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crimycarny

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99. Where was the Dem messaging on this? Why didn't they point out the 40 B to Argentina would have paid for the subsidies?

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Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:27 PM

Nov 10

I don't get it, I truly don't. Why weren't the Democratic leaders on every channel, in front of every microphone, making the point that the cost of extending the ACA tax subsidies for another year was less than the $40 billion to bail out Argentina?

It seems this would have been a no-brainer. And they could have included the almost 300 million for the stupid ballroom, shown pictures of Trump's marble and gold toilet...why didn't they do this?

Instead, they argued about how devastating losing healthcare coverage would be (duh), then caved!!!!!!!!!!

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Traitor loves it. A sure sign it's a load of shit Arazi Nov 9 #1

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BULLSHIT Gavin....easy to criticize from your ivory tower.... democratsruletheday Nov 9 #3

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I think he meant cowards. nt Bobstandard Nov 9 #36

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He's right. You're pro caving. Bobstandard Nov 9 #35

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Troll. Bobstandard Nov 10 #82

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Pritzker is also against it tinrobot Nov 9 #46

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.Pritzker posted pretty much the same thing LOL. nt yaesu Nov 9 #54

J.B? that you? R0ckyRac00n Nov 9 #55

We knew the rethigs were ruthless. Envirogal Nov 9 #60

Pathetic is not a strong enough word n/t FHRRK Nov 9 #63

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Let me criticize from the ground floor, then. Gore1FL Nov 10 #83

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per MSNBC: Schumer will not vote for the shutdown deal Celerity Nov 9 #25

Um that's because he's sure he has 10 other cowardly Democrats in the senate choie Nov 9 #32

You mean 10 who will vote FOR the bullshit deal, correct? (you said vote against it) Celerity Nov 9 #33

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Suits me. Paladin Nov 10 #73

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Yes, they were. hamsterjill Nov 9 #34

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Right on Governor Newsom. flashman13 Nov 9 #48

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Newsom speaks for me I just wish Dem Senators did too. nt yaesu Nov 9 #53

Senate Dems are a bunch of idiots. spudspud Nov 9 #56

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It's even worse than I thought then! spudspud Nov 10 #86

Vote is 56-40. James48 Nov 9 #57

Cornyn is the only one left, he is making his way to the Senate floor and will vote Yea Celerity Nov 9 #64

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Republicans now have a chance to make the Democrats look bad before the midterms... AntiFascist Nov 9 #62

And the Repukes will point to this vote FHRRK Nov 10 #71

We need to be on top of messaging & make sure this is all Republicans fault SunImp Nov 10 #113

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Way to go! ProBlue24 Nov 9 #67

Newsom is the big winner here. Only a governor will win a Dem primary. nt Blasphemer Nov 10 #69

Yet again, Democrats snatch our precious darling defeat from the merciless jaws of victory just in time! 0rganism Nov 10 #72

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Thank you. Celerity Nov 10 #90

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I'm there now Bettie Nov 10 #76

Traitors had better...... flying-skeleton Nov 10 #78

Gee, I don't see Schumer's name on there. valleyrogue Nov 10 #80

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A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Ping Tung Nov 10 #85

K&R spanone Nov 10 #87

Thank you. Celerity Nov 10 #91

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Unilateral disarmament and preemptive surrender is how you motivate the base. dalton99a Nov 10 #94

Thank you Gov. for fighting the good fight JCMach1 Nov 10 #96

Yup, some have not learned lesson about surrendering easily. republianmushroom Nov 10 #97

Where was the Dem messaging on this? Why didn't they point out the 40 B to Argentina would have paid for the subsidies? crimycarny Nov 10 #99

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You apparently don't understand the meaning. BumRushDaShow Nov 10 #103

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The only victory in this surrender: they waited until after Hassler Nov 10 #110

And we wonder why more Democrats don't come out and vote. sellitman Nov 10 #111

I wish the phrase "bend the knee" would disappear mr715 Nov 10 #112