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cbabe

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14. Duty to disobey. Search for legal guidelines.But consequences may be harsh. I had
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 11:45 AM
Oct 2025

this conversation in the grocery store pharmacy waiting room, lined up for Covid booster.

Somehow stumbled on this topic. A Vietnam vet went nuts, roared at me. Must obey at all costs!

Latent ptsd?

I said: I don’t want to fight with you.

Let the conversation drop.



Military.com
https://www.military.com › daily-news › opinions › 2025 › 08 › 13 › 4-out-of-5-us-troops-surveyed-understand-duty-disobey-illegal-orders.html
4 Out of 5 US Troops Surveyed Understand the Duty to Disobey Illegal ...
Aug 13, 2025But when the respondents were asked to think about and comment on the duty to disobey unlawful orders before being asked if they would follow the order to bomb, the percentage who would obey the ...


FindLaw
https://www.findlaw.com › legalblogs › law-and-life › what-is-a-military-duty-to-disobey
What Is a Military 'Duty to Disobey'? - FindLaw
It's generally called a "duty to disobey," and is empowered by the Uniform Code of Military Justice. The UCMJ is more concerned about the need to obey orders, but specifies the conditions when military personnel may feel justified in not following them: If the order is "contrary to the constitution" or "the laws of the United States."


legalclarity.org
https://legalclarity.org › your-right-to-disobey-an-unlawful-order
Your Right to Disobey an Unlawful Order - LegalClarity
Jul 4, 2025The duty to obey in the armed forces is governed by the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). Articles 90, 91, and 92 require service

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Yes.................. Lovie777 Oct 2025 #1
They took an oath to the Constitution which requires them to refuse illegal orders... hlthe2b Oct 2025 #2
All the generals who cared about the constitution have been fired and replaced with magats. lark Oct 2025 #3
The admiral responsible for the region where Trump is ordering the murders of those on fishing boats sans evidence hlthe2b Oct 2025 #5
He didn't stop anything, he quit rather than support illegal orders. lark Oct 2025 #6
That was not the question (as to whether they can STOP Trump). The OP asked if they can refuse an order hlthe2b Oct 2025 #8
J.A.G. Officers Duncanpup Oct 2025 #4
Haven't most of them been fired too? lark Oct 2025 #7
They could if there was more than one with a backbone, otherwise they just get fired. nt doc03 Oct 2025 #9
The answer is yes, not no. Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2025 #10
Theoretically yes. Happy Hoosier Oct 2025 #11
The military is required to not obey illegal orders. ashredux Oct 2025 #12
I hope you are right Redleg Oct 2025 #13
Duty to disobey. Search for legal guidelines.But consequences may be harsh. I had cbabe Oct 2025 #14
Unlawful orders? pwb Oct 2025 #15
Yes but most of them won't. Dave Bowman Oct 2025 #16
The real question is... lame54 Oct 2025 #17
They will not. Maru Kitteh Oct 2025 #18
That's why we need officers that keep pace with the law and retired Generals like Milley as the situation unfolds ChicagoTeamster Oct 2025 #19
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