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1WorldHope

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52. No one person will meet 100% of any persons requirements.

Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:57 PM

16 hrs ago

I still think cheating has had a lot more to do with us losing than a purity test. I'm going to stop at that because I know I will never win this argument with you MineralMan. I still think if Bernie had been allowed to run he would have won. If you talk to young people, (40 something) and this is their world now, neither D's or R's have taken on the real problems, like climate change, wealth inequality, healthcare ... I disagree with sitting out the vote and people staying home is absolutely wrong. That and cheating is how the plump bump won. I think we are seeing a sea change, kids don't trust the status quo. 🫣

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I'm So Disappointed with Schumer and Jeffries. They Don't Agree with Me 100%. [View all] MineralMan 17 hrs ago OP

Well played. Permanut 17 hrs ago #1

Absolutely! FalloutShelter 17 hrs ago #14

What are we playing? Own the libs? Ilikepurple 13 hrs ago #111

Please define critical discussion mcar 11 hrs ago #123

It's not this response. I imagined something closer to the discussion you and Cirsium had below. Ilikepurple 7 hrs ago #168

Post removed Post removed 9 hrs ago #164

I agree LetMyPeopleVote 4 hrs ago #180

abolish ICE is not gonna happen and it is a bad look. there are some things I would like to see happen msongs 17 hrs ago #2

OK, did Shumer and Jeffries meet that minimum? Escurumbele 16 hrs ago #50

Seems to me they have mcar 11 hrs ago #124

Mahalo for Link, mcar... Turns out this is my fave Cha 6 hrs ago #177

Already bending on masks. we can do it 9 hrs ago #163

Nope mcar 9 hrs ago #166

Also stop the roving kidnap patrols sboatcar 15 hrs ago #71

Well done. sheshe2 17 hrs ago #3

They're hiding under the couch hoping GOP unpopularity will propel them to majority. Won't work. 617Blue 17 hrs ago #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Gore1FL 17 hrs ago #12

People keep forgetting we have a MINORITY STATUS in Congress Just_Vote_Dem 17 hrs ago #5

You're right. If we don't understand that, MineralMan 17 hrs ago #7

The solution is not to roll over hoping for a belly scratch.. NT Gore1FL 17 hrs ago #15

Sorry that doesn't hold water LearnedHand 11 hrs ago #136

Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 17 hrs ago #6

Great Idea. Now...How do you do that in reality? MineralMan 17 hrs ago #8

Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 17 hrs ago #9

You already said that. It's a great idea. MineralMan 17 hrs ago #11

Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 17 hrs ago #13

So you got nothing. beaglelover 17 hrs ago #20

Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 17 hrs ago #22

In two words. MineralMan 17 hrs ago #24

Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 17 hrs ago #26

I want a pony. tritsofme 16 hrs ago #64

Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 15 hrs ago #66

I want TWO ponies! tritsofme 15 hrs ago #84

Abolish ICE Prairie Gates 14 hrs ago #94

huh? Cirsium 12 hrs ago #117

Imagine thinking antifascism is wanting a pony! Prairie Gates 11 hrs ago #139

When I started hearing that "pony" nonsense Cirsium 11 hrs ago #142

The same supposed realists now asking how many mask wearing fascists should be allowed Prairie Gates 11 hrs ago #145

Naming reality clearly Cirsium 11 hrs ago #152

Not really. Just "pull the plug" basically. FoxNewsSucks 16 hrs ago #41

Well, then they can scream that Schumer/Jeffries "caved" mcar 11 hrs ago #126

My idea? JustAnotherGen 17 hrs ago #29

Use the Senate rules to stop ICE funding. Gore1FL 17 hrs ago #19

Both of my Senators would vote that way. MineralMan 17 hrs ago #23

No help from my Senators, unfortunately calguy 15 hrs ago #90

So using your voice to influence legislators is okay or not? Ilikepurple 13 hrs ago #103

Neither would. Josh Hawley and Eric Schmitt are into white nationalism. Gore1FL 11 hrs ago #149

+1 GOP poll numbers make them vulnerable leftstreet 17 hrs ago #25

I'm going beyond that JustAnotherGen 17 hrs ago #30

That's the bottom line Prairie Gates 16 hrs ago #38

ICE has already been funded, it will continue to operate during a shutdown, and... W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #33

probably, but instead of rolling belly up, Dems should MAKE tRump do that. FoxNewsSucks 16 hrs ago #43

Who is "rolling belly up?" nt mcar 11 hrs ago #128

We do it when we have a trifect JustAnotherGen 16 hrs ago #56

That's a nice idea, but a Sinema/Manchin/Fetterman/LIEbermann du jour FoxNewsSucks 9 hrs ago #161

So, They have money now and if we try to stop them from getting more... Gore1FL 13 hrs ago #100

