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MN2theMax

(1,981 posts)
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:08 AM 15 hrs ago

Two MN Lawmakers Shot in Their Homes

Source: KSTP ABC News

Minnesota state senator John Hoffman in Champlin and Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman in Brooklyn Park were reportedly shot in their homes by a gunman impersonating a police officer.

Read more: https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/sources-say-two-minnesota-lawmakers-have-been-shot/



Well, this is a frightening start to the day. Suspect(s) still at large.
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Two MN Lawmakers Shot in Their Homes (Original Post) MN2theMax 15 hrs ago OP
Conditions unknown Marthe48 15 hrs ago #1
It's a lot worse than ridiculous. It's terrifying. Ocelot II 15 hrs ago #8
My vocabulary is failing Marthe48 15 hrs ago #12
No source for her dying, however muriel_volestrangler 15 hrs ago #11
Thanks Marthe48 15 hrs ago #13
The article I read says their condition is unknown, but grave. MoonchildCA 14 hrs ago #46
Speaker of the house Melissa Hortman and her husband did not survive. LiberalBrooke 13 hrs ago #56
Sad news Marthe48 13 hrs ago #59
OMG. 😱 AllyCat 13 hrs ago #64
This is so tragic. 😥 ShazzieB 12 hrs ago #69
The MAGA "final solution." SergeStorms 9 hrs ago #93
Rep. Hartman and her husband died lonely bird 13 hrs ago #63
DAMN! Bayard 15 hrs ago #2
Both Dems MN2theMax 15 hrs ago #4
Former speaker of the house, through last December, 2025 SharonAnn 11 hrs ago #83
Both Dems, DFL party Marthe48 15 hrs ago #5
Democratic LiberalArkie 15 hrs ago #6
Holy shit. Watch, it will be a pardoned January Sixer. mjvpi 15 hrs ago #3
Who'll be pardoned once again. SergeStorms 9 hrs ago #95
Of course YepYep 15 hrs ago #7
DFL, Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party sop 15 hrs ago #17
Horrifying. Like the cosplay ICE agents kidnapping our neighbors off the streets. nt SunSeeker 15 hrs ago #9
Wonder where the shooter got the idea to dress up as a LEO to commit his crime? sop 14 hrs ago #22
Exactly. Trump is the best thing to happen to criminals, ever! SunSeeker 14 hrs ago #24
Considering the way ICE dresses up as gangsters, even with masks, soldierant 9 hrs ago #92
Maybe not "dressed up" at all? SergeStorms 9 hrs ago #96
And so the day starts SorellaLaBefana 15 hrs ago #10
USA Today doesn't even mention the victims were lawmakers SorellaLaBefana 15 hrs ago #14
Oddly, the local Fox Station has the best reporting I've found so far SorellaLaBefana 15 hrs ago #16
Local Fox broadcase stations aren't propaganda outlets like the national cable station. Ocelot II 14 hrs ago #21
Yes, agree. Fox tv shows were really progressive and out there too. ananda 14 hrs ago #25
Agreed wryter2000 14 hrs ago #29
I found the Fox9 to be the most detailed and emphathetic reporting on Somali-Americans in a burning building progree 14 hrs ago #31
And MN House is tied and Senate has Dems with a 1 seat majority Mr.WeRP 14 hrs ago #23
The legislature doesn't reconvene until January, and if it becomes necessary Ocelot II 14 hrs ago #36
One of the suspects was taken into custody in Brooklyn Park progree 15 hrs ago #15
Thanks for this update SorellaLaBefana 15 hrs ago #18
This is civil war. Trumpers are out to kill liberals Mr.WeRP 15 hrs ago #19
Frightening indeed. Attempted murder instigated after laughing off Paul Pelosi. This has roots. Hope they live and perp Evolve Dammit 14 hrs ago #20
TWO different locations** Both close to Mpls but still a drive between the two........ riversedge 14 hrs ago #26
And who NOW thinks that Felon-47 would not like to pardon them for doing his bidding? Ol Janx Spirit 14 hrs ago #27
'Something' was broken around here long before that orange gibbon took office for the first time. OldBaldy1701E 14 hrs ago #30
Pattern here Kali999 14 hrs ago #28
No, the PA arsonist was just a run of Deminpenn 5 hrs ago #111
Omg! I hope everyone is ok! SheltieLover 14 hrs ago #32
Trying to scare the 'opposition', eh? OldBaldy1701E 14 hrs ago #33
This exemplifies the reasons ICE & other leos cannot be masked & must be ideftifiable! SheltieLover 14 hrs ago #34
Ali Velshi on MSNBC just said they'd be bringing more details on this shooting after the break Rhiannon12866 14 hrs ago #35
White House and Fucks News will claim the shooter is from Antifa. generalbetrayus 14 hrs ago #37
