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Jedi Guy

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5. By whom? Because the comparison is wildly inapt.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 10:47 PM
Sep 17

McCarthyism was the federal government persecuting and hounding people because of suspected ties to Communist organizations or exerting pressure, notably on Hollywood, to blacklist them.

That's a whole different ball of wax from private companies firing people for posting shitty hot takes about Kirk's murder. The fact that it's political speech, otherwise protected by the First Amendment, doesn't mean they can't fire the person who said it.

The First Amendment doesn't shield you from social consequences such as loss of employment with a private company, as a number of people who have engaged in racist outbursts (which is protected speech) in public have learned to their sorrow over the last few years. This really isn't any different, it's private companies choosing not to be associated with viewpoints they feel are controversial enough to impact their ability to make money.

What's going on now is absolutely not comparable to McCarthyism unless/until the federal government starts prosecuting and jailing people because of things they said about Kirk (or some other topic that's clearly protected speech).

People who thought it was cool to express joy over a guy being assassinated are finding out that society feels some type of way about that. Maybe it can be a learning experience for them, though I suspect it won't be judging by the reaction videos I've seen from the ones who got fired.

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I posted numerous TikTok comments about how the Kirk related job firings were McCarthyism 2.0. LonePirate Sep 17 #1
What an honor for him. I don't think anyone would want their name being attached to this ugliness. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 17 #2
The MAGA crew has a bloodlust right now which this country has not seen since the Klan's or Confederacy's heyday. LonePirate Sep 17 #4
MAGA likely does not see this as ugliness, karynnj Sep 18 #17
I would rather his name fade away dflprincess Sep 17 #3
By whom? Because the comparison is wildly inapt. Jedi Guy Sep 17 #5
The government threatened their fcc license Keepthesoulalive Sep 17 #6
Definitely troubling, but I still wouldn't consider a single instance like that to be McCarthyism. Jedi Guy Sep 17 #7
The government should not be threatening business Keepthesoulalive Sep 18 #12
It is not the only example. Funding to universities if they don't toe the line. Same for media corps. Same for Elon. boston bean Sep 18 #18
Colbert was probably fired because Paramount karynnj Sep 18 #19
They have said they are going to get the Justice Dept to investigate people. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 18 #9
They can say whatever they want, I guess. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #11
I would never celebrate his death, but Crunchy Frog Sep 18 #14
I haven't heard of anyone losing their job simply for quoting Kirk's words or criticizing his views. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #16
Did either Matthew Dowd or Jimmy Kimmel celebrate his death? karynnj Sep 18 #20
Having seen the clip of Dowd's words it absolutely came across as blaming Kirk for his own murder. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #21
Jimmy Kimmel was fired because of pressure from the government and government agencies, Crunchy Frog Sep 18 #13
We can agree to disagree, then. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #22
No, but people might say "Kimmeled". Bernardo de La Paz Sep 17 #8
Not if it's something that is negative. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 18 #10
It's not a negative. It's not his fault he got Kimmeled. Kirked is a negative. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #15
"To be Kirked is to be assassinated by internal civil war, red on red violence." Jedi Guy Sep 18 #23
Kirk killed by disaffected right-winger. He may have become socially liberal for love, but no disavowal of tRump. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #24
I've seen some mental gymnastics in the last week or so but that's impressive. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #25
I'm not clinging to anything. There is no definitive information yet. Sorry to disappoint you. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #26
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