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BumRushDaShow

(156,487 posts)
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 06:22 AM Jun 8

Andrew Yang reaches out to Musk to collaborate on new political party

Source: The Hill

06/07/25 7:36 PM ET


Former Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang said he’s reached out to Elon Musk in hopes of collaborating on the creation of a new political party, according to a Saturday interview with Politico Magazine. Yang, along with mutual friends, believes the Tesla CEO has what it takes to form a new faction that propels America’s strongest leaders.

When asked if Musk has responded to his inquiry, Yang told the outlet “Not yet, but I assume he’s been very busy.” “We have been of the opinion that America needed a new political party for a number of years, and so waiting another 24 hours is nothing,” he added.

Musk’s push for a new political caucus emerged from his public feud with President Trump over the “big, beautiful bill.” The tech giant strongly opposed the national debt increase after months of working with the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to cut federal spending.

Yang, the founder of “The Forward Party,” said it’s political outsiders like Musk who consider non-traditional approaches to the country’s problems. “I want to work with people that recognize that America’s political system has gone from dysfunctional to polarizing to even worse. And at this point, the fastest growing political movement in the United States is independents,” Yang said. “They feel like neither party represents them, and the two-party system is not delivering what they want to see,” he continued.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5338781-andrew-yang-reaches-out-to-musk-to-collaborate-on-new-political-party/

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Andrew Yang reaches out to Musk to collaborate on new political party (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 8 OP
They head up their ass party. HUTA Walleye Jun 8 #1
The "Forgot to Flush Party" was the first thing I thought. hunter Jun 8 #15
Yang again? How many times has he been rejected by voters now? brush Jun 8 #2
I can see Musk creating Dem4life1970 Jun 8 #19
Hiel Hitler salutes and all. And Yang won't object as long as he gets the attention he seeks. brush Jun 8 #35
very busy Be Leave On Jun 8 #37
Fuck both of them Sanity Claws Jun 8 #3
Here we fucking go again. This is why we can't have nice things anymore: third parties. Vinca Jun 8 #4
Nothing wrong with 3rd parties. Jirel Jun 8 #6
3rd parties do not work in a closed two party system wwith winner takes all elections. Force runoffs in ... marble falls Jun 8 #7
That's what many people don't understand PSPS Jun 8 #17
third-partier is just a political life phase cadoman Jun 8 #25
Automatic ranked voting run offs is another way that can works for this Tom Rinaldo Jun 8 #24
Third parties Cirsium Jun 8 #27
The first three weren't third parties. carpetbagger Jun 8 #29
Hair splitting maybe? Cirsium Jun 8 #31
Probably hair splitting. But... carpetbagger Jun 8 #40
I know the history Cirsium Jun 9 #43
We're not a parliamentary system like other countries. That's why 3rd parties screw up the works. I don't think Vinca Jun 8 #18
In the United States, we build our coalitions before the general election Gore1FL Jun 8 #20
That's actually a pretty good way to look at it. Lucky Luciano Jun 8 #22
Multiple parties won't work in our current system. cab67 Jun 8 #21
Third parties have never won the presidency in the u.s. ThreeNoSeep Jun 8 #32
I go with option 2. LisaM Jun 8 #33
Oh. ThreeNoSeep Jun 10 #45
Well, I probably use the term loosely, but... LisaM Jun 10 #46
I hear you ThreeNoSeep Jun 11 #47
What a loser. Jirel Jun 8 #5
Battle lines are being drawn nt Javaman Jun 8 #8
The Nader Fallacy William Seger Jun 8 #9
Yang "believes the Tesla CEO has what it takes" genxlib Jun 8 #10
E-Loon is a sociopath wolfie001 Jun 8 #12
Does he want to pick off Dem voters and help the fascists too? wolfie001 Jun 8 #11
Musk is a 'political outsider' like Leonard Leo and the Koch Brothers ToxMarz Jun 8 #13
Not this jerk again... travelingthrulife Jun 8 #14
Oh...such a winning combo..... PortTack Jun 8 #16
Gag me with a spoon. Martin68 Jun 8 #23
The Techbro Micropenis Party? n/t CousinIT Jun 8 #26
Call it the "Wealthy Tech bro party" Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 8 #28
A few possible names Icanthinkformyself Jun 8 #30
Remember this guy? BumRushDaShow Jun 8 #34
I didn't know Yang was a moron. Now I do. hay rick Jun 8 #36
Fuck these tech bros. They always think they are the smartest in the room, when they don't know jack shit. SunSeeker Jun 8 #38
This will be DOA - Musk is Radioactive in Politics NEOBuckeye Jun 8 #39
Agree. I thought Yang was smarter than this MadameButterfly Jun 8 #41
Not just no, but Heil No Hekate Jun 9 #42
Really?! Oh, geeeebz... Go Away, dude! electric_blue68 Jun 9 #44

hunter

(39,639 posts)
15. The "Forgot to Flush Party" was the first thing I thought.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 10:05 AM
Jun 8

What's most astonishing is that Yang is still falling for Musk's grift.