Math enters the conversation. The state house is tied 67 Dems-67 Reps, the state senate is 34 Dems-33 Reps. Efilroft Sul 14 hrs ago #38
They need to find the culprit & find him fast. William769 14 hrs ago #39
MAGA wants a hot Civil War Glaisne 14 hrs ago #40
it is DEMOCRACY vs FASCISM Skittles 1 hr ago #115
I hope they catch the SOB's. And too bad that Minnesota. raccoon 14 hrs ago #41
So much for claiming to be "the party of law and order" Grim Chieftain 14 hrs ago #42
To a MAGA that is law and order. nt doc03 13 hrs ago #52
MSM in 3...2... "Both sides need to cool it down..." Alice B. 14 hrs ago #43
News conference Mrsfiddlegirl 14 hrs ago #44
WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CIVIL WAR. Basso8vb 13 hrs ago #48
Unfortunately it may take that mvd 13 hrs ago #51
If that's the case, start arming up and hitting the shooting range NickB79 13 hrs ago #53
Time to hold politicians timms139 13 hrs ago #50
No, it's the voters who are responsible The Grand Illuminist 4 hrs ago #113
Mahalo for Gov Walz' statement. Cha 7 hrs ago #107
Also, their spouses have also been shot. JohnSJ 14 hrs ago #45
It was only a matter of time. The republicans cheered on the guy who tried to kill Nancy Pelosi's husband. BComplex 14 hrs ago #47
Assassins Norrrm 13 hrs ago #49
Also: Stargleamer 10 hrs ago #84
A caveat from Betty Bowers krkaufman 6 hrs ago #109
Thanks. Norrrm 2 hrs ago #114
if you go to xitter they are already blaming democrats moonshinegnomie 13 hrs ago #54
Governor Walz update cbabe 13 hrs ago #55
Here's the effed up thing about this, apart from the obvious... SKKY 13 hrs ago #57
The media will focus just on this and not the no kings protests Dangling0826 13 hrs ago #58
Security details for every Mountainguy 13 hrs ago #60
trumpthugs.. mountain grammy 13 hrs ago #61
Apparently authorities have their vehicle GopherGal 13 hrs ago #62
And the vehicle looks like a police vehicle - this has been carefully planned muriel_volestrangler 12 hrs ago #75
Everyone needs to wait before assigning blame for this, thought we would have learned by now toesonthenose 13 hrs ago #65
"by a gunman impersonating a police officer" IronLionZion 12 hrs ago #66
one of the articles says the gunman exited the house AmandaRuth 12 hrs ago #67
They claim shots were fired by real cops and fake cop. JanMichael 12 hrs ago #71
Not necessarily an impersonation. Marcuse 12 hrs ago #68
This is serious news LilElf70 12 hrs ago #70
Top story on CNN Fox ABC NBC and CBS websites underpants 12 hrs ago #74
Wait a few months if and after they are convicted LiberalLovinLug 12 hrs ago #72
$1000 says it was NOT an illegal immigrant. (nt) Maine-i-ac 12 hrs ago #73
These were political assassinations dlk 12 hrs ago #76
Yes LilElf70 11 hrs ago #80
Such horrible news democrank 11 hrs ago #77
drumph's america bagimin 11 hrs ago #78
Trump's America! UCmeNdc 11 hrs ago #79
I wonder who was behind these killings? katmondoo 11 hrs ago #81
This message was self-deleted by its author jcmaine72 11 hrs ago #82
Right wind death squads LudwigPastorius 10 hrs ago #85
This occurred because of that vile pig in the WH wolfie001 10 hrs ago #86
The shooter has been identified as Vance Boelter MustLoveBeagles 10 hrs ago #87
Google search brings up Dr. Vance Boelter radical noodle 9 hrs ago #88
Hope he's caught soon MustLoveBeagles 9 hrs ago #89
well catsudon 9 hrs ago #94
He was twice appointed to the non-partisan radical noodle 8 hrs ago #97
Watching MSNBC MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #100
I'm watching MSNBC but missed that radical noodle 8 hrs ago #102
Maybe that was his next target. tanyev 8 hrs ago #104
Anything is possible right now MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #105
Also, I don't know where you get your news, radical noodle 8 hrs ago #98
Right now we don't have enough information MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #101
NYT update on Boelter's job tonekat 9 hrs ago #90
The Economic Times radical noodle 8 hrs ago #103
Post removed Post removed 9 hrs ago #91
You need to get your facts straight. radical noodle 8 hrs ago #99
The simplest problem here is ProudToronto 7 hrs ago #106
Your concern is noted JoseBalow 6 hrs ago #110
GD Catch this Terrorist Assassin, POLICE!! Cha 6 hrs ago #108
This is exactly the same kind of Jan.6 violence being inspired by our Felon in Chief! n/t AntiFascist 4 hrs ago #112

