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Jedi Guy

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21. Having seen the clip of Dowd's words it absolutely came across as blaming Kirk for his own murder.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:41 AM
Sep 18

Or saying he deserved it, had it coming, however you want to phrase it. I'm not shedding any tears for him. What he said was idiotic and MSNBC decided they didn't want to deal with the fallout, a decision they're fully within their rights to make. No one has a right to be a TV analyst. Dowd opened his mouth and stepped right in on live TV.

I'm not familiar with Kimmel's comments so I can't weigh in on that, but it's 1000% government overreach for the FCC to threaten ABC and demand Kimmel be taken off the air. I just don't think it rises to the level of McCarthyism, which is how I've seen it described elsewhere. To be frank, McCarthyism involves a level of forethought and organization that I just don't believe the Trump administration is capable of. They're a chaotic mess on a good day.

To be clear, no one "of note" (for want of a better term) on the left has openly celebrated Kirk's murder to the best of my knowledge. The people I'm referring to are randos who thought it was a good idea to post their celebrations on TikTok and are now finding out that employers might not want to be associated with such things. Too bad, so sad.

The right has worked overtime to characterize the reaction of "the left" as celebratory, which is wrong. "The left" isn't a monolith any more than "the right" is. It would, however, be accurate to say that some on the left have celebrated Kirk's murder. Human behavior being the outlandish freakshow it usually is, you can almost always find some people in a group engaging in damn near any behavior if you look hard enough. The issue here is no one had to look particularly hard since the smoothbrains blasted their glee onto the internet for all the world to see.

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I posted numerous TikTok comments about how the Kirk related job firings were McCarthyism 2.0. LonePirate Sep 17 #1
What an honor for him. I don't think anyone would want their name being attached to this ugliness. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 17 #2
The MAGA crew has a bloodlust right now which this country has not seen since the Klan's or Confederacy's heyday. LonePirate Sep 17 #4
MAGA likely does not see this as ugliness, karynnj Sep 18 #17
I would rather his name fade away dflprincess Sep 17 #3
By whom? Because the comparison is wildly inapt. Jedi Guy Sep 17 #5
The government threatened their fcc license Keepthesoulalive Sep 17 #6
Definitely troubling, but I still wouldn't consider a single instance like that to be McCarthyism. Jedi Guy Sep 17 #7
The government should not be threatening business Keepthesoulalive Sep 18 #12
It is not the only example. Funding to universities if they don't toe the line. Same for media corps. Same for Elon. boston bean Sep 18 #18
Colbert was probably fired because Paramount karynnj Sep 18 #19
They have said they are going to get the Justice Dept to investigate people. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 18 #9
They can say whatever they want, I guess. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #11
I would never celebrate his death, but Crunchy Frog Sep 18 #14
I haven't heard of anyone losing their job simply for quoting Kirk's words or criticizing his views. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #16
Did either Matthew Dowd or Jimmy Kimmel celebrate his death? karynnj Sep 18 #20
Having seen the clip of Dowd's words it absolutely came across as blaming Kirk for his own murder. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #21
Jimmy Kimmel was fired because of pressure from the government and government agencies, Crunchy Frog Sep 18 #13
We can agree to disagree, then. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #22
No, but people might say "Kimmeled". Bernardo de La Paz Sep 17 #8
Not if it's something that is negative. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 18 #10
It's not a negative. It's not his fault he got Kimmeled. Kirked is a negative. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #15
"To be Kirked is to be assassinated by internal civil war, red on red violence." Jedi Guy Sep 18 #23
Kirk killed by disaffected right-winger. He may have become socially liberal for love, but no disavowal of tRump. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #24
I've seen some mental gymnastics in the last week or so but that's impressive. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #25
I'm not clinging to anything. There is no definitive information yet. Sorry to disappoint you. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #26
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