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48. Then the counter story should be out by now...

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Tue Dec 23, 2025, 03:36 PM

Dec 2025

Because that's how fast that happened

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One of the Epstein documents is a victim's statement that when she was 13 and pregnant, Trump raped her [View all] Mr.WeRP Dec 2025 OP

I am betting this is the girl that Gloria Allred was representing who became too terrified/intimidated to continue hlthe2b Dec 2025 #1

Where are the pro-lifers now? This is what Trump has been projecting all along Mr.WeRP Dec 2025 #2

Not a chance. Wiz Imp Dec 2025 #78

This sounds a little to Enquirer to me. Pisces Dec 2025 #3

WTF? It's a victim statement given directly to the FBI Mr.WeRP Dec 2025 #5

The statute of limitations is five years... appmanga Dec 2025 #12

I think you should check again, gab13by13 Dec 2025 #18

I think you should re-read what I wrote... appmanga Dec 2025 #62

You are assuming the victim is still alive and willing to cross Trump who controls the FBI/DoJ Mr.WeRP Dec 2025 #20

sure...they could come forward... Trueblue Texan Dec 2025 #32

We only have Pam Bondi's word for that. Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #16

The subsequent investigation proving the claims were politically motivated would be themselves part of the so-called... Hugin Dec 2025 #65

Are you saying that Trump is not capable of this kind of behavior? Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #8

It is very unlikely that Trump would intentionally Bluetus Dec 2025 #14

You don't Trump then or you are dishonest. Mr.WeRP Dec 2025 #21

Articles states he WATCHED the murder. Entirely consistent with a mob boss. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #24

I dont believe Trump would do that. Bluetus Dec 2025 #35

Sometimes things happen cannabis_flower Dec 2025 #53

It could have happened that way Bluetus Dec 2025 #86

By lady, are you referring to the 13 year old? Raven123 Dec 2025 #55

Don't put wordds in my mouth. Bluetus Dec 2025 #88

You said it yourself in the title of your post "I don't believe Trump..." Raven123 Dec 2025 #101

Again, don't put words in my mouth, please. Bluetus Dec 2025 #103

"I don't believe Trump would do that" equals "I don't believe the story" Raven123 Dec 2025 #108

Yeah, he makes other people take the blame for HIS CRIMES MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2025 #60

I ask for the same kind of evidence that we would expect if Clinton, Obama or anyone else Bluetus Dec 2025 #90

I get your reservations but never say never paleotn Dec 2025 #75

Yes, it is possible. Very out of character. Bluetus Dec 2025 #97

Totally possible. But also possible that they're trying to Dan Rather the whole story. Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #102

Absolutely. I wouldn't put anything beyond those jackasses. paleotn Dec 2025 #104

I'm really afraid of this. If they are successful, that will dilute this whole case. Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #105

But he pretended to be someone else to talk about himself MadameButterfly Dec 2025 #77

Trump is a penny pinching tyrant Johonny Dec 2025 #47

He gets a prurient thrill from death and harm. yellow dahlia Dec 2025 #76

Piggy is not a "mob boss" MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2025 #59

I have often said - he is capable of anything. yellow dahlia Dec 2025 #87

I don't put anything past Trump, but trying to imagine him at the waters edge while an infant was drowned Pisces Dec 2025 #29

I believe this happened on a yacht Bayard Dec 2025 #70

This sounds like typical-trump to me. Torchlight Dec 2025 #17

Yes, an Enquirer kind of guy Lulu KC Dec 2025 #28

Not believing victims aka victim blaming is so acceptable in our society... littlemissmartypants Dec 2025 #40

It's not victim blaming. If I were presented with a victim saying this, I would support Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #45

Would you vote to convict if this was the only evidence presented? Kaleva Dec 2025 #72

It wouldn't be the "only evidence presented" so to me... littlemissmartypants Dec 2025 #74

There's other evidence you have that supports the claim? Kaleva Dec 2025 #80

The woman or the child? littlemissmartypants Dec 2025 #84

Like How They Printed That John Edwards Had A Baby With... ColoringFool Dec 2025 #54

This is exactly the attitude Trump is counting on... regnaD kciN Dec 2025 #107

Nailed it. MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2025 #113

I had the same reaction Betty Boom Dec 2025 #112

Is this why he hates Mexicans? kentuck Dec 2025 #4

no, that's because he's a stone cold racist eShirl Dec 2025 #6

Psychopaths like him don't care. ... littlemissmartypants Dec 2025 #33

Yes. I hear the sadism in his voice constantly. yellow dahlia Dec 2025 #89

Horrifying story but jmbar2 Dec 2025 #7

That's how this reads to me. I think you're right. Somewhere there'll be proof he was somewhere else Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #11