Marthe48

(20,838 posts)
1. Conditions unknown
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:18 AM
15 hrs ago

Spouses were shot too.

This is unacceptable, assassinating politicians and their spouses.

Ocelot II

(125,232 posts)
8. It's a lot worse than ridiculous. It's terrifying.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:29 AM
15 hrs ago

Two Democratic legislators shot in their homes by someone impersonating a police officer? This happened in my state in suburbs of my city. WTF?

Marthe48

(20,838 posts)
12. My vocabulary is failing
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:35 AM
15 hrs ago

I doubt that the assassination of political figures will cause the (formerly) s.c. to make changes to the course they're on. They won't realize that no one is immune from murder by gun until the gun is pointed at them.

It just occurred to me: how do they know the guy i impersonating a cop? What if he's a cop, impersonating a human being?

My heart goes out to the families and survivors.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,884 posts)
11. No source for her dying, however
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:34 AM
15 hrs ago

It (currently) links to a Fox 9 report for the shooting, but that says "What we don't know: We are waiting to confirm the condition of the two lawmakers and their spouses. "

The death date was added by an anonymous edit that just said "killed by some fake cop" without attribution, and that phrase, but not the date, was then removed. Don't place any weight on this anonymous claim.

... and within seconds, someone (not me) has removed the death date.

LiberalBrooke

(572 posts)
56. Speaker of the house Melissa Hortman and her husband did not survive.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:08 AM
13 hrs ago

State Senator Hoffman and his wife are out of surgery. Yes, both are Dems. So sad

ShazzieB

(20,883 posts)
69. This is so tragic. 😥
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:08 PM
12 hrs ago

And, they are/were both Dems!

The first thing I did was look up their party affiliations. Anyone else smell a huge MAGA skunk in the woodpile here?

SergeStorms

(19,623 posts)
93. The MAGA "final solution."
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:34 PM
9 hrs ago

This is exactly what republicans want. Ruling (not governing) through fear, intimidation, and death, if necessary.
Failure to comply with their fascist intentions will result in removal - by any means necessary - from their glorious coup d'ètat.

SergeStorms

(19,623 posts)
95. Who'll be pardoned once again.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:38 PM
9 hrs ago

"He was exercising his 1st and 2nd amendment rights." 😢

sop

(14,667 posts)
22. Wonder where the shooter got the idea to dress up as a LEO to commit his crime?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:54 AM
14 hrs ago

Other criminals have used the same MO in recent days. What are innocent Americans supposed to do now when approached in their homes by armed, masked strangers, dressed up as law enforcement, refusing to identify themselves? Resist, fight back, possibly be brutalized or shot? Yet another consequence of Trump ignoring the rule of law and due process

soldierant

(8,601 posts)
92. Considering the way ICE dresses up as gangsters, even with masks,
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:17 PM
9 hrs ago

I would be inclined to be very suspicious of a cop who dressed like a cop

SergeStorms

(19,623 posts)
96. Maybe not "dressed up" at all?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:46 PM
9 hrs ago

Lawn enforcement is littered with white supremacist, power-mad, right-wingnuts. The vehicle used for his escape was reportedly that of a LEO, or a close copy thereof.
The uniform.
The vehicle.
The weapon.
The expertise with said weapon........ = ?
We'll know shortly.

SorellaLaBefana

(361 posts)
10. And so the day starts
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:30 AM
15 hrs ago

Interesting that the party affiliations are not (as of this time) being given in the news report.

Ocelot II

(125,232 posts)
21. Local Fox broadcase stations aren't propaganda outlets like the national cable station.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:51 AM
14 hrs ago

This one is pretty neutral, does a decent job with local stories.

ananda

(32,136 posts)
25. Yes, agree. Fox tv shows were really progressive and out there too.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:04 AM
14 hrs ago

I haven't watched local Fox in awhile since I cut the cable.

I only stream PBS shows now.

progree

(11,992 posts)
31. I found the Fox9 to be the most detailed and emphathetic reporting on Somali-Americans in a burning building
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:15 AM
14 hrs ago

and also continued reporting on the condition of the survivors in the aftermath, and the fundraisers on their behalf, more so than any of the other local news outlets.

This was on a very cold icy day in January 2014, and I was following the story on several local news stations - CBS, NBC, ABC, MPR as well as Fox9. And posting updates here on DU.

They were living in apartments above a store in the Cedar-Riverside neighborhood of Minneapolis (sometimes called Little Mogadishu) when a natural gas fire engulfed the building. (Two doors south of Palmer's Bar).

Three deaths, several injuries.

A one year retrospective (with picture taken the next morning) --
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/01/01/cedar-fire

Ocelot II

(125,232 posts)
36. The legislature doesn't reconvene until January, and if it becomes necessary
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:20 AM
14 hrs ago

to replace anybody (I hope not), the governor will call a special election. Since there will be no legislating for another 7 months I suspect this was intended as a warning and a threat at least as much as an attempt to change the balance of the legislature.

progree

(11,992 posts)
15. One of the suspects was taken into custody in Brooklyn Park
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:41 AM
15 hrs ago
One of the suspects was taken into custody in Brooklyn Park after an officer-involved shooting. The second suspect is still at large.

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2025/06/minnesota-hoffman-hortman-shooting/

Nothing about the conditions of the victims in the article at this moment

Evolve Dammit

(20,799 posts)
20. Frightening indeed. Attempted murder instigated after laughing off Paul Pelosi. This has roots. Hope they live and perp
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:50 AM
14 hrs ago

caught

riversedge

(76,030 posts)
26. TWO different locations** Both close to Mpls but still a drive between the two........
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:04 AM
14 hrs ago

I used to live in Mpls --so know the area somewhat.
We used to go boating on the Mississippi near Champlin
So horrible for this to happen.



Breaking News
Minnesota Senator John Hoffman and State Rep. Melissa Hortman shot at their homes
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2025/06/minnesota-hoffman-hortman-shooting/
Published on June 14, 2025

By BNO News
Melissa Hortman (D) and John Hoffman (D)

Minnesota Senator John Hoffman and State Representative Melissa Hortman, along with their spouses, have been shot by men dressed as police officers who showed up at their homes in Brooklyn Park and Champlin, according to law enforcement sources and local media.

