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20. Agree. He feared being sent back to Afghanistan -- where he would certainly have

Thu Nov 27, 2025, 08:10 PM

Nov 2025

been killed. As immigration was ratcheted up, it's possible that he grew more desperate and made a horrible decision in a location near the White House. There's a lot about this incident that doesn't make total sense, though. It's tragic all the way around, caused by one selfish, lying, old man.

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Something just feels.. off...about the shooting of the National Guardsmen in DC [View all] Jilly_in_VA Nov 2025 OP

Did I read correctly that he drove across the country? RandySF Nov 2025 #1

To get to the other side. SCantiGOP Nov 2025 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author Sector 001 Nov 2025 #23

duh duh DUNH! LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #71

Paging - Lee Harvey Oswald... n/t AdamGG Nov 2025 #107

It's strangely purposeful mainer Nov 2025 #83

Like the man who left San Francisco to shoot up the NFL in Manhattan. Kid Berwyn Nov 2025 #108

The football player earlier this year drove to New York, BidenRocks Nov 2025 #116

A form of wag the dog. I trust nothing these days. NewHendoLib Nov 2025 #2

It's coming out - he's a CIA operative TBF Nov 2025 #3

CIA operative, shot right after the murder. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #30

Didn't die immediately. Sloppy work. eppur_se_muova Nov 2025 #89

Where's Jack Ruby when you need him? Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #106

Anything to detract from thankfulness ... Upjumpdadebil Nov 2025 #97

He could have been egged on by a Trump operative on the internet. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Nov 2025 #4

And the teleprompter chipped and sent debris flying!!! WarGamer Nov 2025 #5

This still has me puzzled. markodochartaigh Nov 2025 #9

Occam's Razor. WarGamer Nov 2025 #14

You sure try hard. ZZenith Nov 2025 #34

Maybe. markodochartaigh Nov 2025 #51

Ears are very vascular. returnee Nov 2025 #79

Not a bullet... Shrapnel or self mutilation yes, bullet no. Shipwack Nov 2025 #94

I agree in general, but... Shipwack Nov 2025 #93

One other thing. markodochartaigh Nov 2025 #95

Whoa.... Shipwack Nov 2025 #120

He must truly be the MAGAt Savior! 😮 MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2025 #10

Don't forget the perfect MRI.. the best any doctor has seen.... ever... William Gustafson Nov 2025 #60

Maybe it was 100% bad BonnieJW Nov 2025 #74

It really ForgedCrank Nov 2025 #53

Nationwide martial law is a physical impossibility Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #6

Well GCG Nov 2025 #81

Do you really think it is? Jilly_in_VA Nov 2025 #7

I think that a false flag operation markodochartaigh Nov 2025 #8

Think it is exactly how it appears. Someone who entered 4 years ago, went nuts and shot innocent people. We don't know Silent Type Nov 2025 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Nov 2025 #41

No matter what, Trump needlessly put the nat. guard in harms way. Emile Nov 2025 #12

He was also a CIA asset and he had a fear of being deported to Afganistan. ... marble falls Nov 2025 #13

Agree. He feared being sent back to Afghanistan -- where he would certainly have allegorical oracle Nov 2025 #20

Then he went after the wrong targets then. hadEnuf Nov 2025 #25

The thought that the country he worked for and recieved promises from is now sending him without any process ... marble falls Nov 2025 #35

A lot of things don't really seem to add up to me either. marble falls Nov 2025 #32

Agreed popsdenver Nov 2025 #76

Perhaps his target was Trump Bluestocking Nov 2025 #77

Manchurian Candidate? BattleRow Nov 2025 #100

I think we'll find a link with the renewed vetting Afghans were going to face Arazi Nov 2025 #15

Don't Charlie Kirk this. Buzz cook Nov 2025 #16

He shoutec alahuakbar so he was an Islamic extremist JI7 Nov 2025 #18

Islamic extremists despise secular right wingers Kaleva Nov 2025 #33

That expression is the equvilent of a Christian calling on G*D for strength. Would anyone doing that make them ... marble falls Nov 2025 #37

Are they murdering someone as they are saying it? MichMan Nov 2025 #42

If they say it while killing people yes they are extremists JI7 Nov 2025 #44

Please. Are you ex military? Are military chaplins extremeists? Is praying for strength before a battle ... marble falls Nov 2025 #49

This wasn't some battle. The guy drove a long way to go there and shot people that weren't a threat to him. JI7 Nov 2025 #50

It most certainly is a battle. What TACO is causing to happen to him and his, he can do to you and me. I'm not ... marble falls Nov 2025 #78

You are making excuses for a killer. JI7 Nov 2025 #112

Where have you seen that reported? Nt spooky3 Nov 2025 #46

Good question MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2025 #47

Wait, Kirk's shooter *wasn't* a right winger? Orrex Nov 2025 #67

The available evidence says the Kirk shooter was motivated by LGBTQ issues EdmondDantes_ Nov 2025 #85