Vote against funding ICE for starters iemanja 16 hrs ago #63

It starts with advocacy Cirsium 15 hrs ago #77

In reality, the next president can just issue intheflow 14 hrs ago #91

Missed the point, again, I see. Gore1FL 17 hrs ago #10

No, I did not. I missed nothing. MineralMan 17 hrs ago #18

So the intention is to gaslight? Gore1FL 13 hrs ago #98

OK Cirsium 12 hrs ago #118

Is constantly bashing Schumer/Jeffries, mcar 11 hrs ago #129

"Bashing" vs accountability Cirsium 11 hrs ago #132

He did not miss the point. murielm99 15 hrs ago #79

I didn't know the point of DU was to cower in the corner. Gore1FL 13 hrs ago #101

I'm a purist when it comes to fascist gangs kidnapping and murdering people in the street Prairie Gates 11 hrs ago #141

If I ignored your bashing, murielm99 7 hrs ago #170

WTF? Gore1FL 6 hrs ago #173

Sooooo when elected Dems want to grease the skids for FoxNewsSucks 9 hrs ago #162

Don't try to put words in my mouth murielm99 7 hrs ago #171

See the question marks? that's NOT FoxNewsSucks 6 hrs ago #174

I'm also sick of the "bashing" BS. It feels facile and counterproductive. Ilikepurple 5 hrs ago #178

Well said! beaglelover 17 hrs ago #16

ICE hasn't been around that long, it was a fascist invention just like the debt ceiling, we can be the go along party or yaesu 17 hrs ago #17

What sort of fighting are you talking about? MineralMan 17 hrs ago #21

I would argue that there are "turning points" in between elections Ilikepurple 12 hrs ago #115

This point would have been arguable decades ago FHRRK 17 hrs ago #27

+1 leftstreet 15 hrs ago #78

It's very frustrating. Quiet Em 17 hrs ago #28

Dividing the Democratic Party is key. Targeting customized anti-Democratic attacks to fit. betsuni 16 hrs ago #36

Bingo! mcar 11 hrs ago #130

This thread MorbidButterflyTat 7 hrs ago #172

Nonsense Cirsium 17 hrs ago #31

"People can disagree with leadership and still be loyal Democrats." W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #34

I strongly question that Cirsium 16 hrs ago #40

As a progressive myself, i am cleaning up my own house here. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #44

Out of line Cirsium 15 hrs ago #76

I'm not sure what cleaning house means other than resolving to silence progressive voices Ilikepurple 12 hrs ago #119

And again, everyone here did vote for those people. Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #148

Why do you question that? MineralMan 16 hrs ago #46

Of course Cirsium 15 hrs ago #80

"No single raindrop thinks it's responsible for the flood." W_HAMILTON 13 hrs ago #104

Democrat Party? MineralMan 13 hrs ago #97

Hardly Cirsium 13 hrs ago #107

Agree--I'm so tired of being accused of not being a loyal Democrat if I disagree with leadership on occasion crimycarny 16 hrs ago #54

Not having majorities in the House and Senate 3825-87867 14 hrs ago #93

FYI SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #112

You're telling Mineral Man to stop with the purity tests? mcar 11 hrs ago #131

Correct Cirsium 11 hrs ago #133

And those bashing Schumer/Jeffries aren't? mcar 11 hrs ago #134

I agree with that Cirsium 11 hrs ago #140

A. You invoked purity mcar 11 hrs ago #144

I know Cirsium 11 hrs ago #151

Thank you Cirsium! mcar 11 hrs ago #153

Thank you! Cirsium 11 hrs ago #154

Come on angrychair 17 hrs ago #32

My answer has to do with only one thing - Elections. MineralMan 16 hrs ago #35

Yes we need to vote D. We also need to inspire nonvoters to do so. we can do it 16 hrs ago #39

No one person will meet 100% of any persons requirements. 1WorldHope 16 hrs ago #52

"Plump bump" Seinan Sensei 16 hrs ago #59

The full title is plump bump on my rump😎 1WorldHope 15 hrs ago #68

And I don't think criticizing leadership on certain issues equates to wanting 100% crimycarny 10 hrs ago #160

"VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS! EVERY LAST F-ING TIME! NOTHING LESS WILL DO." I agree with that--- Jack Valentino 8 hrs ago #167

Abolish ICE we can do it 16 hrs ago #37

Yeah, that Got Us So Far in 2016 and 2024 Cha 16 hrs ago #42

These 2 are not meeting the moment, end of story dsp3000 16 hrs ago #45

I see. And I should be listening to you because... MineralMan 16 hrs ago #47

The Author Didn't Say You Should. It's A Declarative, Not An Imperative. ColoringFool 13 hrs ago #106

You made a post. The poster replied. How is their action more deserving of a snide dismissal than yours is? Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #135