The first shooting happened just after 2 a.m. on Saturday
at the Champlin home of State Senator John Hoffman, a Democrat who has served in the Minnesota Senate since 2013. Hoffman suffered at least two gunshot wounds while his wife Yvette was shot three times.

A second shooting happened a few miles south, near the Edinburgh Golf Course in Brooklyn Park, at the home of State Representative Melissa Hortman, who has served in the House since 2005. She’s also the Democratic leader in the Minnesota House. Both Hortman and her husband Mark were shot.

There is currently no official word on the conditions of the victims.


“Police are looking for a suspect in multiple targeted shootings who is armed and dangerous,” Brooklyn Park Police said in an emergency alert sent to residents at 5:30 a.m. “Suspect is white male, brown hair, wearing black body armor over blue shirt and blue pants and may misrepresent himself as law enforcement.”

A second emergency alert sent at 7 a.m. confirmed that the suspect is dressed like a police officer. “Do not approach and do not answer door unless two officers approach together. Call 911 to verify officer identity first,” it said.....................

Ol Janx Spirit

(279 posts)
27. And who NOW thinks that Felon-47 would not like to pardon them for doing his bidding?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:06 AM
14 hrs ago

Since it was done in a state he can't pardon those murder charges, but if it was done in DC--like with the J6 felons--he could. And a friendly red-state governor with pardon power could also go along with him... It feels so chillingly inevitable. You can imagine the horrible rhetoric that will preceded the public signing ceremony.

And then it will be open season on any Democrat.

He and MAGA have broken something in the soul of this nation.

Apparently to break a soul you only need to not have one....

OldBaldy1701E

(8,042 posts)
30. 'Something' was broken around here long before that orange gibbon took office for the first time.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:10 AM
14 hrs ago

We just didn't want to admit it.

We still don't want to be completely honest about it.

Kali999

(182 posts)
28. Pattern here
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:07 AM
14 hrs ago

Don't forget Shapiros governor's mansion. So are they sure there was more than one. Hope they had ring cameras. In a normal gov. the fbi would be on it. But its compromised now.

Deminpenn

(16,822 posts)
111. No, the PA arsonist was just a run of
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:01 PM
5 hrs ago

the mill crazy guy. That he was able to break windows and start fires was due to a complete failure of the state police security detail assigned to protect the governor's mansion.

OldBaldy1701E

(8,042 posts)
33. Trying to scare the 'opposition', eh?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:18 AM
14 hrs ago

This is a blatant attempt to intimidate the DFL here in Minnesota.

Ask yourself 'why?'.

Because this says to me that they see this state as a real threat to their fascist plans. They also want to neutralize Tim Walz as fast as they can. Again, because they see him as a real threat.

Rhiannon12866

(236,244 posts)
35. Ali Velshi on MSNBC just said they'd be bringing more details on this shooting after the break
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:20 AM
14 hrs ago

Efilroft Sul

(4,041 posts)
38. Math enters the conversation. The state house is tied 67 Dems-67 Reps, the state senate is 34 Dems-33 Reps.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:24 AM
14 hrs ago

Minnesotans, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Glaisne

(577 posts)
40. MAGA wants a hot Civil War
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:34 AM
14 hrs ago

And we are a deeply divided country, division promoted and driven by the right. We are on a downward spiral towards violence and lawlessness.

raccoon

(31,881 posts)
41. I hope they catch the SOB's. And too bad that Minnesota.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:35 AM
14 hrs ago

Doesn’t have the death penalty.