Or maybe he thinks he can have a piece of it, like Trump did.

Nothing Elon Musk has done, nothing he has proposed, has made the world a better place. From the very beginning, when he landed in California's Silicon Valley, it's all been about him sucking up money from gullible tech-bros and the politicians who direct the spending of our tax dollars.

brush

(60,556 posts)
2. Yang again? How many times has he been rejected by voters now?
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 06:36 AM
Jun 8

Now trying to hook up with nazi Musk.

brush

(60,556 posts)
35. Hiel Hitler salutes and all. And Yang won't object as long as he gets the attention he seeks.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 04:16 PM
Jun 8

Be Leave On

(245 posts)
37. very busy
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 06:32 PM
Jun 8

Sorta like Yang, who said Eloon has probably been very busy, a few months ago, I invited someone to dinner and I haven't heard back, so I assume they've been very busy.

Jirel

(2,345 posts)
6. Nothing wrong with 3rd parties.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 07:56 AM
Jun 8

Having more than 2 parties that matter is NORMAL. It’s the norm everywhere in the world but here, and it used to be the norm even in the US. Complaining about 3rd parties is a sign of political entitlement and lack of faith in one’s own party.

However, tech bros idiots starting 3rd parties for the sake of their egos is definitely getting old.

marble falls

(66,993 posts)
7. 3rd parties do not work in a closed two party system wwith winner takes all elections. Force runoffs in ...
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 08:00 AM
Jun 8

... elections where no party has 51% of the vote or more and they work.

PSPS

(14,711 posts)
17. That's what many people don't understand
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 10:40 AM
Jun 8

Our constitution defines a winner-take-all election which will always be a two-party system. Otherwise, we'd have a parliamentary system like most other countries. Just ask Steve Forbes, Ross Perot and others who had the same "bright idea."

cadoman

(1,464 posts)
25. third-partier is just a political life phase
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 12:17 PM
Jun 8

It makes all the sense in the world for a few years till you actually live it.

Then you realize the reality that the party infrastructure is a paper tiger but is deeply enshrined into law, that only a handful of people understand it, show up to events, and run it, and that you can have as much or as little political effect as you want by participating in the party system.

What is very real though, are powerful election spoilers who are in this life phase and can utterly disrupt a more balanced two party fight.

Tom Rinaldo

(23,126 posts)
24. Automatic ranked voting run offs is another way that can works for this
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 12:10 PM
Jun 8

You do not have to throw away your vote if you prefer an alternative candidate.

Cirsium

(2,740 posts)
27. Third parties
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 01:22 PM
Jun 8

Third parties have been highly influential may times throughout US history. The Democratic-Republican Party in the 1820s, the Whigs in the 1830s, the Republican party in the 1850s, the People's Party in the 1890s, the Bull Moose Party in 1912, the States' Rights Democratic party in 1948, the American Independent party in 1968.

carpetbagger

(5,301 posts)
29. The first three weren't third parties.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 02:00 PM
Jun 8

The Democratic Republicans in the 1820s were a factionalized, dominant party. The whigs became a second party when the Federalists collapsed, and the Republicans became the second party when the Whigs collapsed. The others at best were spoilers or parking spaces for party dissidents.

Cirsium

(2,740 posts)
31. Hair splitting maybe?
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 02:33 PM
Jun 8

All new parties were formed from elements of old parties and involved factionalized, dominant parties. When do we label a party a "third party"? Only when there happen to be three strong parties on a ballot?

carpetbagger

(5,301 posts)
40. Probably hair splitting. But...
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 10:11 PM
Jun 8

Maybe hair splitting, but the D-R Jacksonian faction, the Whigs, and the Republicans all finished second in their first presidential runs and then won in the next election. Their rise was more a resetting of the two party system replacing a previous too-two party than a third party muscling in.

My understanding has been that of internal party change being the driver. TR changed the GOP as an insider. As a third party candidate, he left the party to the McKinley-to-Hoover establishment.

Cirsium

(2,740 posts)
43. I know the history
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 11:53 AM
Jun 9

I think that when we talk about third parties here, we are really talking about Nader and Stein and that whole shit storm.

Vinca

(52,364 posts)
18. We're not a parliamentary system like other countries. That's why 3rd parties screw up the works. I don't think
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 10:43 AM
Jun 8

there has ever been a positive outcome for the country when they siphon off votes. Nader gave us George W. Bush and the Iraq War as a good example and the Green Party and Jill Stein gave us the first reign of terror under Trump. I suspect they siphoned enough votes away from Kamala to dump Trump on us again.