Not even 95%! hay rick 16 hrs ago #48

Just so. MineralMan 16 hrs ago #49

Exactly. betsuni 15 hrs ago #67

This message was self-deleted by its author hadEnuf 16 hrs ago #51

The only way to avoid disappointment is to lack principles. Renew Deal 16 hrs ago #53

Politicians doing politics, governing. No! True saviors MAKE evil disappear with magic FIGHTING to MEET THE MOMENT. betsuni 16 hrs ago #55

Some of the posts on here are damn nasty. MorbidButterflyTat 6 hrs ago #175

What I want to see. . . . BigDemVoter 16 hrs ago #57

The Trick Is to Get That Majority in Congress. MineralMan 15 hrs ago #69

THANK YOU! MorbidButterflyTat 16 hrs ago #58

Most of us care about standing up to fascism iemanja 16 hrs ago #60

Um. If 24 Republicans voted against a bill that only 7 Democrats voted for, there is no way it passed. Wiz Imp 15 hrs ago #73

You're right iemanja 13 hrs ago #99

Yeah. Don't vote. That'll show them. CountMyVote4Reality 16 hrs ago #61

Who is saying don't vote? we can do it 9 hrs ago #165

Vote in the Democratic primaries and vote for Progressive Democratic candidates! Clouds Passing 16 hrs ago #62

Please point to ANYONE saying they won't vote aocommunalpunch 15 hrs ago #65

Anyone saying they won't vote is not here on DU. MineralMan 15 hrs ago #70

Insisting on political purity is what defeats Democratic candidates . love_katz 15 hrs ago #72

This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush 15 hrs ago #74

Recommended. H2O Man 15 hrs ago #75

Agree completely. cksmithy 15 hrs ago #81

Elections have consequences. love_katz 15 hrs ago #82

. Zelda_Orchid 15 hrs ago #83

I don't berate some for being upset, especially the current situation with ICE. mdbl 15 hrs ago #85

We're the minority party. Where's the advantage? QueerDuck 14 hrs ago #95

Did you miss the part where the Senate can't pass the ICE portion without Democrats? mdbl 13 hrs ago #113

Everyone has reasons for supporting or not supporting the politicians that are elected to represent them. Nanjeanne 15 hrs ago #86

This is an awesome post. Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #137

Thanks. It's just how I feel. Nanjeanne 10 hrs ago #159

here's my deal quakerboy 15 hrs ago #87

It's more about people being tired of those who think performative resistance Rob H. 15 hrs ago #88

I am reminded of a line in Amiri Baraka's poem... NNadir 15 hrs ago #89

Yes! You speak for me! They should just IGNORE that we're the MINORITY party... QueerDuck 14 hrs ago #92

I think that may be the biggest straw man I've seen all week. Iggo 14 hrs ago #96

Well, ya know, shit's not going to stir itself. Someone's gotta do it. Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #138

I agree. BannonsLiver 13 hrs ago #102

How Is Agreeing To Masks Making "No Masks" "Possible To.... ColoringFool 13 hrs ago #105

Bruce Springsteen - STREETS OF MINNEAPOLIS Emile 13 hrs ago #108

Reality is sometimes hard to accept Progressive dog 13 hrs ago #109

I Would Like A Positive Example Of When Compromise With Republicans Has Helped Achieve... ColoringFool 13 hrs ago #110

A straw man. Nice. themaguffin 13 hrs ago #114

As others have correctly pointed out, this is a straw man fallacy. De-rec. nt Celerity 12 hrs ago #116

How so? It seems we'll reasoned and right on target. QueerDuck 11 hrs ago #121

this part: Celerity 10 hrs ago #156

This message was self-deleted by its author QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #157

It's a truthful parody of the ridiculous complains and... QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #158

But is it a strawman? MorbidButterflyTat 6 hrs ago #176

It's neither. Only those who felt insecure or threatened when forced to look in the mirror... QueerDuck 39 min ago #181

Waiting for permission from the future Cirsium 11 hrs ago #120

Why aren't they impeaching Trump RIGHT NOW!!11 mcar 11 hrs ago #122

Apparently they are lazy and too old... QueerDuck 11 hrs ago #143

Spineless, Turd Wayers mcar 11 hrs ago #146

OMG! 🤣😂🤣😂😜 QueerDuck 26 min ago #182

I don't agree with Schumer and Jeffries 100% of the time SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #125

RESCIND bdamomma 11 hrs ago #127

🪄🧙‍♂️🔮🧚‍♀️ It's so easy. Just do it. QueerDuck 11 hrs ago #147

I understand that the Democratic leadership markodochartaigh 11 hrs ago #150

I am regularly disappointed in both of those guys. MontanaMama 11 hrs ago #155

I'm still at a loss who this is directed at as obviously almost all of us vote Democrat Ilikepurple 7 hrs ago #169

Why post a divisive and insulting OP? PufPuf23 5 hrs ago #179

Yes, you're right. They should keep doing exactly what they're doing. Orrex 2 min ago #183