Grim Chieftain

(225 posts)
42. So much for claiming to be "the party of law and order"
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:38 AM
14 hrs ago

It's open season on Democrats, with the attack on Gov. Shapiro in his residence, to the brutality against Sen. Padilla, now this.

mvd

(65,656 posts)
51. Unfortunately it may take that
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:56 AM
13 hrs ago

This tragedy is a direct result of the tone Trump has set with things like the Jan 6 pardons.

timms139

(301 posts)
50. Time to hold politicians
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:54 AM
13 hrs ago

responsible for pushing these kinds of things . Trump and his cabal has pushed this kind of thing and this might end up being the shot heard around the world.

BComplex

(9,453 posts)
47. It was only a matter of time. The republicans cheered on the guy who tried to kill Nancy Pelosi's husband.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:49 AM
14 hrs ago

This is fux nooz and the republican owned media in general. They talk about democrats as if we aren't over 1/2 of the country. As if we are demons, one and all.

Norrrm

(1,919 posts)
49. Assassins
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:53 AM
13 hrs ago

Last edited Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:59 AM - Edit history (1)

If not Trump directly executing his 'enemies', he will indirectly encourage his followers to do it.



krkaufman

(13,903 posts)
109. A caveat from Betty Bowers
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 06:02 PM
6 hrs ago

The Noem “quote” wasn’t a direct quote; it was paraphrasing what she’d said.

moonshinegnomie

(3,427 posts)
54. if you go to xitter they are already blaming democrats
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:04 AM
13 hrs ago

saying they were shot for voting against teh dems on some bill or another...

cbabe

(5,102 posts)
55. Governor Walz update
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:05 AM
13 hrs ago
https://www.rawstory.com/minnesota-lawmaker-shooting/

Minnesota lawmakers reportedly shot in their homes by cop impersonator

Tom Boggioni
June 14, 2025 10:32AM ET



UPDATE) Gov. Tim Waltz announced in a press conference that Melissa Hortman and her husband died from their wounds in what he called a "politically motivated assassination," and that Hoffman and his wife are at the hospital.

… more …

SKKY

(12,576 posts)
57. Here's the effed up thing about this, apart from the obvious...
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:08 AM
13 hrs ago

...if this guy turns out to be ultra right-wing, TFG will say, "He's not a Trump supporter! No Trump supporter would do that! This guy is mentally ill, and everyone is saying that!" And the press will probably let him off the hook with that.

Dangling0826

(36 posts)
58. The media will focus just on this and not the no kings protests
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:11 AM
13 hrs ago

Since our media can not focus on more then one thing at at time this is what they will devote all their attention on and not the protests. This is a horrible event I am not saying it is not but this looks like it made Trump's day.

GopherGal

(2,490 posts)
62. Apparently authorities have their vehicle
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:25 AM
13 hrs ago

and it had a "manifesto" which had a target list.

No word on how long said target list is/was.
Q's that come to mind:
1) How geographically far-reaching is the target list?
2) Is the target list politically diverse? Or just Democrats?

I believe there was a question about if security would be increased for today's protests. (The law enforcement authorities declined to discuss any specifics of planned security measures.)


ETA: "their/his" vehicle. Unclear if there's more than one person involved at this point.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,884 posts)
75. And the vehicle looks like a police vehicle - this has been carefully planned
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:34 PM
12 hrs ago
Two Brooklyn Park police officers went to Hortman's home, and saw what appeared to be a police vehicle parked in front of the house with its emergency lights on, and a police officer leaving the house, Bruley said. The vehicle "looked exactly like an SUV squad car," equipped with emergency lights, Bruley said. The individual was wearing a vest with a Taser, badge and other equipment, Bruley said. Bruley said the individual appeared to have knocked on the door of the home.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minnesota-lawmaker-shooting-melissa-hortman-john-hoffman-brooklyn-park/

toesonthenose

(187 posts)
65. Everyone needs to wait before assigning blame for this, thought we would have learned by now
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:35 AM
13 hrs ago

How many times have we assigned blamed to rethugs for violent acts when it turns out to not be the case. In this specific case, and I am not saying this is the cause or related to it, the Minnesota budget recently passed was controversial for the fact it removed MinnesotaCare health coverage for undocumented persons over the age of 18 starting Jan 1, 2026. Hortman being the Minn Speaker of the House had a part in this passing, and Hoffman recently sided with the Minn rethugs on a vote as well.
Regardless of who did this, and I hope they are caught soon and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, my sincerest condolences for the loss of life to the family and friends and pray for the quickest and fullest recovery of the others.

