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LastLiberal in PalmSprings

(13,284 posts)
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 04:40 AM Jun 2025

Donald Trump warns 'we are going to have troops everywhere' after ICE protests

Source: The Daily Express

President Donald Trump warned there will be "troops everywhere" when asked if he will take more action if protests, like those in LA, continue to rage.

In a directive Saturday, Trump invoked a legal provision allowing him to deploy federal service members when there is ”a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States.”

"We are going to have troops everywhere," Trump said after touching down on Air Force One in New Jersey on Sunday. "We are not going to let this happen to our country."
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On Saturday, Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids intensified in the area following demonstrations at a federal detention center, where police used tear gas and flash-bangs and detained a union leader.

Border Patrol agents donned riot gear and gas masks as they stood watch outside an industrial park in Paramount, releasing tear gas among the crowd of onlookers and demonstrators who lined the sidewalks, some heckling the officers while filming the scene on their phones.

Read more: https://www.the-express.com/news/politics/174229/donald-trump-national-guard-insurrection-fears



Step One: Take over the biggest city in the most populus state.

Step Two: Have your "border czar" arrest the governor and/or mayor if they get in the way.

Repeat for each Blue state.

Having a huge military parade to celebrate yourself.
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Donald Trump warns 'we are going to have troops everywhere' after ICE protests (Original Post) LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2025 OP
He's creating the perception The Wizard Jun 2025 #1
That is the EXACT reason Mossfern Jun 2025 #12
The Man-baby's response to TACO? thought crime Jun 2025 #20
Yes, he does. BlueKentuckyGirl Jun 2025 #23
It's not nice to accuse penises of being ugly. yellow dahlia Jun 2025 #30
One purpose of the parade is to warn Americans what they are up against if they cross him. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #2
Perhaps, the whole fucking parade thing will backfire yugely. Magoo48 Jun 2025 #5
We can hope. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #8
fascist asshole is a fascist asshole LymphocyteLover Jun 2025 #3
There are many of the generals who have been vocal about him. hamsterjill Jun 2025 #4
Reminds me of the "Jade Helm 15" conspiracy theories thought crime Jun 2025 #19
Oh, yes. I remember Jade Helm hamsterjill Jun 2025 #22
Quick... someone blame a few non-U.S. flags for this nonsense! Torchlight Jun 2025 #6
I did just that two minutes ago. Mossfern Jun 2025 #13
Yep, he's dense, but the sheer #s of people out protesting him have made him aware Attilatheblond Jun 2025 #15
Logic relies on facts. The Wizard Jun 2025 #34
So much for Republicans being anti-socialist DFW Jun 2025 #7
Civil war is what he wants. twodogsbarking Jun 2025 #9
Civil war is what he'll get. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2025 #10
Descend on his parade. Historic NY Jun 2025 #11
Not a good idea Mossfern Jun 2025 #14
Everywhere progree Jun 2025 #16
It would have been nice if the Daily Express had... LudwigPastorius Jun 2025 #17
Here's a link with words from the horse's mouth uppityperson Jun 2025 #24
Thanks, but I was looking for the memorandum... LudwigPastorius Jun 2025 #31
He should pray Dan Jun 2025 #18
The Commander in Chief has chosen an enemy. It's US civilians. Good night and fucking good luck. n/t Evolve Dammit Jun 2025 #21
If our military were to uphold their oaths, they would and should overthrow him for that statement. But I'm not holding Karasu Jun 2025 #25
I can't wait till President AOC does this Renew Deal Jun 2025 #26
Go ahead YoshidaYui Jun 2025 #27
Where the F was he when the Capital was attacked? Firestorm49 Jun 2025 #28
🤔 Gee but it keeps happening when you're POTUS underpants Jun 2025 #29
If trump imposes Marshall Law then constitution is suspended? AlexSFCA Jun 2025 #32
It's "martial law," although "marshall law" is a common mistake. It sounds more logical. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2025 #33
Easier said than done Nonnia Bisnez Jun 2025 #35

The Wizard

(13,558 posts)
1. He's creating the perception
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 05:55 AM
Jun 2025

of an insurrection to impose unmitigated martial law. This is right out of Stephen Miller's poisoned brain. Does Miller look like a talking penis?

Irish_Dem

(79,372 posts)
2. One purpose of the parade is to warn Americans what they are up against if they cross him.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:10 AM
Jun 2025

The US military can be sent to their city to destroy it.

hamsterjill

(16,912 posts)
4. There are many of the generals who have been vocal about him.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 07:13 AM
Jun 2025

They need to all be speaking up in specific terms right now. Speaking up, and speaking up loudly!!!! Yes, I understand that their comments will fall on many deaf ears, but SOMEONE needs to be addressing the illegality of what he's doing with the military.

thought crime

(1,145 posts)
19. Reminds me of the "Jade Helm 15" conspiracy theories
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 12:43 PM
Jun 2025

When Obama was President there was a military exercise planned in Louisiana and Texas. There was an explosion of far right heads who accused Obama of a secret plot to invade Texas, etc. Among other things it was described as a "psychological operation aimed at getting people used to seeing military forces on the streets" and would be used to "stockpile supplies for Chinese troops who will be arriving to disarm Americans". A lot of it was vintage Alex Jones.

