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Fiendish Thingy

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11. Clearly, you are mistaken
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 11:00 AM
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Last edited Tue Jun 10, 2025, 10:06 AM - Edit history (2)

Or do you seriously think Newsom is ignorant of the law?

While he has protested the deployment of the NG, Newsom has said nothing about the section of the law you quoted- Trump federalized the CA NG, so the law you quoted does not appear to apply in this case.

Other laws may have been broken, most likely federal laws, but that remains to be seen.

Update-
So, since the OP was posted, Newsom has filed suit, alleging the law quoted in the OP was violated. Trump/Miller in the meantime have claimed the guard was deployed under a different law/authority.

At this point, although much has been alleged and asserted, nothing has been adjudicated in a court of law .

The following assertion was also made in the OP:

Basically that means they aren’t properly activated, and , if anything happens, they may be held personally responsible- as their normal governmental immunity is now in question.


That has not yet been adjudicated either, and so must be considered an opinion , and not a fact.

If Newsom’s suit prevails under the law quoted, and the guard stands down, that would be fantastic, but as we have come to expect, things are rarely that simple in the Trump era.

In the meantime, let’s do each other (and the truth) a favor, and make clear distinctions between facts and opinions.

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Will TACO taco or will he pardon all the troops, or will he double down? Get popcorn out! marble falls Monday #1
Double Down JustAnotherGen Tuesday #48
Gavin needs to communicate this directly to those soldiers. Javaman Monday #2
I recommend the protestors print that and hand them out to the National Guards. Doodley Monday #3
I recommend blunt-nosed paper airplanes HariSeldon Monday #14
Love it! FailureToCommunicate Monday #24
Oh dude, you have no idea jmowreader Tuesday #60
Yes! If only they could be dropped from upper story windows, like confetti parades. FailureToCommunicate Monday #23
I doubt this matters, since when have laws stopped Trump? dem4decades Monday #4
He is losing lots of court cases MadameButterfly Monday #33
I think the goal is to let the Guardspeople know--they don't have spooky3 Monday #5
So far, I've only seen LA police roughing up anyone. In fact, other than National Guard around detention center, not Silent Type Monday #6
and I doubt they WILL do much of anything. There's hardly any protest. No rioting. LymphocyteLover Tuesday #50
The convict doubled down even worst by calling up Marines, active duty troops... brush Monday #7
The Insurrection Act of 1807 applies here Kaleva Monday #18
What insurrection? LearnedHand Tuesday #52
Here Kaleva Tuesday #59
I'm aware of the Act, but there was no insurrection LearnedHand Tuesday #61
They used the Act to do what they did so it is applicable Kaleva Tuesday #62
A friend was an officer in the Army in Vietnam. He was ordered to go into Cambodia, armed with a camera and surfered Monday #8
If they are smart (Which I believe they are) HarryM Monday #9
Charge who? For what? reACTIONary Monday #10
Clearly, you are mistaken Fiendish Thingy Monday #11
Thank you, although if past is prologue on DU, this misinfo OP will rack up 100+ recs. Celerity Monday #13
A lie travels around the world... Fiendish Thingy Monday #15
as predicted, 122 recs and counting Celerity Monday #27
+1 Kaleva Monday #17
Why "clearly." The OP clearly infers Newsom's likely position; so what if it doesn't mention Newsom. You're ancianita Monday #19
It's not a strawman argument Fiendish Thingy Monday #22
It is you that are clearly mistaken. W_HAMILTON Monday #40
Indeed, that is the law quoted in Newsom's suit Fiendish Thingy Monday #41
You're saying a suit needed to be filed to .... what? intrepidity Monday #43
The suit *alleges* that particular law was violated Fiendish Thingy Monday #46
I'm confused Bluesaph Tuesday #47
The governor doesnt sign off DetroitLegalBeagle Tuesday #51
Was that done? Did they follow the procedure? Bluesaph Tuesday #58
So if not properly activated, they are held personally accountable? Would they then be held on Scalded Nun Monday #12
False. nt LexVegas Monday #16
Gavin seems to be growing a pair. He can throw down the gauntlet and have the CA Guard commander flashman13 Monday #20
Trump Mblaze Monday #21
Or something like that. intrepidity Monday #44
"My evidence refuting the OP's claim is that Newsom (and the AG, and other legal experts) have not made this claim.)..." ancianita Monday #25
I didn't "call out people's facts as opinions" Fiendish Thingy Monday #42
Grabber Blue Ozarks Monday #26
Before the Civil War, that was correct Polybius Monday #28
NYTimes had an article on it yesterday - TBF Monday #29
I have a paywall remover link Polybius Monday #30
The question is intrepidity Monday #45
In that case it looks like LBJ was trying to protect marchers - TBF Tuesday #54
This is not accurate! It's dangerous misinformation. Please edit/remove. LauraInLA Monday #31
Are you not aware that Trump federalized this shit specifically so he could do this? Because it sure sounds like it. Karasu Monday #32
Prosecute them all. Moostache Monday #34
arrest them under state law moonshinegnomie Monday #35
All nice but who's doing anything about it? Firestorm49 Monday #36
Does California need to build it's own military Fullduplexxx Monday #37
They already have one basically DetroitLegalBeagle Tuesday #57
Wikipedia is your friend... progressoid Monday #38
Guest on Nicolle Wallace said the same thing. Katinfl Monday #39
And will the remedy be remedied? William769 Tuesday #49
How does the fed have authority to send NG troops to Iraq? JohnnyRingo Tuesday #53
Title 10 DetroitLegalBeagle Tuesday #56
Thank You. JohnnyRingo Yesterday #63
K&R bdamomma Tuesday #55
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