IronLionZion

(49,155 posts)
66. "by a gunman impersonating a police officer"
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:57 AM
12 hrs ago

Many of us predicted this sort of thing with ICE and other goons not identifying themselves as law enforcement. You have no idea who some dude with a gun is when he shows up at your house.

AmandaRuth

(3,179 posts)
67. one of the articles says the gunman exited the house
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:02 PM
12 hrs ago

and ran away. he got away? he just walked out of the house, and patrolmen saw him, saw that he was impersonating a cop, and let him run away??? WTF

JanMichael

(25,625 posts)
71. They claim shots were fired by real cops and fake cop.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:15 PM
12 hrs ago

And somehow fake cop gets away?

Wow

LilElf70

(904 posts)
70. This is serious news
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:09 PM
12 hrs ago

Why is this not all over the place, over and over again. I take it the oligarchy is in control of the news by now.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,444 posts)
72. Wait a few months if and after they are convicted
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:16 PM
12 hrs ago

They’ll get a full pardon from the chief felon

Response to katmondoo (Reply #81)

radical noodle

(10,233 posts)
88. Google search brings up Dr. Vance Boelter
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:50 PM
9 hrs ago

with the same head shot they're showing on TV. (Dr. as in Ed.D) Very nice, big house being shown from a helicopter.

catsudon

(882 posts)
94. well
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:36 PM
9 hrs ago

I hear 5 Minnesota democrats voted to repeal aid to illegal immigrants, two of them got hit. Now I'm seeing reports that the suspect had a stack of "No Kings" flyer in his car.

the fact that the suspect is a former Aid to tim walz is making this less and less like MAGA.

if that's true it's a shame the former aid select the wrong leader to shoot.

radical noodle

(10,233 posts)
97. He was twice appointed to the non-partisan
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 04:10 PM
8 hrs ago

Workforce Development Council, first in 2016 under Gov Mark Dayton, and again by Gov Tim Walz in 2019. His term expired in January, 2023. I've seen nothing about No Kings flyers but a lot about a hit list targeting other Democrats.

MustLoveBeagles

(13,338 posts)
100. Watching MSNBC
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 04:25 PM
8 hrs ago

Saw a photo of the inside of the suspects vehicle and it did have No Kings flyers on a seat. Why I don't know and don't want to speculate.

radical noodle

(10,233 posts)
98. Also, I don't know where you get your news,
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 04:17 PM
8 hrs ago

but you might want to get another source. Only one Democrat voted to repeal healthcare coverage to adult illegal immigrants. It was Melissa Hortman, but there's no reason at the moment to believe that was the reason for the assassination.

tonekat

(2,244 posts)
90. NYT update on Boelter's job
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:16 PM
9 hrs ago

"Vance Boelter, the man identified as the suspect in the attacks on two lawmakers, is listed as the director of security patrols on the website of a Minnesota-based security group. “We drive the same make and model of vehicles that many police departments use in the U.S.,” the website says. The police have said the suspect was impersonating a police officer and had what appeared to be a police vehicle."

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/14/us/minnesota-shootings

Well, that's where he got the car.

Response to MN2theMax (Original post)

ProudToronto

(2 posts)
106. The simplest problem here is
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 04:59 PM
7 hrs ago

that a lot of people in this thread made the website look very very bad.

This should be addressed. Visitors will not be joining or giving us any good recs for the wave of inaccurate claims.

AntiFascist

(13,326 posts)
112. This is exactly the same kind of Jan.6 violence being inspired by our Felon in Chief! n/t
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 08:24 PM
4 hrs ago
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