Now Trump is actually doing something worse than the whacky conspiracy theorists could imagine. Deploying National Guard troops against the objection of the Governor of California who said it is “an illegal act, an immoral act, an unconstitutional act.”

hamsterjill

(16,912 posts)
22. Oh, yes. I remember Jade Helm
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 01:48 PM
Jun 2025

Lifelong Texan here, and lifelong Democrat. I live amongst some real doozies around here.

Torchlight

(6,267 posts)
6. Quick... someone blame a few non-U.S. flags for this nonsense!
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 07:26 AM
Jun 2025

(sarcasm if not immediately obvious as such)

Mossfern

(4,597 posts)
13. I did just that two minutes ago.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 09:42 AM
Jun 2025

He will use ANY excuse to proclaim martial law.
You may think I'm silly, but I truly believe that they will use that as an excuse.

Remember, Magat logic is not the same as ours.

Attilatheblond

(8,143 posts)
15. Yep, he's dense, but the sheer #s of people out protesting him have made him aware
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 10:15 AM
Jun 2025

and the rabid bunny inside him knows that only martial law is gonna save his ass.

He wrongly assumed being in the White House was the lifeboat that would take him to safety. He was wrong and he sees that now. Gonna hide behind the military people he has long disparaged and screws over when they are out of the service and need healthcare.

Screw him & the delusions he relies on.

DFW

(59,688 posts)
7. So much for Republicans being anti-socialist
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 07:30 AM
Jun 2025

This perfectly describes socialist East Germany with propaganda banners and troops goose-stepping everywhere.

10. Civil war is what he'll get.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 08:43 AM
Jun 2025

In this case "civil" will not be its usual "courteous and polite" meaning, which is way we've been responding.

Rather it will meet the very definition of "civil war":

A civil war is a politically organized, large-scale, sustained, physically. violent conflict that occurs within a country principally among large/numerically. important groups of its inhabitants or citizens over the monopoly of physical force.


Time to kick ass!

Make America Sane Again!

progree

(12,711 posts)
16. Everywhere
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 10:24 AM
Jun 2025

I want to be with you everywhere, Fleetwood Mac and the troops



OK, it doesn't show any troops, but this is close with the Trojans marching in


Ooops, that doesn't show them marching in, they are already there at the beginning, uhh, everywhere

I might be thinking of a Tina Turner clip where they came marching in.

LudwigPastorius

(14,047 posts)
17. It would have been nice if the Daily Express had...
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 11:55 AM
Jun 2025

links to Trump’s “directive” and the legal provision it referred to in the article.

The Express is a bit of a right wing rag, so I’m not going to swallow this without proof.

LudwigPastorius

(14,047 posts)
31. Thanks, but I was looking for the memorandum...
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:45 PM
Jun 2025

Trump signed yesterday which is supposed to cite the statute that gives him the right to do what he did.

Dan

(4,927 posts)
18. He should pray
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 12:06 PM
Jun 2025

That a real patriotic American soldier doesn't have a strong commitment to the constitution and loads one up the pipe the day of his parade.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
25. If our military were to uphold their oaths, they would and should overthrow him for that statement. But I'm not holding
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 04:18 PM
Jun 2025

my breath.

underpants

(194,587 posts)
29. 🤔 Gee but it keeps happening when you're POTUS
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 04:43 PM
Jun 2025

2020 and now. This is forced by him though. They are getting what they wanted - film of “riots” and seeming chaos.

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
32. If trump imposes Marshall Law then constitution is suspended?
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 07:24 PM
Jun 2025

that means no due process, no elections, etc.

33. It's "martial law," although "marshall law" is a common mistake. It sounds more logical.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 08:33 AM
Jun 2025
Martial Law in Times of Civil Disorder

When martial law is in effect, the military commander of an area or country has unlimited authority to make and enforce laws.

Martial law is justified when civilian authority has ceased to function, is completely absent, or has become ineffective. Further, martial law suspends all existing laws, as well as civil authority and the ordinary administration of justice.

In the United States, martial law may be declared by proclamation of the President or a State governor, but such a formal proclamation is not necessary. Although the U.S. Constitution makes no specific provision for the imposition of martial law, nearly every State has a constitutional provision authorizing the government to impose martial law.

The power of martial law, once held to be nearly absolute, has limitations; for example, civilians may not be tried by military tribunals as long as civilian courts are functional. Nonetheless, within the bounds of court decisions, a military commander's authority under martial law is virtually unlimited. Martial law has been declared nine times since World War II and, in five instances, was designed to counter resistance to Federal desegregation decrees in the South.

Although a climate of mutual aid has always existed between the military and civilian law enforcement and should continue to exist, Department of Defense personnel are limited in what they can do to enforce civil law. Military personnel cannot be used in surveillance or undercover operations, and they may not be used as informants, investigators, or interrogators unless the investigation is a joint military-civilian operation in which the military has an interest in the case's outcome.

Source: Journal Law and Order
 

Nonnia Bisnez

(90 posts)
35. Easier said than done
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:16 PM
Jun 2025

Logistical nightmare. Trump would have to contract/commandeer a lot of civilian resources, which would make them unavailable to civilians. Also, national guard troops have day jobs. Deploying most of the national guard/reserve combined with deporting immigrants would cause a tremendous labor shortage, which could cause inflation and shortages. If active duty personnel deployed, then demand would be depressed in base communities which could cause layoffs by businesses near bases.

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