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GJGCA

(34 posts)
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 01:42 PM Yesterday

Iran is reeling from Israel's unprecedented attack - and it is only the start

Source: BBC

Israel's "Operation Rising Lion", as it calls its attack on Iran, is unprecedented. It is vastly more extensive and ambitious than anything that has come before, including the two missile and drone exchanges it had with Iran last year. For Iran, this is the biggest assault on its territory since the Iran-Iraq War of 1980-1988
...
Iran is reeling and this may be only the first wave. There will be many more potential targets on Israel's hitlist, although some may be beyond its reach, buried deep underground in reinforced bases beneath solid rock.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg72ny4xeyo

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Iran is reeling from Israel's unprecedented attack - and it is only the start (Original Post) GJGCA Yesterday OP
This is exactly what happened to the Ukraine. Trump's fingerprints are all over it. live love laugh Yesterday #1
Pay attention. It's not The Ukraine NoRethugFriends 5 hrs ago #30
And the fascist right couldn't be more pleased - in Israel and the US. J_William_Ryan Yesterday #2
What a stupid name Bayard Yesterday #3
Iran does not have nukes NoRethugFriends 5 hrs ago #31
I'm betting they can afford to buy one Bayard 5 hrs ago #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Yesterday #4
It satisfied bibi's Frankenstein RW coalition to stave off a threatened no-confidence vote PSPS Yesterday #5
Trump is going to pull us into this war..... Butterflylady Yesterday #6
This will put many Jews around the world in danger Nigrum Cattus 23 hrs ago #7
Unlike now you mean? FBaggins 7 hrs ago #26
This is what should have happened the minute the hostages were taken The Mouth 23 hrs ago #8
Will you support Iran getting nuked? Eko 18 hrs ago #12
What an odd question. MarineCombatEngineer 17 hrs ago #16
Why is that an odd question? Eko 16 hrs ago #17
Maybe that's what was meant, maybe it wasn't, MarineCombatEngineer 16 hrs ago #18
Me neither, Eko 16 hrs ago #19
Hopefully said person will return and clarify, MarineCombatEngineer 16 hrs ago #20
Prob just a case of someone saying something without really thinking about it. Eko 16 hrs ago #21
Or just the baseline assumption... FBaggins 7 hrs ago #27
While that is empirically true. we are in the vice of a demented toddler... ananda 8 hrs ago #25
And just in time for trump's little parade. C Moon 23 hrs ago #9
Netanyahoo seems to think Israel is insulated from damaging counterattacks. WestMichRad 18 hrs ago #10
Part of the reason it took so long for Israel to go after Iran is because they wanted to mitigate those counterattacks. Lancero 5 hrs ago #34
This one could get real ugly. republianmushroom 18 hrs ago #11
How so? tavernier 17 hrs ago #15
Iran could start playing with their nuclear toys. republianmushroom 16 hrs ago #22
What nuclear toys? DavidDvorkin 13 hrs ago #23
The nuclear toys they don't have? NoRethugFriends 5 hrs ago #32
Yup, those. republianmushroom 3 hrs ago #35
Fuck Iran. nt LexVegas 17 hrs ago #13
Iran is retaliating big time! womanofthehills 10 hrs ago #24
Sorta the point of the whole exercise FBaggins 6 hrs ago #29
What would be the response if someone said "fuck Israel" instead? Orrex 7 hrs ago #28
This message was self-deleted by its author PatrickforB 17 hrs ago #14

NoRethugFriends

(3,378 posts)
30. Pay attention. It's not The Ukraine
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 08:57 AM
5 hrs ago

And this is in no way comfortable to you Ukraine situation. Ukraine pose no threat, I ran posed big threat.

J_William_Ryan

(2,793 posts)
2. And the fascist right couldn't be more pleased - in Israel and the US.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 01:49 PM
Yesterday

This was the intent of Trump withdrawing from the JCPOA in 2018, to facilitate an attack on Iran ‘justified’ by Iran’s ‘nuclear threat.’

Bayard

(25,451 posts)
3. What a stupid name
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 01:50 PM
Yesterday

Netanyahu is like trump, thinking he can do whatever he wants and no one is going to stop him. Like I said earlier in another thread--nobody knows for sure if Iran may already have nukes or not.

NoRethugFriends

(3,378 posts)
31. Iran does not have nukes
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 08:59 AM
5 hrs ago

Israeli intelligence is excellent. That's how they pulled this off.