That's utter nonsense. The case ID on the document references a real case Mr.WeRP Dec 2025 #15

I hope you're right. But I guarantee that somewhere in these stories, and probably in the most Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #19

That's dangerous though... lame54 Dec 2025 #41

You're right, it is, but tell that to Dan Rather. And that story was true. Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #46

Then the counter story should be out by now... lame54 Dec 2025 #48

We know their techniques, so of course we should watch out for the traps. yellow dahlia Dec 2025 #94

Just because something is unspeakably horrible, doesn't mean TSF is incapable. Trueblue Texan Dec 2025 #34

It's a good time to be cautious, rather than getting played. yellow dahlia Dec 2025 #93

It's a dated document with a real case ID. Mr.WeRP Dec 2025 #13

Except that he loves to brag and as a psychopath sees little wrong in hurting others and breaking the law. littlemissmartypants Dec 2025 #36

This corrupt "administration" is too stupid for that MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2025 #64

I have my antennae up as well, regarding flooding the zone with bogus info yellow dahlia Dec 2025 #91

WTAF??? Disaffected Dec 2025 #9

Taken as a whole this doesn't seem plausible EdmondDantes_ Dec 2025 #27

The baby murder with onlookers has Satanic panic echoes. Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #30

OMG. The media hasn't covered it? Trueblue Texan Dec 2025 #37

Not believing victims aka victim blaming is so acceptable in our society... littlemissmartypants Dec 2025 #39

Given we know a small number of rape claims are false, a small number should be disbelieved EdmondDantes_ Dec 2025 #57

Given that recent scholarly scientific research on propaganda reveals that... littlemissmartypants Dec 2025 #68

And I'm sure you think you're immune to that EdmondDantes_ Dec 2025 #95

It's infuriating MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2025 #67

It is. Unfortunately, I don't think it would make a difference, MBT. ... littlemissmartypants Dec 2025 #71

Again, I'll repeat: if there's a victim, I'll believe her. However, so far there's only Pam Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #99

Yes of course some of the victims became pregnant. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #10

Who among us hasn't raped a woman gab13by13 Dec 2025 #23

And he carefully planned it ahead of time. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #42

Another rarely mentioned factor in both the Carroll and Daniels cases is that they were practiced... Hugin Dec 2025 #44

Of course this was not the first rape. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #56

"BoYs WiLl Be BoYs!" regnaD kciN Dec 2025 #49

I don't doubt this for a minute, he would have got rid of the girl too. This reads false to me. If this young Pisces Dec 2025 #31

who says she IS around? nt Trueblue Texan Dec 2025 #38

Seriously! yellow dahlia Dec 2025 #96

There was another girl who Krasnov raped named Maria, gab13by13 Dec 2025 #22

This...when you look into it was withdrawn with major credibility issues Melon Dec 2025 #25

Can you tell us more about that? Who withdrew it? And who said it has credibility issues? Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #50

I'm willing to believe every awful thing they said he did. They spread so much slander about Biden. Walleye Dec 2025 #26

I know he has killed many children through policy, USAID, snap cuts, healthcare etc mahina Dec 2025 #43

I do think Trump is capable of this. I don't think anything is too brutal for him to do. Walleye Dec 2025 #61

Yes. Also, diluting a true, compelling simple and objectively factual message mahina Dec 2025 #79

They discredited the entire Russia story because karynnj Dec 2025 #106

Good example! mahina Dec 2025 #110

The post on Reddit has been removed PatSeg Dec 2025 #51

From what I can gather, that's because the source was not included on the reddit post Wiz Imp Dec 2025 #81

Yes, I was able to read it on the DOJ website PatSeg Dec 2025 #83

It didn't quite meet the requirements of the law subreddit Mr.WeRP Dec 2025 #92

This Goes A Long Way To Explain DJT's Insistence That .... ColoringFool Dec 2025 #52

Thank you for finding that! Faux pas Dec 2025 #58

The post was removed by the moderator. n/t demmiblue Dec 2025 #63

See Post #81 Wiz Imp Dec 2025 #82

I've been watching Meidas to get info about Epstein allegations - TBF Dec 2025 #66

Yes - capable of anything. yellow dahlia Dec 2025 #98

Yes. I would agree with that. It could be true. And it could not. Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #100

Bondi hasn't proven herself to be credible, that's for sure! nt TBF Dec 2025 #111

Probably one of many relayerbob Dec 2025 #69

If the girl was 13 and pregnant, Bayard Dec 2025 #73

I am seriously shocked so many here would dismiss this Mr.WeRP Dec 2025 #109

Damn cruel psychotic waste of oxygen. 😡 Dave Bowman Dec 2025 #85