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&list=RD1cGs5EU8R9k&start_radio=1Yeah, I know it's the Russia loving Roger Waters, but it's still a great song.
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MarineCombatEngineer
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Deuxcents
(26,094 posts)1. How young we all were . Loved it then, love it now
erronis
(23,170 posts)2. An absolutely incredible piece. Great harmonics (natch) and lyrics. He's obviously brilliant, but
He's also unhinged. Perhaps they go together.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Waters#Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
Russian invasion of Ukraine
A week before the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Waters told an RT interviewer that rumours of Russia launching an invasion were "bullshit" and Russophobic propaganda.[183] After the invasion, Waters said that US President Joe Biden was "fuelling the fire in the Ukraine... that is a huge crime", and questioned why the United States was not encouraging Ukraine "to negotiate, obviating the need for this horrific, horrendous war". Responding to accusations that he was placing the responsibility to negotiate on the country that was invaded, Waters said that Russia was responding to provocations from NATO: "This war is basically about the action and reaction of NATO pushing right up to the Russian border - which they promised they wouldn't do."[184][185] In another interview, Waters said the attack on Ukraine was "probably the most provoked invasion ever" and he refused to "see Russia from the current Russo-phobic perspective".[186]
On 5 September 2022, Waters published an open letter to Olena Zelenska, the First Lady of Ukraine. He accused Ukrainian "extreme nationalists" of starting the war and made no mention of Russia's responsibility for the invasion.[187] He argued that the West should not provide Ukraine with weapons, and that Western governments were prolonging the war with their support. Waters urged her husband to end the war based on the Minsk agreements.[188] Waters's This Is Not a Drill concerts in Poland were cancelled following local outrage over his comments.[187]
According to a February 2023 article by Tristram Fane Saunders in The Daily Telegraph, Waters echoed Russian propaganda by saying "Nazis" are "in control of the government" of Ukraine. Waters further said that "the Ukraine is a deeply divided country. In fact, it's not really a country at all, it's only been there since Khrushchev, 1956. So it's a patchy sort of vague experiment". He once called Vladimir Putin a gangster but, after listening to a podcast linked to the anti-NATO hacking group Ghostwriter, Waters felt he "may leading his country to the benefit of all of the people of Russia".[189] Polly Samson and former bandmate David Gilmour responded by calling Waters a "Putin apologist".[189] On 8 February, Waters gave a speech to the United Nations Security Council at the Russian government's behest. He condemned the invasion of Ukraine as illegal, but said it was "not unprovoked" and also "condemned the provocateurs" and called for a ceasefire.[186][190] Waters was praised by Russia's deputy UN ambassador, Dmitry Polyanskiy.[186] Ukraine's UN ambassador, Sergiy Kyslytsya, denounced Waters as "another brick in the wall" of Russian "disinformation and propaganda".[186]
In February 2025, Waters made another speech to the United Nations Security Council, which was requested by Russia for the tenth anniversary of the signing of the Minsk II agreement.[191] Waters accused the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, of abandoning the Minsk agreements, in breach of his election promise, and accused the former UK prime minister Boris Johnson of acting for the US to stop peace talks.[192]
A week before the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Waters told an RT interviewer that rumours of Russia launching an invasion were "bullshit" and Russophobic propaganda.[183] After the invasion, Waters said that US President Joe Biden was "fuelling the fire in the Ukraine... that is a huge crime", and questioned why the United States was not encouraging Ukraine "to negotiate, obviating the need for this horrific, horrendous war". Responding to accusations that he was placing the responsibility to negotiate on the country that was invaded, Waters said that Russia was responding to provocations from NATO: "This war is basically about the action and reaction of NATO pushing right up to the Russian border - which they promised they wouldn't do."[184][185] In another interview, Waters said the attack on Ukraine was "probably the most provoked invasion ever" and he refused to "see Russia from the current Russo-phobic perspective".[186]
On 5 September 2022, Waters published an open letter to Olena Zelenska, the First Lady of Ukraine. He accused Ukrainian "extreme nationalists" of starting the war and made no mention of Russia's responsibility for the invasion.[187] He argued that the West should not provide Ukraine with weapons, and that Western governments were prolonging the war with their support. Waters urged her husband to end the war based on the Minsk agreements.[188] Waters's This Is Not a Drill concerts in Poland were cancelled following local outrage over his comments.[187]
According to a February 2023 article by Tristram Fane Saunders in The Daily Telegraph, Waters echoed Russian propaganda by saying "Nazis" are "in control of the government" of Ukraine. Waters further said that "the Ukraine is a deeply divided country. In fact, it's not really a country at all, it's only been there since Khrushchev, 1956. So it's a patchy sort of vague experiment". He once called Vladimir Putin a gangster but, after listening to a podcast linked to the anti-NATO hacking group Ghostwriter, Waters felt he "may leading his country to the benefit of all of the people of Russia".[189] Polly Samson and former bandmate David Gilmour responded by calling Waters a "Putin apologist".[189] On 8 February, Waters gave a speech to the United Nations Security Council at the Russian government's behest. He condemned the invasion of Ukraine as illegal, but said it was "not unprovoked" and also "condemned the provocateurs" and called for a ceasefire.[186][190] Waters was praised by Russia's deputy UN ambassador, Dmitry Polyanskiy.[186] Ukraine's UN ambassador, Sergiy Kyslytsya, denounced Waters as "another brick in the wall" of Russian "disinformation and propaganda".[186]
In February 2025, Waters made another speech to the United Nations Security Council, which was requested by Russia for the tenth anniversary of the signing of the Minsk II agreement.[191] Waters accused the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, of abandoning the Minsk agreements, in breach of his election promise, and accused the former UK prime minister Boris Johnson of acting for the US to stop peace talks.[192]
ABC123Easy
(148 posts)3. Don't ever let the singer/artist/etc..
Ever keep you from enjoying great music
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,884 posts)4. Agreed.
I don't let a musicians politics determine what music I like, case in point, I detest Ted Nugent's politics, but I do like some of his music:
ABC123Easy
(148 posts)5. Yes!
I like these guys too! Nice taste!
3Hotdogs
(15,157 posts)6. I saw this live at "The Wall" tour, Nassau Coliseum.
I still have the tour shirt, but it don't fit me no more.
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,884 posts)7. Must of been one hell of a concert.
I got to see Pink Floyd at the San Diego Colosseum in '71, what a hell of a concert, what I remember of it.