Response to GJGCA (Original post)

PSPS

(14,592 posts)
5. It satisfied bibi's Frankenstein RW coalition to stave off a threatened no-confidence vote
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 01:54 PM
Yesterday

Anything to stay in power since it's the only thing keeping him out of prison.

Butterflylady

(4,454 posts)
6. Trump is going to pull us into this war.....
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 02:39 PM
Yesterday

He's been looking forward to it since day 1.....he wants to see blood no matter who it is.

Fetterman will be the first to volunteer.

Nigrum Cattus

(627 posts)
7. This will put many Jews around the world in danger
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 02:45 PM
23 hrs ago

Also, it is to reduce their nuclear program. Problem
is, it will only solidify their resolve to have nukes to
prevent this from happening in the future. This a war
between Jews & Muslims and nobody has the balls to
admit it.

The Mouth

(3,353 posts)
8. This is what should have happened the minute the hostages were taken
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 02:57 PM
23 hrs ago

Never forget. To hell with Iran. Ill support *ANYTHING* Israel or the US does to them.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,597 posts)
16. What an odd question.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 09:39 PM
17 hrs ago

Why would Iran get nuked? And from who?
Israel doesn't have to nuke Iran, and neither does the US or any nuke armed country, conventional means alone are more than enough to neutralize Iran.

Eko

(9,374 posts)
17. Why is that an odd question?
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 09:51 PM
16 hrs ago

The person I asked it of said exactly "Ill support *ANYTHING* Israel or the US does to them." I fail to see how it is and odd question in any way.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,597 posts)
18. Maybe that's what was meant, maybe it wasn't,
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 10:03 PM
16 hrs ago

but just for the record, I would most definitely not support a nuclear strike on Iran, there's no need for it and Israel knows there's no need for it.

Eko

(9,374 posts)
19. Me neither,
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 10:14 PM
16 hrs ago

Between our B1's, B2's and 52's there is no need to. I just thought that was an extreme stance and asked for clarification.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,597 posts)
20. Hopefully said person will return and clarify,
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 10:20 PM
16 hrs ago

nuking Iran would be a colossal disaster and a horrendous war crime for any nation.

Eko

(9,374 posts)
21. Prob just a case of someone saying something without really thinking about it.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 10:25 PM
16 hrs ago

Happens to all of us, but I still had to ask.

FBaggins

(28,114 posts)
27. Or just the baseline assumption...
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:04 AM
7 hrs ago

… that there’s no chance of the West using nuclear weapons first in a conflict.

ananda

(32,117 posts)
25. While that is empirically true. we are in the vice of a demented toddler...
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 06:20 AM
8 hrs ago

who thinks of nukes as a fun play toy
that will make him king of the world.

He tried to use them in his first term, stopped
only by the actions of General Milley.

Now we have no sane, competent military leaders

WestMichRad

(2,337 posts)
10. Netanyahoo seems to think Israel is insulated from damaging counterattacks.
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 08:02 PM
18 hrs ago

Perhaps embolden by how successful they’ve been to date in fending off drone and missile attacks.

Their luck won’t last forever. Expect attacks against US interests as well. Iran and its allies will keep striving for ways to inflict retribution.

Lancero

(3,186 posts)
34. Part of the reason it took so long for Israel to go after Iran is because they wanted to mitigate those counterattacks.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:41 AM
5 hrs ago

Its why Israel held back after Irans ballistic missile and drone barrages in 2024 - They knew they needed to focus their attention on Irans irregular forces, their terrorist proxies.

tavernier

(13,747 posts)
15. How so?
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 09:13 PM
17 hrs ago

Just because we have a spoiled five year old with Carte Blanche dying to try out all the bang bang toys he’s been given? Sounds to me like it’ll be a pretty quick ending. No point in even buckling in.

womanofthehills

(9,862 posts)
24. Iran is retaliating big time!
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:43 AM
10 hrs ago

3 or 4 groups of ballistic missiles attached Israel today with missile defense systems not working at 100%. Interesting - but from what I’ve read on social media today, it’s the rare person supporting Israel. Many Republicans have had it with Trump today - Trump referring to himself as the peace candidate and then being for all the wars.

FBaggins

(28,114 posts)
29. Sorta the point of the whole exercise
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 08:21 AM
6 hrs ago

Israel can handle this level of “big time”

A nuclear Iran changes that calculus

Orrex

(65,332 posts)
28. What would be the response if someone said "fuck Israel" instead?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:06 AM
7 hrs ago

I suspect that I can guess at the response.

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