Gore1FL

(22,547 posts)
20. In the United States, we build our coalitions before the general election
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 10:57 AM
Jun 8

Other countries do that afterwards.

cab67

(3,436 posts)
21. Multiple parties won't work in our current system.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:33 AM
Jun 8

They work in parliamentary systems, but unless one party secures a majority, they have to form coalitions, and when the coalitions collapse, the government falls.

Third parties in the US are often staunchly opposed to the party with which they're most similar. Ask any Green Party supporter in the US if they'd cooperate with the Democratic Party, and you'll get a vigorous "no." They won't form coalitions with other parties. Thus, they act as spoilers.

ThreeNoSeep

(222 posts)
32. Third parties have never won the presidency in the u.s.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 02:46 PM
Jun 8

Yang will split progressive voters.
He is either an effing idiot who will step on the rake for voters so they can smack themselves in the face yet again, or he is a fascist snake in the grass nihilist who knows exactly what he is doing and probably working for foreign adversaries.

ThreeNoSeep

(222 posts)
45. Oh.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 08:58 AM
Jun 10

I worry you would class me as a tech bro. My career has intersected with technology for most of my life, from telecommunications engineer to website design and management. I'm far different, I hope, than the willing assholes in the Elon Musk circle, but I started my own small online business when I was younger, and embraced the startup hustle of long hours, risk-taking, and a relentless drive for success that it takes to run a business.
I'm kinda-sorta retired now, but I still manage information systems and technology for a public institution part-time.
Am I a tech bro?
Not trying to provoke, but sincerely curious about how other folks view those of us who grew up in the last century and are into technology.

LisaM

(29,283 posts)
46. Well, I probably use the term loosely, but...
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 10:49 AM
Jun 10

I mean the people who are somehow creating the dystopia we are living in, with all our data being mined relentlessly, the charms and quirks of a city (I live in Seattle) being traded in for a glorified suburbia, with a downtown Target instead of local stores, the amassing of wealth at the top (we seem to have the biggest income disparity since the Gilded Age), the inability to do anything without a smart phone, the handing over of housing stock to Airbnb, the end of brick and mortar stores (especially bookstores) thanks to Amazon, and the out-in-the-open misogyny that reigns at places like Tesla and Google.

You are probably none of those things. And obviously there are a wealth of good things that technology has brought us. But I don't like how a handful of companies have been handed the power to change our lives (including the pace of each day) so drastically with no guardrails.

ThreeNoSeep

(222 posts)
47. I hear you
Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:52 AM
Jun 11

I did a little more research to the term, and it definitely has a negative connotation of misogyny and racism. I guess I'd be more of a entrepereneurial technophile than a tech bro. Thanks for the clarification.

William Seger

(11,725 posts)
9. The Nader Fallacy
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 08:51 AM
Jun 8

The Nader Fallacy is the belief that someone who can't even come close to winning the nomination of either major party could nonetheless win the general election running as a third-party candidate. It's equivalent to believing that less than half of all Democrats plus less than half of Republicans could somehow add up to more than half of all voters.

genxlib

(5,929 posts)
10. Yang "believes the Tesla CEO has what it takes"
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 08:52 AM
Jun 8

Yeah...several hundred billion dollars and a powerful social media platform.

That is what he has that Yang needs to be relevant.

Actual policies be damned.

Go away...again.

ToxMarz

(2,491 posts)
13. Musk is a 'political outsider' like Leonard Leo and the Koch Brothers
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 09:21 AM
Jun 8

are 'political outsiders'. Puppeteer would be a better description. His ideas are crazy, self-serving, sociopathic and drug-addled. Labeling them as 'non-tradtional' doesn't magically give them virtue.

Icanthinkformyself

(334 posts)
30. A few possible names
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 02:20 PM
Jun 8

The 'I Got Mine FU' Party. The OO* Party. *"Oligarchs Only". The 'Batsh!t Crazies' or 'Heads up A**es' Party. The 'We Will Accomplish Nothing and Just Piss Everyone Off' party. Go away Andrew. That's a request, not a name suggestion.

SunSeeker

(56,151 posts)
38. Fuck these tech bros. They always think they are the smartest in the room, when they don't know jack shit.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 06:33 PM
Jun 8

NEOBuckeye

(2,888 posts)
39. This will be DOA - Musk is Radioactive in Politics
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 08:56 PM
Jun 8

And Yang won't be far behind if he aligns with him.

MadameButterfly

(3,253 posts)
41. Agree. I thought Yang was smarter than this
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:49 PM
Jun 8

And more Progressive, actually cared about people. Now I'll never give him a second thought.
Damn idiot billionaires who meddle in our futures for sport.

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