Yes he was. He's a Groyper. underpants Nov 2025 #101

There's no public evidence to that effect EdmondDantes_ Nov 2025 #115

Many days later underpants Dec 2025 #123

Yes he was. He's a Groyper. underpants Nov 2025 #103

That was my understanding. In fact... Orrex Nov 2025 #114

Please cite evidence for the claim EdmondDantes_ Nov 2025 #117

You weren't wrong. Robinson was a Groyper. underpants Nov 2025 #104

I think *rump is ramping up the pressure everywhere he can in hopes that something blows and he can clamp down more. NBachers Nov 2025 #17

Did he have family that was also given asylum? mb40 Nov 2025 #19

Good questions to ask before some here would hang him without trial. marble falls Nov 2025 #39

"Paranoia strikes deep" SCantiGOP Nov 2025 #21

Agent provocateur? Blumancru Nov 2025 #24

He was CIA? Botany Nov 2025 #26

If so, he couldn't have come up with a dumber pretext BeyondGeography Nov 2025 #27

Once you've seen The Manchurian Candidate... 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2025 #28

The original of course Sequoia Nov 2025 #118

Absolutely! 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2025 #119

The somehow is it ticked off all the boxes bucolic_frolic Nov 2025 #29

Everything is a conspiracy iemanja Nov 2025 #31

Worse. A waste of time and pure distraction, what magicians call "misdirection". marble falls Nov 2025 #40

While there may be perfectly logical rational explanations for everything that we've witnessed with Trump Mad_Machine76 Nov 2025 #55

This is America iemanja Nov 2025 #56

This is not simply about guns though Mad_Machine76 Nov 2025 #57

Trump is an opportunist iemanja Nov 2025 #58

No Mad_Machine76 Nov 2025 #59

When anything happens in the world iemanja Nov 2025 #65

Indiana National Guard to DC -- soon, 800 I think Captain Zero Nov 2025 #61

Our governor's lips Mad_Machine76 Dec 2025 #122

People who protect pedophiles don't get thr benefit of the doubt for anything uponit7771 Nov 2025 #64

Agreed. If this was a "false flag" operation, why the hell would they do it the day before the Thanksgiving weekend - Midwestern Democrat Nov 2025 #105

Like moths to a flame JoseBalow Nov 2025 #36

I'm waiting patiently for more info on this. Aussie105 Nov 2025 #38

Since when did he need an excuse? MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2025 #48

There is clearly no reason to griloco Nov 2025 #43

Maybe it is a distraction avebury Nov 2025 #45

Maybe we ForgedCrank Nov 2025 #52

Not a coincidence that he's CIA affiliated .... Bread and Circuses Nov 2025 #54

occurred right after federal judge said Guard had to leave DC - but days before her order took effect. SaydiTom Nov 2025 #62

You have a healthy mis trust of a convict protector of pedophiles who got sued for running a fake college uponit7771 Nov 2025 #63

We live in the United States Boo1 Nov 2025 #66

I'm no fan of conspiracy theories DFW Nov 2025 #68

How quickly RW "media" declared two dead and many gobbled that up, including here. GreenWave Nov 2025 #69

Plus the shooter was from out of state Richluu Nov 2025 #70

From the movie Sneakers: "You won't know who to trust" mdbl Nov 2025 #72

Here's hoping we learn the whole story on this tragic incident. Paladin Nov 2025 #73

I'm waiting for the news he mysteriously died in custody mainer Nov 2025 #75

Without Question It is a False Flag Condescenturion Nov 2025 #80

Let's not forget the withdrawal was Trump's deal. flashman13 Nov 2025 #82

How do we know there was ever a shooting at all? MichMan Nov 2025 #84

Uh, one of them DIED Jilly_in_VA Nov 2025 #88

Not even a good attempt there. Kingofalldems Nov 2025 #98

If the Trump assassination was staged like many say, why not? MichMan Nov 2025 #99

It doesn't seem off to me. Makes perfect sense that an Afghan became disillusioned with the US military and intelligence Martin68 Nov 2025 #86

Been watching this channel since the Kirk assignation onlyadream Nov 2025 #87

I know right?! BadGimp Nov 2025 #90

Gotta wonder AncientOfDays Nov 2025 #91

Staged. czarjak Nov 2025 #92

He drove all the way accross the US! BadGimp Nov 2025 #96

Was there a bigger target for this guy? The Madcap Nov 2025 #102

In 2023, 136 police officers were killed in the line of duty in the US AdamGG Nov 2025 #109

I've had my tin foil hat on this year. A number of "incidents" have made me go Hmmmmm..... tulipsandroses Nov 2025 #110

Malcolm Nance has thoughts. soldierant Nov 2025 #111

Skip the CT orangecrush Nov 2025 #113

EVERY DAY of Trump 2.0 stinks of dead fish.... Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #121