwack

(2,728 posts)
20. The only lesson they could learn from there...
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 09:29 PM
Jun 7

… is a bad one: you can kill peaceful protesters and get off scot free.

IronLionZion

(49,155 posts)
31. Or they learned the wrong lessons. Wear masks but not uniforms or identifying badges
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 12:19 AM
Sunday

no consequences

mitch96

(15,274 posts)
42. I think it would be interesting if all the protesters showed up wearing national guard uniforms...
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:59 AM
Sunday

Activate 2000 NG troops and 6000 lookalikes show up...Hummmm Eschew Obfuscation...
Confusion ensues...
m

tetedur

(1,286 posts)
14. I looked up if the Governors control the National Guard. They can be called by up by the Feds
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 08:11 PM
Jun 7

for "border security," hurricanes etc. I agree, L.A. is not on the border.
Has a federal emergency been declared? We know Miller thinks the protests are an "insurrection."
The goons have been pushing for this. Are they going to escalate so that when Trump comes back to work on Monday he'll be ready to declare martial law?

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,691 posts)
41. Should Martial Law be declared, the US Constitution becomes NULL and VOID
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 09:22 AM
Sunday

That would mean there would be NO rights granted under the Bill of Rights.

Which translates that NO GUN OWNERSHIP allowed! I bet the lovers of the 2nd Amendment did not think that one out. More guns among the civilian population than Law Enforcement and the Military combined.

Shipwack

(2,728 posts)
21. Believe it or not,Border patrol has authority in L. A..
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 09:36 PM
Jun 7

The Border Patrol has jurisdiction up to 100 miles from any US border, including maritime borders.

This means that two out of three people fall under its jurisdiction.

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone

Attilatheblond

(6,269 posts)
22. Per US Government, anything within 100 miles of international border OR shore line is US Border Enforcement Zone
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 09:53 PM
Jun 7

That covers about 2/3 of the US population.

https://ibb.co/Tx7K3MSQ Sorry, image won't post for me today. Click the link and see just how bad things have been for years

Edited to add so you all understand we have not had our full rights for some time now:

The U.S. Border Enforcement Zone extends 100 miles into the interior from any land or maritime border, where Customs and Border Protection (CBP) has the authority to conduct searches and detain individuals without a warrant or reasonable suspicion. This zone encompasses a significant portion of the U.S. population, including major cities, and is often subject to increased law enforcement scrutiny.


We are subject to stops/inspections within these areas. Been going on for decades where I live. And the fascists are planning to make it a 200 mile wide zone all around the nation.

walkingman

(9,368 posts)
12. I'm pretty sure POTUS can "federalize" the NG under certain
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 08:10 PM
Jun 7

circumstances - but definitely not the "border czar".

IronLionZion

(49,155 posts)
32. News reporting Trump activated the California national guard
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 12:26 AM
Sunday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/06/07/la-ice-arrests-protests-national-gaurd/

President Donald Trump on Saturday ordered the California National Guard to Los Angeles to intervene in protests of immigration sweeps, a move condemned by California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D). The White House move to activate the National Guard marks a major escalation of immigration enforcement hostilities, in what the president has promised will be the largest-scale deportation operation in history. The protests began after federal immigration officials began sweeps in Los Angeles County on Friday, including in the fashion district downtown.


They are under dual state and federal authority under normal circumstances. But the president can always activate them as reserve units of the regular US Army and Air Force. Then the state governor has no control.

The DC national guard is always under federal control. They can be deployed anywhere for law enforcement during protests.

Irish_Dem

(70,905 posts)
13. They have to secure the US from Americans.
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 08:11 PM
Jun 7

Americans who want to live free and not under a nazi dictatorship.

Irish_Dem

(70,905 posts)
36. Yes indeed. A disgusting amount of Americans choose evil.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:28 AM
Sunday

They adore a rapist, traitor, criminal, psychopath who is taking about our country
brick by brick.

America has lost its way into the moral abyss.

TomSlick

(12,468 posts)
17. As best I can remember, the last time POTUS federalized the National Guard to enforce the law
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 08:37 PM
Jun 7

was the Little Rock High integration crises in 1957. That was necessary only because Gov. Faubus had sent in the Arkansas Guard to thwart the enforcement of Brown v. Board. President Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas Guard and reversed its mission.

DallasNE

(7,805 posts)
29. Kind Of A Nit Pic, But
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 11:01 PM
Jun 7

President Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas National Guard to take them out of the picture. He then sent in 1,000 federal 101st Airborne troops to escort the black students to class.

"With Executive Order 10730, the President placed the Arkansas National Guard under federal control and sent 1,000 U.S. Army paratroopers from the 101st Airborne Division to assist them in restoring order in Little Rock."

https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/executive-order-10730

Attilatheblond

(6,269 posts)
23. Trump sending National Guard to LA in response to anti-ICE protests
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 09:59 PM
Jun 7
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/trump-sending-national-guard-to-la-in-response-to-anti-ice-protests/3718088/]

After the Department of Homeland Security’s widespread and public crackdown on Los Angeles’ immigration communities this week, federal officials were mobilizing some 2,000 National Guard soldiers to response to protests.

The White House confirmed Saturday that President Donald Trump has signed a directive to deploy 2,000 National Guardsmen to address "the lawlessness."

"The Trump Administration has a zero tolerance policy for criminal behavior and violence, especially when that violence is aimed at law enforcement officers trying to do their jobs," White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a statement.

DallasNE

(7,805 posts)
24. Remember Kent State
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 10:06 PM
Jun 7

Which National Guard is he sending? Has he talked to the Governor of that State? This could go south in a hurry - just saying. The blind leading the blind like this usually blows up in ones face.

niyad

(124,392 posts)
25. Umm, sorry for my ignorance. How does this not-human have the authoriy
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 10:47 PM
Jun 7

to order the NG? Silly me, I thought it was governors and the president.

D. Spaulding

(235 posts)
30. So we have demented Trump in charge
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 11:29 PM
Jun 7

and the incompetent Hegseth in charge of the Defense Dept. Recipe for major disaster.

perdita9

(1,267 posts)
35. The right of the people to peacefully assemble
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:23 AM
Sunday

The right to free speech. Every right Americans have fought for over the centuries is under threat.

Klondike Kat

(884 posts)
38. If Mr. Homan really wanted to make LA safer
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 07:49 AM
Sunday

he would remove the jackbooted, ICEstapo thugs from the city. They're the ones causing the problem.

GiqueCee

(2,349 posts)
40. But, just like his Dear Leader...
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 09:00 AM
Sunday

... Homan is a bloodthirsty psychopath. What could possibly go wrong?

eppur_se_muova

(39,130 posts)
43. Pot calling the kettle black YET AGAIN. The REAL insurrection is coming from WITHIN THE WHITE HOUSE. nt
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 01:39 PM
Sunday
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