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I've finally come around on secession [View all] Joe Nation Sep 23 OP

It's secession(the action of withdrawing formally from membership of a federation or body, especially a political state) Wiz Imp Sep 23 #1

Secession. nt Wednesdays Sep 23 #2

Thanks Joe Nation Sep 23 #5

Folks knew what you meant. Public correction is rude. Joinfortmill Sep 23 #54

I agree. MorbidButterflyTat Sep 23 #60

2+347⅙ Oeditpus Rex Sep 23 #70

I always take 2+347 and 1/6 as a complement. Irish_Dem Sep 23 #84

... Oeditpus Rex Sep 23 #93

There have always been turncoats and traitors to our Liberal Revolution. GreenWave Sep 23 #3

In a time snowybirdie Sep 23 #4

This TheProle Sep 23 #6

Right BidenRocks Sep 23 #50

Many, many counties do exactly this. Joe Nation Sep 23 #7

Wondering snowybirdie Sep 23 #13

Not many have done that, at least not peaceably... Wounded Bear Sep 23 #23

The people of Yugoslavia didn't want to split Buzz cook Sep 23 #53

Yugoslavia Cirsium Sep 23 #27

Of those, I only see one as being "peaceful" breakups, Czechoslovakia... Wounded Bear Sep 23 #56

Right Cirsium Sep 23 #86

Ireland was invaded and colonized markodochartaigh Sep 23 #78

I would like it too, but if you think down the road a bit ...it's a really bad idea PortTack Sep 23 #37

I totally get your point. but if that happens, can those of us in Redstatistan seek political asylum in Bluestatistan? raccoon Wednesday #97

You are optimistic the nation will come together bronxiteforever Sep 23 #32

I am already separated from most every member of my family by conflicting beliefs misanthrope Sep 23 #57

We'd lose 95% of the geographic area somsai Sep 23 #87

All food production, potable water, energy production, roads, railroads, mining, etc... pcdb Sep 23 #89

Oops. Missed that one. Kingofalldems Wednesday #99

I wasn't advocating for the suggested form of secession misanthrope Wednesday #98

My Main Concern Deep State Witch Sep 23 #8

Whole areas of blue states would become depopulated Kaleva Sep 23 #51

I find it more likely those people in rural areas misanthrope Sep 23 #59

With the possibility of individual states, red and blue, breaking up Kaleva Sep 23 #61

Personally...(OK, if Aliens landing and made me King or even a Surf) I'd change a little... chouchou Sep 23 #9

There is a petition going around in Canada right now, that is trying to have politicians both elected and Bev54 Sep 23 #25

Sounds like a good idea. While it's true that the media has sometimes exaggerated the truth (To their liking) chouchou Sep 23 #49

About 5% of the adult population watches Fox News Kaleva Sep 23 #43

Really?! That's all?!! Who's stats were those electric_blue68 Sep 23 #75

5 percent does feel rather low. Anyway, we know that quite a bit of political contests... chouchou Sep 23 #88

I say let the stupid morons get what they deserve without dragging the rest of us down Blue Owl Sep 23 #10

Big sticking point: national defense. Qutzupalotl Sep 23 #11

Who can afford them? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 23 #62

I was watching the Max documentary on Gwen Shamblin and had a similar thought Maru Kitteh Sep 23 #12

Secession as a remedy Cirsium Sep 23 #14

What happens to the sane people living in red states? Bayard Sep 23 #15

Thank you. I wouldn't want to be left behind. hamsterjill Sep 23 #21

I Always Think of This!... electric_blue68 Sep 23 #74

The problem is that "People who support this fascist dictatorship" are your neighbors maxsolomon Sep 23 #16

I worry becoming two different countries would just cause more problems LostOne4Ever Sep 23 #17

There are a lot of Christian fundamentalists, fascists, racists and dumbasses along the west coast states. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 23 #18

Secession will be difficult if the Constitution still cachukis Sep 23 #19

The constitution does not matter to the existing regime or the supreme court for that matter. Bev54 Sep 23 #29

That seems to be true, but there will have to be some cachukis Sep 23 #63

Secession is not going to happen. LudwigPastorius Sep 23 #20

but the federal government has been dismantled Tumbulu Sep 23 #79

The US Armed forces have not been dismantled, in fact they are now receiving increased funding. Celerity Wednesday #96

Intermixture Nasruddin Sep 23 #22

Yeah, not geographically divided like we were back in the 1850's... Wounded Bear Sep 23 #26

Look up "soft secession" and see what you think of that tactic Hekate Sep 23 #24

Yes sounds great and it's already happening Freddie Sep 23 #45

Terrible idea. highplainsdem Sep 23 #28

giving that kind of power to these fascist fucks is utterly ridiculous Skittles Sep 23 #76

Absolutely! H2O Man Sep 23 #91

In my fantasy world--Blue States would combine with Canada crimycarny Sep 23 #30

The biggest problem is geography lapfog_1 Sep 23 #31

This is why borders change and people migrate. Irish_Dem Sep 23 #34

Yes, and it took centuries to bring warfare to a close relayerbob Sep 23 #41

This is the goal. Irish_Dem Sep 23 #33

Exactly correct relayerbob Sep 23 #40

Putin is a true evil genius. His plan has been extremely successful. Irish_Dem Sep 23 #44

Well, China relayerbob Sep 23 #65

Yes I agree. Russia has turned into another pain in the ass ally for China. Irish_Dem Sep 23 #66

It's China's gas station. thought crime Sep 23 #82

I have no idea how it would work CanonRay Sep 23 #35

That won't fix anything relayerbob Sep 23 #36

This is Putin's wet dream AdamGG Sep 23 #38

No thank you. What we needed 170 years ago Ilsa Sep 23 #39

Only way is if we give up rule of law Tree Lady Sep 23 #42

This again? mcar Sep 23 #46

Thank you thank you! Traildogbob Sep 23 #71

Don't know what "the Josh Holly" means but I love the sentiment! mcar Sep 23 #81

Sorry Traildogbob Sep 23 #83

I get it! Well said mcar Sep 23 #85

This is not a serious idea and does not merit serious discussion. tritsofme Sep 23 #47

Certain aspects of "soft succession" should definitely be more rigorously explored in blue states. Magoo48 Sep 23 #48

That's always seemed like the silliest idea. Even if a state managed to steal tax dollars intended for the federal tritsofme Sep 23 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Magoo48 Sep 23 #80

we went to war over secession bigtree Sep 23 #52

That might be great for those of you in blue states arkielib Sep 23 #58

Sounds awesome! But MenloParque Sep 23 #64

Can we draw the new boundaries to include all blue cities? Patton French Sep 23 #67

The problem is PCB66 Sep 23 #68

According to The Washington Post, journalist Tim Russert invented these terms during his televised coverage of the 2000 Celerity Wednesday #95

No, no, fuck no. themaguffin Sep 23 #69

Nope Wifes husband Sep 23 #72

Pointless and Dangerous The Revolution Sep 23 #73

Nations and empires come and go LS0999 Sep 23 #77

The problem with that idea now is, we are MUCH more divided between urban vs. rural voters, Jack Valentino Sep 23 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Sep 23 #92

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