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Jedi Guy

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25. I've seen some mental gymnastics in the last week or so but that's impressive.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 11:34 AM
Sep 18

Robinson's mother describes her son as having become more sympathetic to LGBTQ issues over the last few years. He was living with and dating a person who is trans and in the process of transitioning. Robinson was described by family members as expressing great dislike for Kirk during a recent family dinner and characterized Kirk as hateful and spreading hate.

Now, that doesn't sound to me like something a right-winger would say. Logic suggests that Robinson, though he came from a MAGA family, fell away from his family and his political views changed. This happens all the time, conservative families have children break liberal or the reverse. No doubt his romantic entanglement with his roommate played some role in that process.

But to suggest that he's a "socially liberal" MAGA openly dating a trans person is ludicrous, full stop. MAGA isn't socially liberal in any sense of the term, the two are incompatible. The roommate was also described by a family member as "hating Christians and conservatives" so it doesn't stand to reason that they would date Robinson if he was still conservative.

And putting the "disavowal of Trump" as a condition on it is equally absurd. People don't write lengthy manifestos just because their political views changed. Their political views just change.

I get the desire to believe that it was internecine violence on the right. It's distressing to accept the idea that someone on the left was capable of such coldblooded violence because of their political views because we're the good guys. But the reality is that people aren't inherently virtuous just because they hold certain views.

You're clinging to denial, to be quite frank.

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I posted numerous TikTok comments about how the Kirk related job firings were McCarthyism 2.0. LonePirate Sep 17 #1
What an honor for him. I don't think anyone would want their name being attached to this ugliness. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 17 #2
The MAGA crew has a bloodlust right now which this country has not seen since the Klan's or Confederacy's heyday. LonePirate Sep 17 #4
MAGA likely does not see this as ugliness, karynnj Sep 18 #17
I would rather his name fade away dflprincess Sep 17 #3
By whom? Because the comparison is wildly inapt. Jedi Guy Sep 17 #5
The government threatened their fcc license Keepthesoulalive Sep 17 #6
Definitely troubling, but I still wouldn't consider a single instance like that to be McCarthyism. Jedi Guy Sep 17 #7
The government should not be threatening business Keepthesoulalive Sep 18 #12
It is not the only example. Funding to universities if they don't toe the line. Same for media corps. Same for Elon. boston bean Sep 18 #18
Colbert was probably fired because Paramount karynnj Sep 18 #19
They have said they are going to get the Justice Dept to investigate people. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 18 #9
They can say whatever they want, I guess. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #11
I would never celebrate his death, but Crunchy Frog Sep 18 #14
I haven't heard of anyone losing their job simply for quoting Kirk's words or criticizing his views. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #16
Did either Matthew Dowd or Jimmy Kimmel celebrate his death? karynnj Sep 18 #20
Having seen the clip of Dowd's words it absolutely came across as blaming Kirk for his own murder. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #21
Jimmy Kimmel was fired because of pressure from the government and government agencies, Crunchy Frog Sep 18 #13
We can agree to disagree, then. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #22
No, but people might say "Kimmeled". Bernardo de La Paz Sep 17 #8
Not if it's something that is negative. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 18 #10
It's not a negative. It's not his fault he got Kimmeled. Kirked is a negative. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #15
"To be Kirked is to be assassinated by internal civil war, red on red violence." Jedi Guy Sep 18 #23
Kirk killed by disaffected right-winger. He may have become socially liberal for love, but no disavowal of tRump. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #24
I've seen some mental gymnastics in the last week or so but that's impressive. Jedi Guy Sep 18 #25
I'm not clinging to anything. There is no definitive information yet. Sorry to disappoint you. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 18 #26
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